Dazeruk:
Highway Code states 600 yardsI was informed of this from my trainer for my c+e last week
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Care to find and post up the relevant paragraph?
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Sorry I missed your earlier question.
The point I was making, which I suspect you would have grasped if you had read the post thoroughly, is that the employers have a duty of care to ensure that routes do not include 7.5 ton limits.
If you are happy to spend additional hours driving that you shouldn’t need to then that is your choice.
If you consider that I am being selfish by intentionally contravening a 7.5 limit then I respect your right to hold that view. …
Do I think you have never broken a 7.5 limit…No I don’t.
Do I think you don’t read carefully and think about posts before responding …yes I do.
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Listen fella I completely grasped your point and although you have still not answered my original question I will tell you what I think.
You say employers have a duty of care not to include these limits. Possibly true I have not checked.
Now to me, YOU are the one driving the truck which is not allowed in these weight limits so YOU should take responsibility as a professional driver to avoid them where ever possible.
Your poor excuse is like a lot of things these days. Let’s put the blame on someone else although I am the one in the wrong.
I suggest if you do not already know that you find out how events can go totally pear shaped because of drivers using these roads when not allowed
Good Night.
PATHETIC REALLY.
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I presume you haven’t done much multi dropping on rural routes so the following will probably be lost on you…
7.5 ton limits are ‘policed’ not by the police but by Trading Standards the reason being that the legislation and statutes are so weak that they are virtually unenforceable.
Trading Standards aren’t really interested because the chances of getting a judgement are very slim and the revenues from fines are virtually non existent.
Clearly you are very irritated because you are driving hundreds of miles each year to skirt around 7.5 limits and wasting your own time…your choice.
Despite your protestations you obviously didn’t read the posts correctly…Sensible employers will pick up the bill where a driver breaks the weight limit and that was the point I was trying to make.
If you were to give it some thought you would paid heed to the words Except For Access…how many statutes have such a caveat ?
Hope this helps.
If I “need access” to the other side and im staring down the barrel of a 10 mile diversion when im on my way to the yard where ill be finished then “except for access” is vague enough to cover me in my book…
The-Snowman:
If I “need access” to the other side and im staring down the barrel of a 10 mile diversion when im on my way to the yard where ill be finished then “except for access” is vague enough to cover me in my book…
Me too!
Me also tbh, so maybe I aint '‘A Professional’ either. 
Come to think of it maybe I’m more of a ‘realist professional’ .
Or you could call it a ‘professional foul’ in a football analogy.
Oh dear heisenberrg you really like to repeat yourself over and over. I have read everything properly believe me but I am still waiting for the answer to my question?
Strange how you have completely omitted that all along.
It’s entirely up to you whether you use them all the time but like anything else one day it will go wrong and I hope nobody else suffers from your selfishness as has happened plenty in the past if you care to do a little research on the subject and then the police will be involved and you will be prosecuted and I will not feel sorry for you in the slightest.
Subject closed due to bad attitude.
Been doing farms recently and as a fair few are in restricted areas I just trundle through.
only once a bobby looked at me funny so I slowed down (I knew where I was going) leant out the window and just asked if he knew the farm, he was that helpful he shouted at a car that beeped me 
play the game, smile and they smile back 
Oh and why is it the Midlands B roads are festooned with weight limits for no apparent reason… Just nimbyism 
Aren’t tippers exempt of weight restrictions
Drift:
Been doing farms recently and as a fair few are in restricted areas I just trundle through.
only once a bobby looked at me funny so I slowed down (I knew where I was going) leant out the window and just asked if he knew the farm, he was that helpful he shouted at a car that beeped me
play the game, smile and they smile back
Oh and why is it the Midlands B roads are festooned with weight limits for no apparent reason… Just nimbyism
The thing is Drift you are allowed to trundle through where as others that use these routes because it is the quickest way are not.
The big problem with a lot of drivers is they think they are above the law and by breaking these laws they think they can do no harm.
I think if you care to check these roads in the Midlands have limits for a very good reason.
They cannot just erect these signs wherever they want as you seem to make out.
Hank Hill:
Aren’t tippers exempt of weight restrictions
Above the law like many others!
The weight restrictions are in place for many reasons, they do not erect them for no reason. Some roads simply cannot accommodate vehicles of a particular size and weight, the subsoil of the roads were not designed for heavy traffic and to be used by regular heavy traffic traveling along them as it will ultimately damage them. Buildings are another reason for the weight restriction, there are environmental issues as well as damage to the road surface and sub structures, these sub structures can be gas mains and electric main supply cables buried closer to the surface than on other roads. Farm deliveries and other deliveries are ok for access to ignore the rule. They will be able to take light usage of heavy goods for these reasons which will not be so frequent. If drivers just ignore the signs and simply drive through for ease of cutting out a few miles then there will be issues caused which is why they put the weight restriction in place in the first place. It is a case of drivers not bothered about these issues as it is not their problem, my truck will fit down the road so I will go down it regardless. A very selfish move and is there no wonder that these people who live on these roads get sick of it. It will ultimately be these villagers that have to put up with the damage caused by these careless drivers.
Dr Damon:
They cannot just erect these signs wherever they want as you seem to make out.
Have you never been to Somerset and Dorset area then?
There are quite a few wt limits roads around there, that are ok in real terms for trucks, unless I’m getting way mixed up here even certain stretches of A roads) but shut off by the lobbying ‘thundering juggernaut’ type nimbys…Musn’t annoy or disturb the idle rich upper classes you know. 
Dr Damon:
Hank Hill:
Aren’t tippers exempt of weight restrictionsAbove the law like many others!
I (and many others!) always went through Derby instead of going all around the blooming ring road. From Markeaton Island straight down Ashbourne road and out onto the A52 and away towards Nottingham and the M1 in a few minutes instead of queuing on the ring road, plus it was a few miles shorter. One of our hauliers reckoned if he managed a dozen trips through and only got caught once the fine was still less than the cost of fuel used going around! Then again we did a lot of work in Derby so needed access anyway…
Pete.
UKtramp:
The weight restrictions are in place for many reasons, they do not erect them for no reason. Some roads simply cannot accommodate vehicles of a particular size and weight, the subsoil of the roads were not designed for heavy traffic and to be used by regular heavy traffic traveling along them as it will ultimately damage them. Buildings are another reason for the weight restriction, there are environmental issues as well as damage to the road surface and sub structures, these sub structures can be gas mains and electric main supply cables buried closer to the surface than on other roads. Farm deliveries and other deliveries are ok for access to ignore the rule. They will be able to take light usage of heavy goods for these reasons which will not be so frequent. If drivers just ignore the signs and simply drive through for ease of cutting out a few miles then there will be issues caused which is why they put the weight restriction in place in the first place. It is a case of drivers not bothered about these issues as it is not their problem, my truck will fit down the road so I will go down it regardless. A very selfish move and is there no wonder that these people who live on these roads get sick of it. It will ultimately be these villagers that have to put up with the damage caused by these careless drivers.
As usual UKtramp you are on the ball and do not seem to be one of the many selfish brigade who disregard any rules or laws for their own benefit(or if you do you keep your mouth shut like any wise person would.) and then wonder why most of the human race hates lorry drivers.
Unfortunately as usual we all get tarred with the same brush because some drivers do exactly what they want especially if they think they will not get caught.
For this reason and many more we will all soon be controlled by computers and robots because humans just never ever learn. Sad state of affairs really.
Dr Damon:
For this reason and many more we will all soon be controlled by computers and robots because humans just never ever learn. Sad state of affairs really.
Not to be pedantic or anything but who do you think tells these computers and robots what to do in the first place?
Dr Damon:
Unfortunately as usual we all get tarred with the same brush because some drivers do exactly what they want especially if they think they will not get caught.
So what’s your view on general rule bending then Dr D, with no third party detriment of course?
Or are you zero tolerance kind of guy when it comes to any rules or regulations being bent.
Me? I prefer an initiative based approach on the particular individual rule’s merits, and ask myself …What’s the worst that can happen here if I don’t conform, and how much do I stand to gain or in some cases lose (as long as nobody else suffers)
I aint talking specifically wt limits here btw either, just things in general.
I would love to hear the views of a guy like yourself who comes across as a ‘never do anything wrong’ type paragon of virtue, especially with your opinionated negative views of us drivers.
Dr Damon:
Oh dear heisenberrg you really like to repeat yourself over and over. I have read everything properly believe me but I am still waiting for the answer to my question?
Strange how you have completely omitted that all along.
It’s entirely up to you whether you use them all the time but like anything else one day it will go wrong and I hope nobody else suffers from your selfishness as has happened plenty in the past if you care to do a little research on the subject and then the police will be involved and you will be prosecuted and I will not feel sorry for you in the slightest.Subject closed due to bad attitude.
If you paid the slightest bit of attention you will notice that drivers do not get prosecuted for breaking a 7.5 limit.
UKtramp:
The weight restrictions are in place for many reasons, they do not erect them for no reason. Some roads simply cannot accommodate vehicles of a particular size and weight, the subsoil of the roads were not designed for heavy traffic and to be used by regular heavy traffic traveling along them as it will ultimately damage them. Buildings are another reason for the weight restriction, there are environmental issues as well as damage to the road surface and sub structures, these sub structures can be gas mains and electric main supply cables buried closer to the surface than on other roads. Farm deliveries and other deliveries are ok for access to ignore the rule. They will be able to take light usage of heavy goods for these reasons which will not be so frequent. If drivers just ignore the signs and simply drive through for ease of cutting out a few miles then there will be issues caused which is why they put the weight restriction in place in the first place. It is a case of drivers not bothered about these issues as it is not their problem, my truck will fit down the road so I will go down it regardless. A very selfish move and is there no wonder that these people who live on these roads get sick of it. It will ultimately be these villagers that have to put up with the damage caused by these careless drivers.
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Heisenberrg:
Dr Damon:
Oh dear heisenberrg you really like to repeat yourself over and over. I have read everything properly believe me but I am still waiting for the answer to my question?
Strange how you have completely omitted that all along.
It’s entirely up to you whether you use them all the time but like anything else one day it will go wrong and I hope nobody else suffers from your selfishness as has happened plenty in the past if you care to do a little research on the subject and then the police will be involved and you will be prosecuted and I will not feel sorry for you in the slightest.Subject closed due to bad attitude.
If you paid the slightest bit of attention you will notice that drivers do not get prosecuted for breaking a 7.5 limit.
Not quite right.