Raising the speed limit as some have noted is of little benefit to the hourly paid employee. This could have the effect of a 20% loss in pay. Turkey`s?
There will still be plenty of the “40, it’s the law” brigade ploughing on at 40…mainly because they won’t have a clue that the law has changed! Does anyone here think there will be a (expensive don’t forget) change to the road signs?
Born Idle:
There will still be plenty of the “40, it’s the law” brigade ploughing on at 40…mainly because they won’t have a clue that the law has changed! Does anyone here think there will be a (expensive don’t forget) change to the road signs?
Which signs will need changing?
Contraflow:
Born Idle:
There will still be plenty of the “40, it’s the law” brigade ploughing on at 40…mainly because they won’t have a clue that the law has changed! Does anyone here think there will be a (expensive don’t forget) change to the road signs?Which signs will need changing?
All I can think of is cost of replacing the stickers on the back of Tesco trailers…
Oh and a few signs in Scotland saying 7.5t 40mph
I get paid by the Hour
Immigrant:
I get paid by the Hour
That’s great. Thanks for coming.
Contraflow:
Immigrant:
I get paid by the HourThat’s great. Thanks for coming.
Contraflow:
Born Idle:
There will still be plenty of the “40, it’s the law” brigade ploughing on at 40…mainly because they won’t have a clue that the law has changed! Does anyone here think there will be a (expensive don’t forget) change to the road signs?Which signs will need changing?
■■■■ those pesky NSL signs. Maybe they’ll slant them the opposite direction so we know the law has come into force.
It’s very unlikely that raising the speed limit will lead to a huge drop in pay; single carriageway roads are often windy and have roundabouts, traffic lights and so on. On a lot of NSL roads I don’t do as much as 40mph anyway and certainly couldn’t do more, even if the limit were raised. Travel times would only be reduced drastically on a few stretches of open road, like the Uckfield by-pass in Surrey and parts of the A5. I don’t see many trucks doing 50mph round bends or roundabouts; right now they are more likely to do, say, 45mph on the straights.
I use the A1 quite a lot - I travel from near Rotherham to London, and use that whenever there is any sign of trouble on the M1 (which is quite often). There are only two speed cameras on the whole stretch from the Worksop junction to the Brampton Hut Interchange (one just south of Worksop, in the roadworks area, and one south of Grantham), and I’ve not seen any mobile speed cameras either, and rarely a DVSA van despite it being a trunk road. The majority of trucks are doing above 50mph. Perhaps the situation varies across the country and off trunk roads, but I’ve not seen particularly zealous enforcement of the 40mph and 50mph limits. I agree that increasing the speed limit on these roads would help road safety, although I believe it ought to be reduced to 60mph for cars on two-lane dual carriageways as well (because trucks often have to pull out when vehicles enter from tight slip roads, such as at the main Newark junction, causing the cars to have to slow down much quicker).
I favour simplified speed limits: 50mph for everyone on single carriageways; 60mph for everyone on two-lane dual carriageways or motorways; 60mph for large vehicles and 70mph for cars and vans where there’s three lanes. Motorway status shouldn’t make the difference, because some three-lane dual carriageways are already motorways in all but name.
What about when we didn’t have limiters? 40, 50, and 60 limits? I was on more money then! Dual carriage ways would have to be upped and dare I say it motorways too! Now as the wouldn’t increase it in fives as in " 55 " for a dual, take that as 60! Now then, motorways " 70? " 70 is safe on a motorway, but CARS HAVE A 70 limit imposed on them FROM 1967 by the way so come on who’s in favour? Hands up for a free for all?
Remember the national express coaches? 52 passengers, outside lane 85 mph plus!
7.5 tonners 80 mph plus outside lane too
Sprinter vans a hundred plus!
Let’s get the limiters off, and get this country moving and productivity UPTO levels so we can earn what we were earning 20 years ago " as every driver on here was earning more then, than I am now! " and don’t forget we had perks in the the eighties too! More £££££££££££££££££s for the driver! Hands up? OR FOR THE DO GOODERS RIGHT FOOT UP!!! 
For those who are crying over losing hours, here’s some ideas;
Undo/do up curtains more slowly.
Strap loads slowly.
Walk to goods in slowly.
Pumptruck pallets more slowly.
Take a full 15 minutes for pre start checks.
Use more sheets of paper to wipe your arse*
*Although many people who are concerned probably require assistance with this task.
Own Account Driver:
nick2008:
yes its 2 years old but lets hope we don’t see more of this thenIs that just a randomly selected bad lorry smash or did it have some direct relevance to speed as it looks like a stationary or near stationary vehicle in a layby was hit on a DC?
Yep just random
! motor hit the other in a layby and the other shot up the arse of the other… ■■■■ poor driving then and it aint any beter now
If everybody sits at 50 on a limit/not target way fair play, but it sure as hell won’t happen, the crack on crew will be on the limiter all day, is that going to be a safer situation than now?
I think it should have been as it was a few years ago, ie40 with a mutual unwritten “agreement” between Police and drivers that 45 to 50 would be ok, but the advent of cameras as opposed to actual Policing shot that right up the arse.
I remember when it was 40limit on a d/cway, and everybody sat at 50/55ish, it got increased to 60 and everybody (pre limiter days) sat at 65/70+, human nature to push boundaries, so I aint sure that I agree with the increase.
Has anyone got access to one of the old route planners where you can set maximum speeds for different types of road?
I ask because my regular trip is approx 150 miles with various types of road from dual carriageway, motorway, single carriageway and 30 mph towns.
Just taking a very broad view 150 miles at 50 mph = 3 hours, 150 miles at 40mph = 3.75 hours and at 30 mph = 5 hours.
Currently it takes between 3:15 and 3:45 dependent on traffic.
I would like to compare the theoretical times for route with current speed limits and the proposed increases.
I suspect there won’t be much difference.
I reckon you’re right Dave. Limits weren’t enforced as much when I was driving in England, but most of us drove sensibly. I could hit around 70 on a motorway if I was in a Leyland, (52 in a gardner 180 powered Foden 
) but on other roads or weather conditions I drove to suit.
Nowadays though, much more traffic about, everyone seems to be in a rush and some right amateurs behind the wheel.
If you’re on a 50 limit road next year and it’s not safe to be doing 50, you’ll still be holding cars up, so no, I’m with Dave19544, it probably won’t make much difference although it would be nice for decent drivers to be able to do 70 again on M/ways.
George@ASDA driver:
This has the potential to lose me £1500-2000 a year
But the potential for the rest of us to get home more !
It’s a very short sighted move IMO. They say they want to reduce dangerous overtakes. This is of course, assuming that Average Joe Audi is going to say to himself “You know what, these clowns doing 40 used to really ■■■■ me off but now they’re doing 50 I’m happy to sit behind them doing 10mph slower than what I should be”.
You must be pretty naive to think that’s gonna happen. All this will do is make a dangerous overtake even more dangerous. Overtaking a 50mph truck is harder than one doing 40 right ?.
And then of course there’ll be the 10%+2mph limiter heroes who see this as a green light to sit on the limiter without fear of prosecution. And even then that will still be too slow for BMW Bill.
chester1:
George@ASDA driver:
This has the potential to lose me £1500-2000 a yearBut the potential for the rest of us to get home more !
^this
jonesy1985:
‘… drive at 50mph on a single carriageway (from next year)…’
And maybe also join in with exiting a roundabout with a right indicator?
Christmas!*
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Terry T:
‘… And then of course there’ll be the 10%+2mph limiter heroes who see this as a green light to sit on the limiter without fear of prosecution…’
I see the 10% + 2 mph reality as one of very few advantages that - when properly and judiciously assessed & applied, works for me in today’s Liberal Society of which I’m otherwise openly sceptical of …and I aint no hero, believe me 