Muckspreader:
Flippin heck M1cks it was only my personal opinion, I was thinking of the traffic office expecting 50 + and expecting drivers to be there quicker there’s enough pressure already.
I personally like the 40mph speed limit.
Sorry but the past couple of days with this issue have irritated me. Listening to LBC last night and it was a bunch of idiots who don’t have a clue what they were talking about. Clive Bull presenting was just as clueless and the arguments from the cycling lobbies and BRAKE are lame at very best.
The only person who made any sense was the ex traffic cop at the very end who said the majority of drivers he’d encountered in his career were professional and he trusts our judgement as professional drivers to drive at a safe speed for the roads and conditions.
Transport minister, well done - act in haste repent at leisure ? - let them all go faster and then in 2 years pay somebody 50k to do a survey as to how many extra deaths there were in the first year after you introduced the new raised speed limit. I’ve got used to 40 mph and in some cases you’re lucky if you can do 40 mph with todays traffic so I’ll just carry on as normal no matter what they do or say and as long as I get home to my family safe and sound and not in a wooden box that’s all that matters to me.
john i:
Transport minister, well done - act in haste repent at leisure ? - let them all go faster and then in 2 years pay somebody 50k to do a survey as to how many extra deaths there were in the first year after you introduced the new raised speed limit. I’ve got used to 40 mph and in some cases you’re lucky if you can do 40 mph with todays traffic so I’ll just carry on as normal no matter what they do or say and as long as I get home to my family safe and sound and not in a wooden box that’s all that matters to me.
I have to tip my hat to all the keyboard consultants and road transport experts that post on this site, a basic grasp of the economics will tell you without doubt your pay will go down.
You will be able to travel further in your daily driving period and your boss will be able to tender for work outside your current range in competition with other hauliers you are hourly paid the gaffer has tendered at the bare minimum of operating profit and also may have agreed a fixed term contract.
This fixed term could be as much as 3 years with very little negotiation for a rate increase, so the £450 a week for max hours and 4 nights out (which is a pittance by the way) will be yours for the foreseeable future.
Have you ever noticed how the bell ends who tear around all day the spend the time they have saved by being bell ends talking crap and or ■■■ kissing the gaffer when the steady guy who everyone takes the pee out of rolls into the yard nice and steady fuels up Hans his paperwork in and goes home before club plant pot the gaffer knows his top man because he hardly ever has to speak to him.
So is this an open admission by the government that “safety” cameras are indeed just for revenue generation and nothing at all to do with safety, as has been claimed by many?
I can’t see how it can continue to be unsafe for a LGV to travel at 50mph on a single carriageway for the rest of this year but suddenly in 2015 it will be completely safe as if by magic.
Should previous prosecutions (or are they simply invoices in the case of FPN?) by these safety partnerships be refunded? How far back should these refunds go? Has it really been safe all the time?
I do believe that the raising of speed limits is a safety related issue. Since getting my licence in the 90’s I have been of the opinion that the 40mph limit was dangerous and that if all truck drivers were to obey this limit all the time it would lead to more serious accidents and more fatalities when other road users took ridiculous risks when overtaking.
As we all know, in recent years this 40 limit has been enforced far more rigorously and I believe this has led to more truck drivers reaching the conclusion that there is no option other to obey the limit. If I’m correct then this will have led to many more serious accidents as more car drivers take far greater risks to get past an increasing number of slow moving lorries.
So other questions I would like to ask of the safety partnerships are:
Is there any statistical evidence to show an increase in fatalities involving lorries being overtaken since the 40 limit was enforced by safety cameras. And, if so.
How many extra lives have been lost due to the increased enforcement of the 40 limit? lets go for, since 2004 for sake of argument.
mike68:
I have to tip my hat to all the keyboard consultants and road transport experts that post on this site, a basic grasp of the economics will tell you without doubt your pay will go down.
You will be able to travel further in your daily driving period and your boss will be able to tender for work outside your current range in competition with other hauliers you are hourly paid the gaffer has tendered at the bare minimum of operating profit and also may have agreed a fixed term contract.
This fixed term could be as much as 3 years with very little negotiation for a rate increase, so the £450 a week for max hours and 4 nights out (which is a pittance by the way) will be yours for the foreseeable future.
Have you ever noticed how the bell ends who tear around all day the spend the time they have saved by being bell ends talking crap and or ■■■ kissing the gaffer when the steady guy who everyone takes the pee out of rolls into the yard nice and steady fuels up Hans his paperwork in and goes home before club plant pot the gaffer knows his top man because he hardly ever has to speak to him.
At last, someone who can actually see it for what it is. There’s one of the normal ‘driver in job title only’ merchants on the other thread who reckons he’ll get finished an hour earlier when the 50mph thing comes in. It genuinely does not seem to register that he might be planned to do more. Unbelievable really.
Great news. Didn’t think this would ever come about and was surprised to hear it announced almost as a throw-away one-liner on the Steve Wright show yesterday. I immediately wondered if the D/C limit would be upped - seems likely. I’m sure this will cause a decrease in crashes caused by impatient car drivers but wonder about the likelihood of an increase in nasty lorry accidents. Won’t greatly affect me though I know there will be pressure to maintain a faster speed from other road users, HGV-ers in particular (I doubt the average driver knows or cares there is a lower limit for HGVs) , even though the circumstances might dictate a lower speed. Think it will be a bonus to be able to legally maintain a more “reasonable” speed on a good single carriageway though.
Muckspreader:
Flippin heck M1cks it was only my personal opinion, I was thinking of the traffic office expecting 50 + and expecting drivers to be there quicker there’s enough pressure already.
I personally like the 40mph speed limit.
I agree with previous comments that over-zealous enforcing of speed limits and a continuing assertion that speed causes accidents, despite no real evidence to support it, is the cause of it. I think it certainly was previously the case that a blind-eye was turned to trucks and the 40mph.
It’s probably got to the point too where most of the public have got stuck behind a trolley dolly doing 40mph a few too many times and are sick of it.
Anyone doing 40mph on a wide clear stretch of fast A-road will trot out some BS along the lines of ‘I like to take safety seriously’ when in reality they like to hang the job out and don’t care they’re encouraging mum with the kids into a poorly judged overtake that could end with a head on collision.
Own Account Driver:
Anyone doing 40mph on a wide clear stretch of fast A-road will trot out some BS along the lines of ‘I like to take safety seriously’ when in reality they like to hang the job out and don’t care they’re encouraging mum with the kids into a poorly judged overtake that could end with a head on collision.
Similarly those who are tracked or have points on their licence will, though they may have had in the past, have no valid excuse for such dilly-dallying. However, the new set-up will mean there is no excuse for inappropriate speeds and of course the apparently increasing profusion of lower-than-50MPH limits means that things won’t change much apart from on the open (single carriageway) road.
Is that just a randomly selected bad lorry smash or did it have some direct relevance to speed as it looks like a stationary or near stationary vehicle in a layby was hit on a DC?
Good thing about this is alot of folk are gonna get points taken off their licence and money back.
How can 41+mph be dangerous one day but safe the next day■■?
Speed kil… makes ££££
mike68:
I have to tip my hat to all the keyboard consultants and road transport experts that post on this site, a basic grasp of the economics will tell you without doubt your pay will go down.
You will be able to travel further in your daily driving period and your boss will be able to tender for work outside your current range in competition with other hauliers you are hourly paid the gaffer has tendered at the bare minimum of operating profit and also may have agreed a fixed term contract.
This fixed term could be as much as 3 years with very little negotiation for a rate increase, so the £450 a week for max hours and 4 nights out (which is a pittance by the way) will be yours for the foreseeable future.
Thank Christ somebody else has come up with this, I thought it was just me.
The 4 nights out could also be reduced as you will return to base from your run sooner, and if it is anything like most, be told to carry on in the morning instead of when you only got to an hour from base and parked up.
And look out for the even tighter schedules set from doing the job at 40 to doing it at 50.
A lot of typical dumbass drivers are like turkeys wishing for Christmas, well we have it now so crack on lads, and hope our govners eventually share their increased profits that we will gain for them… don’t hold your ■■■■■■ breath
