50mph on single carriageway

Apparently the speed limit for cars was going to be raised to 80 on the motorway as well…

Guaranteed U-turn for this nearer the time IMO

What absolute bile…

Pronounced speed differences between traffic can pose a risk, but the way to address this is by preventing car drivers going too fast, not speeding trucks up

brake.org.uk/news/1250-hgvspeedlimit-jul14

Just what planet are these idiots living on??

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

B…

Bungle666:
What absolute bile…

Pronounced speed differences between traffic can pose a risk, but the way to address this is by preventing car drivers going too fast, not speeding trucks up

brake.org.uk/news/1250-hgvspeedlimit-jul14

Just what planet are these idiots living on??

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

B…

Who’s stupid enough to donate to this charity? This pointless organisation seems to thrive on victims’ relatives who can’t accept that (in many cases) their relative drove badly and killed themselves, and they want someone else to blame but the deceased.

Happy Keith:

Terry T:
‘… And then of course there’ll be the 10%+2mph limiter heroes who see this as a green light to sit on the limiter without fear of prosecution…’

I see the 10% + 2 mph reality as one of very few advantages that - when properly and judiciously assessed & applied, works for me in today’s Liberal Society of which I’m otherwise openly sceptical of …and I aint no hero, believe me :wink:

I wouldn’t be so sure about 10%+2 being a ‘reality’. Do 55 in a 50 zone past a SCAMERA van or a copper on a bad day holding a gun and i’m pretty sure you’d get a letter in the post. Technically, a copper could do you for just 1mph over - it’s ultimately up to them to exercise discretion. 10%+2 is a mere guideline with no basis in law.

If this 50mph limit ever comes in, I bet initially the vans will be out in force and a few drivers will be upset that the 10%+2 ‘rule’ wasn’t applied.

rob22888:
‘… I wouldn’t be so sure about 10%+2 being a ‘reality’ … Do 55 in a 50 … and i’m pretty sure you’d get a letter in the post…’

I’m in a restricted & gutless pram, mate: I only ever dream of 55.

Also, if I could arrange the shiny door badges from ‘Euro 5’ to ‘Embarro 5’ I would

rob22888:
‘… basis in law…’

The nation has gone all liberal this last 15+ years: Haven’t you noticed it’s a free-for-all for most other Highway users :exclamation:

Conspiracy Theory Alert:

:bulb: Heard the one about this “50 mph” lark for lorries being a sweetener granted to Cameron by Merkel in a transparent attempt to help him beat off the UKIP and woo back chuffed-off LGV DCPC victims in time for the May 2015, mainly pro-EU, tribal election-fest?

Who’s gonna suggest that isn’t credible - it’s no less nuts than saying the DCPC is fit for purpose :exclamation:

Cotswoldcrunch:
Who’s stupid enough to donate to this charity? This pointless organisation seems to thrive on victims’ relatives who can’t accept that (in many cases) their relative drove badly and killed themselves, and they want someone else to blame but the deceased.

Actually it was the founders mother who was killed by a recklessly driven speeding artic with poor brakes etc local to where I live (near Chatsworth Park) and operated by a local firm, she herself survived and has (understandably I suppose?) been campaigning against speeding trucks since. However it does seem to go to extremes in the campaign, the accident happened many years ago now when the lass was a child and times change. Obviously she is on a lifetime Crusade!
Part of the story below, courtesy of CM archive.

Defective brakes were also at the heart of the Bakewell inquiry. Albu was considering the case of local operator HG Pheasey, four months after it admitted charges relating to the death of university lecturer Susan Williams–the company was also seeking to increase the number of vehicles and trailers authorised on its licence.
Williams died at Heathey Lee, Baslow, when the driver of a dry cement tanker operated by HG Pheasey lost control of his vehicle after its brakes failed. Other defective parts and administrative irregularities were later found.
Read more at archive.commercialmotor.com/arti … eQo1Pic.99
Pete.

I doubt she’ll be happy until the red flag comes back though Pete.

It’s arguably a pedantic point (moi?), but don’t these two show a contradiction?

windrush:
‘…the accident …’ and ‘… a recklessly driven speeding artic with poor brakes …’

Aren’t speeding vehicles with defective brakes of ancient vintage known to be crap at stopping?

It aint a pop at you, Pete, but a generic point that ‘blame culture’ seems to thrive on

Likewise, it aint an ‘…accident…’: It’s a driver behaving illegally coupled with vehicle neglect.

Besides, we’re now having EU ‘training’ [snork, yak-yak-yak] to align us into society’s contemporary demand for us not to hold up tin-sheathed commuters by letting us soon go warp-speed on SC’s by chucking Cameron this too late lifebelt in a futile endeavour vs. Le Mighty Grande Farage :wink:

I meant to say the signs in Scotland mainly ( :blush: ) but if they vote “yes” things might not change there the way they are going to in England!

Agree with you Keith, that wont change things in her mind though. The driver was known for being reckless by other drivers who had ridden with him, a mate of mine included. I suppose the case that all accidents are avoidable if everybody does everything by the letter of the law can be used, but humans are fallible alas.

Regarding raising the speed limit, I suppose it will depend on the company whether drivers wages will be affected? At Tilcon we were paid on 25 miles to the hour, that was later raised to 28 and when I finished it was 30 miles to the hour but the speed limit hadn’t changed at all in that time. It was just a way of restricting wages and I guess that SOME firms might see this as a way of doing just that.

Pete.

I hope they use some sense with this and stick to 40 in certain places. Some single carriageways, the A361 from the M5 into Barnstaple for instance, are really high quality and 50mph wouldn’t be such a problem.

Other roads however are already dangerous enough at 40 and increasing to 50 is only going to make it more dangerous.

Terry T:
‘… roads however are already dangerous enough at 40 and increasing to 50 is only going to make it more dangerous…’

That’s agreed, Terry :neutral_face:

But hey, cheer-up - alongside, eg, seeing foglights tolerated being on 100% of all journeys in perfect daylight made by some folk, etc, it’s an added bonus to enjoy this liberal but morally skint society :wink: