25000 to 33000 truck drivers needed in Canada

robinhood_1984:

Carryfast:
No luckily for me I haven’t needed one for years.But I think my experiences during my younger years concerning creatain issues related to the job such as the one of the opportunities for working overseas are relevant.

Then whats stopping you having a 6 month holiday over here in Canada? Like I said, if you are willing to come here I’m sure I can sort you a job out within a matter of days with a local company who are always, and I mean always, looking for “meat in the seat” as they refer to it.

Thanks for the offer but it was health issues that put me out over 10 years ago together now with some family committments which mean that driving trucks for a living isn’t really likely to be an option now.

However I think that many British drivers have been stitched up over the years during their younger years when it mattered/matters.Such as in the case of not having access to every opportinity that should be open to them and that applies in all respects from the type of ‘experience’ bs that applies to drivers at every level of career progression here.To the type of bs which has been ( and still is to an extent ) applied to prospective British ex pats in place like Oz and Canada.Although as I’ve said it seems ( a lot ) easier now in that regard than it was when it mattered to me over 25 years ago.

What I’m saying is that at least in this case the Canadians might find the issue of driver shortages would be improved if they open up their labour market a lot more in a way which reflects the country’s ties to Britain.Instead of making it as easy for a Russian/Chinese/Indian to get access to the Canadian labour market as a Brit or as difficult for a Brit to get access to that market as those groups if not more depending on your point of view. :bulb:

But unfortunately for me it’s all too late regardless. :frowning: :wink:

Canadians love thinking of themselves as being cosmopolitan and multicultural and they really do bend over backwards to accomodate all of that sort of thing. The fact that 9 out of 10 of them in most places have ancestors in the British Isles doesn’t really mean a lot to them these days. In essence us British drivers are what their own ancestors were, but they just see us as another group of “foreigners”. Being from England I personally dont consider Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders and white South Africans to be foreigners as their cultural base and most of the ethnic ancestory within hails from our islands, but there you go.

robinhood_1984:
Canadians love thinking of themselves as being cosmopolitan and multicultural and they really do bend over backwards to accomodate all of that sort of thing. The fact that 9 out of 10 of them in most places have ancestors in the British Isles doesn’t really mean a lot to them these days. In essence us British drivers are what their own ancestors were, but they just see us as another group of “foreigners”. Being from England I personally dont consider Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders and white South Africans to be foreigners as their cultural base and most of the ethnic ancestory within hails from our islands, but there you go.

That’s how I’ve always seen it but the ethnic English speaking world seems to be going collectively bonkers based on some guilt trip concerning what a bunch of nutters in Germany did in the 1930’s and 40’s.Amongst some other confusion concerning not being able to understand the difference between integration and multiculturalism.Added to which is those with a different agenda related to the importation of cheap labour,rather than making a civilised developed economy based on British know how, taking advantage of all that. :bulb:

Carryfast I will be forever grateful for getting to see what I’ve already seen of North America but the fact remains I’m in Nashville tonight looking round the bars it’s great but for every night like this there’s 20 in Hicksville truckstops.
I’d using the job as a means to see the world but it enough people want to do this to make the job viable to Canadians.
As others have said most Canadians see no affinity with gb.
You are coming across as some mad old fool who thinks most of the map of the world is pink. Them days are long gone and if you lived in the real world you would realise most Canadians Aussies and kiwis dont have any allegiance to Britain or the queen.
Why should they most are 3 or 4 generations in as been from that country.
Same as me my dads Irish my mums English but her patents are Irish I have no pretense I’m Irish Irish people wouldn’t accept me as Irish I’m English and if I stay in Canada 100 years il still be that but my kids wouldn’t be and there kids less so.

kr79:
Carryfast I will be forever grateful for getting to see what I’ve already seen of North America but the fact remains I’m in Nashville tonight looking round the bars it’s great but for every night like this there’s 20 in Hicksville truckstops.
I’d using the job as a means to see the world but it enough people want to do this to make the job viable to Canadians.
As others have said most Canadians see no affinity with gb.
You are coming across as some mad old fool who thinks most of the map of the world is pink. Them days are long gone and if you lived in the real world you would realise most Canadians Aussies and kiwis dont have any allegiance to Britain or the queen.
Why should they most are 3 or 4 generations in as been from that country.
Same as me my dads Irish my mums English but her patents are Irish I have no pretense I’m Irish Irish people wouldn’t accept me as Irish I’m English and if I stay in Canada 100 years il still be that but my kids wouldn’t be and there kids less so.

Firstly I don’t think that I’ve said anything which is a million miles away from anything which robinhood has ( rightly ) said and branding those of us with those views as mad old fools seems a bit insulting at best and downright opposite to the national interest of the country and nation in the sense of it’s ethnic identity both in the home country and the colonies, at worse.In other words,bearing in mind that your ideas could apply equally in the home country considering that many of it’s immigrant communities base ethnicity and the idea of nation on descent not place of birth,we’re going down the road of the native Americans but in our case it’s self inflicted. :open_mouth:

Mostly caused by those with views like your own which seem to have been the result of bs indoctrination which says that place of birth means everything not descent.Ironically it’s the Israeli nation which ( luckily for my argument and common sense ) stands in total opposition to everything which you believe in and have said there and obviously the basis of the Canadian idea of nation and national identity.IE Canada and Canadians,as a nation,are British or at least of partly/totally British descent,which is what makes them Canadian.In just the same way that Israelis are of the Jewish nation or at least of partly/totally Jewish descent which is what makes them Israelis.In which case a person of Jewish or partly Jewish descent is considered an Israeli regardless of place of birth.

In my case I’m partly Irish by descent of one Grandparent and mostly English by descent of my three other grandparents and both parents.Which makes me partly Irish but mostly English regardless of where I was actually born.Which is exactly how many countries,that base nationality on descent,not place of birth,see it.Including Israel.The fact is if it’s good enough for the Israelis,with their history,to agree that nationality isn’t based on place of birth and that ( rightly ) doesn’t make them racist,then it’s good enough for me.

As for your descendents,regardless of wether they are born there or in the home country,under the present British idea of nation god help them because they won’t thank you when they suddenly realise that their ethnic identity was thrown away.Because their own ethnic group lost the plot by believing that nation depends on place of birth while they are surrounded by others like Asians etc who’s idea of nation depends on descent.In which case Canada and possibly Britain in years to come,when the immigrant communities form local majorities,suddenly has to lower the union flag in certain places and raise something else.While your descendents suddenly become stateless.Which is what I meant by the statement that the Canadian ideas on ‘multiculturalism’ amount to a multicultural zb up just like the British ideas.All based on an agenda of the importation of cheap labour while branding anyone who disagrees as a racist mad old fool. :unamused:

As for the Ozzies maybe they’re not as stupid as the Canadians seem to be.

youtube.com/watch?feature=en … ob5BJaapDY

youtube.com/watch?v=DiX20Em3brI

Israel says it all about your views and once again Canada is not a colony!!!

kr79:
Israel says it all about your views and once again Canada is not a colony!!!

The inability to understand how Israel came into being and why and the basis on which it’s founded is what I call racist.Which just leaves the total contradiction between the ( rightful ) recognition of Israel by the ethnic British civilised world compared to the ethnic British homeland’s and it’s colonies’ domestic governments’ immigration and citizenship policies.No surprise in the case of Israel that policy was based on doing what was/is right.While in the case of our own it’s based on the double standards and hypocricy of a policy of cheap imported labour. :unamused: :imp:

The fact is,as any Israeli could tell you,every country and locality of that country,is a colony based on the ethnicity of it’s population make up while ethnicity is based on descent not place of birth.In other words Canada is as British as Britain is which is why the union flag flies there and it’s what,like Britain,made/makes Canada the place it was/is.The question is for how much longer.

As for an example of an ethnic zb up,including a civil war,that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of ethnic British Americans,caused by the importation of cheap immigrant labour,that is now becoming a majority over that ethnic British population,you only need to look south of the Canadian border.Which says everything about where Britain as a nation and it’s colonies are heading.With imported non ethnic British rule put there by the immigrant population for the immigrant population in the long term. :unamused:

I know a bit about Israel as my grandad served there in the army in 1948 and his views on Israel and Jews make hitler seem mild mannered.
Canadians don’t see themselves as British despite the union flag been in most Provence flags
We share a language but that’s about it

kr79:
I know a bit about Israel as my grandad served there in the army in 1948 and his views on Israel and Jews make hitler seem mild mannered.
Canadians don’t see themselves as British despite the union flag been in most Provence flags
We share a language but that’s about it

Your grandad obviously never went into Germany at the end of WW2 and saw the results of what real racism means like my grandad did.If he had of done his first loyalty would have been with the IDF and support of the Jewish state not the British army.By the way my dad missed being shipped out with many of his mates from Italy/Yugoslavia to ‘Palestine’ to fight with the Jewish settlers just on the luck of a demob number.Like my grandad he knew at that time exactly what had been going on with the Jews in Germany.Trust me he wouldn’t have taken your grandad’s view.Who’s calling who a racist now.

No he didn’t fight in ww2 as he was a few months to young but was always troubled by that as his brothers did and 1 served in spain too.but served 23 years in the British army perhaps I was harsh in saying he hated Jews more than hitler but from his experience there he had very little time for them.

Before you go in to some rant I think the ■■■■ treatment of Jews was one of the worst crimes in history and have no feelings either way about Jews

Santa:

Correct, there is no Union Flag in Canada’s National flag.
Of the 10 provinces and 3 territories, there are 3 provinces that have the Union Flag as part of their own flag.

embassyflag.com/canadaprovinces.htm

To go into the ‘‘Jewish’’ question is just to become immersed in political hypocrisy.Up until a hundred years ago the whole area didn’t even exist as countries with the exception of a couple.The rest are artificial political,religious and economic ‘‘lines on a map’’.Everything is based on ‘‘biblical’’ facts :question: as handed down by an unseen entity.I read the sun but don’t believe everything in it.Who has any ''rights to the area.It was palestine for 2000yrs and Isreal never existed as a country,it was Judea.Yes the jews were treated badly,but is what they now do to the Palestinians any better.And no i’m not sticking up for any particular party.I detest religion and politics and any kind of fanatisism.Just think,without religion or politics there would be no wars.

Very true the whole Middle East is a joke.
No doubt the keyboard warrior from leather head is goggleing half truths as we speak.
No doubt the Chinese and thatcher will to be blame. :smiley:

kr79:
Before you go in to some rant I think the ■■■■ treatment of Jews was one of the worst crimes in history and have no feelings either way about Jews

Not a rant at all.It’s just that your grandad obviously didn’t have any real world experience of the eventual results of so called ‘multiculturalism’ ( actually integration of different ethnic groups ) which is what kicked the whole thing off.He also obviously didn’t have any involvement in the aftermath of all that on the ground at the time.It was the results of that aftermath that led to the start of the wishes of European ( by birth ) ethnic Jews to return to their homeland by descent.

For some reason that no can explain the British government was against that idea although it was no doubt based on the wishes of the racist Arabs in Palestine who didn’t want the Jews there ( as usual ).Although no suprise the same Arabs/Muslims are quick enough to play the 'racial tolerance bs card when it’s them who want to come here to live amongst us.

Your grandad,like a lot of other British squaddies,obviously got caught up in that.However it’s obvious that his lack of experience of what those Jewish fighters were fighting for led him to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5 about the situation.Whereas a lot of those squaddies,like my dad almost being one,knew different because they’d been shipped straight from fighting in Europe,and having experienced the aftermath of that war,into having to fight with those who they’d only months before been fighting to save.

Trust me there were very few British troops in that fight who weren’t on the side of those Israelis who they were being forced against there will to fight with.Although no suprise,that your grandad, having not been involved in the end of ww2 and it’s aftermath,might not have had that view being that he obviously had no affinity with those he was fighting against.

Which might explain the difference between the views regarding that subject,which I was brought up with,concerning the issue of so called ‘multiculturalism’ and citizenship by birth v the idea of every ethnic group in it’s own place on it’s own terms and ethnicity is based on descent not on place of birth.Which is why the British government eventually had to reverse it’s policy concerning the recognition of Israel and the idea that Israeli citizenship is ( rightly ) based on Jewish descent not on an Arab’s place of birth in so called Palestine.It also explains why we’ve got a totally different view regarding the fact that Canada,Australia and New Zealand are as British,so far,as Britain is.

While it also explains why I feel that British workers should have the same rights to work in those British colonies as they have to work here.Which is the view my dad took when he heard that those Canadian idiots had turned me down for entry into Canada to work. :bulb:

Just to go ‘‘more or less’’ back on track,i always loved the Nunavut number plates with the polar bear.I thought ‘‘that is what Canada is all about’’.I spent some time up at C.F.S. Alert and was impressed how the people live.To me it’s a way of life that should not be lost,if only to show the ‘real’ Canada.The same thing applies here with the Sami people.Any ethnic culture is an integral part of a Country.

Big Jon’s dad:

Santa:

Correct, there is no Union Flag in Canada’s National flag.
Of the 10 provinces and 3 territories, there are 3 provinces that have the Union Flag as part of their own flag.

embassyflag.com/canadaprovinces.htm

So the Union,Scottish and English flags do fly in Canada.Why assuming it’s in no way British whatsoever :question: .

hutpik:
Just to go ‘‘more or less’’ back on track,i always loved the Nunavut number plates with the polar bear.I thought ‘‘that is what Canada is all about’’.I spent some time up at C.F.S. Alert and was impressed how the people live.To me it’s a way of life that should not be lost,if only to show the ‘real’ Canada.The same thing applies here with the Sami people.Any ethnic culture is an integral part of a Country.

Like having to differentiate Asian Indians from the locals you mean by calling them East Indian.While making sure to keep the Brits out to make room for them. :smiling_imp: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

hutpik:
To go into the ‘‘Jewish’’ question is just to become immersed in political hypocrisy.Up until a hundred years ago the whole area didn’t even exist as countries with the exception of a couple.The rest are artificial political,religious and economic ‘‘lines on a map’’.Everything is based on ‘‘biblical’’ facts :question: as handed down by an unseen entity.I read the sun but don’t believe everything in it.Who has any ''rights to the area.It was palestine for 2000yrs and Isreal never existed as a country,it was Judea.Yes the jews were treated badly,but is what they now do to the Palestinians any better.And no i’m not sticking up for any particular party.I detest religion and politics and any kind of fanatisism.Just think,without religion or politics there would be no wars.

So you’re saying you agree with all the lefty do gooding John Lennon bs in the song Imagine.Until suddenly you look round and there’s an Iranian supporting Asian colonist telling you that you’re now under Sharia law. :unamused: