comet:
You dont have a £10p/h job cause the boss knows you will do 79+hours a week for bog cleaners money
I probably get paid less lol but a lot of it is sitting about doing nothing so I have a better deal , like I’ve said Its not a regular occurrence and with Christmas round the corner I’m not going to say no to some overtime maybe if I had a job that paid well I wouldn’t do more than 60 but I’m not perfect and have debt to pay aswell so unfortunately I’m happy to stay at work wether people like it or not I haven’t got any kids so I’m not missing them grow up etc
Smoggie89:
But I haven’t done the job of 2 people this week as I said I do containers so alot I it is poa/breaks , if I didn’t want to work that many hours I wouldn’t simple as that but I don’t have a job that pays £10 ph so I’m happy to put in overtime to boost my wages
I’m just someone living in the real world simple as that, I take it everyone who is against me are paid £1000 a week and only do 5hours a day, if only everyone was as perfect
Haha why do people get annoyed that I have been at work that much this week ? I’m not the reason why the industry is how it is today I’m just unfortunate to have come to the industry when it is like this, of course I would like to earn 500 a week for doing 40hours but I can’t so I have to make do with what I’ve got, we all have bills to pay and all have different circumstances so I can’t afford to be sat at home watching Jeremy Kyle getting 50 a week or whatever it is the doleys get
Jack Dee has been promoting his latest stand-up tour on radio & TV this week. He says he’s doing the nationwide tour as ‘he wants to spend LESS time with his famiy’…I presumed he was being massively ironic, maybe he should become a truck driver■■? Maybe he was being genuine■■?
bazstan009:
Funny how a grafter gets a slating, now I understand why every other truck has a non UK pilot!
exactly. Bunch of whinging trolley dollies in this place.
A grafter eh?
Mugs, not grafters. Working long hours because the pay is so ■■■■ poor you have no option isn’t being a tough trucker fellas. It’s being too daft to know when you’re being shafted!
bazstan009:
Funny how a grafter gets a slating, now I understand why every other truck has a non UK pilot!
exactly. Bunch of whinging trolley dollies in this place.
A grafter eh?
Mugs, not grafters. Working long hours because the pay is so ■■■■ poor you have no option isn’t being a tough trucker fellas. It’s being too daft to know when you’re being shafted!
Not exactly a mug , yeah I might not have the best job but I couldn’t afford (Or wouldn’t want) to be out of work sitting on my arse all day , I have rent etc to pay like everyone else will so unfortunately I have took a job that was available albeit the hourly rate is terrible but what can I do ? If I could start work for another firm tomorrow with better pay then obviously I would do it but I can’t so for now I’m stuck where I am
bazstan009:
Funny how a grafter gets a slating, now I understand why every other truck has a non UK pilot!
exactly. Bunch of whinging trolley dollies in this place.
A grafter eh?
Mugs, not grafters. Working long hours because the pay is so ■■■■ poor you have no option isn’t being a tough trucker fellas. It’s being too daft to know when you’re being shafted!
Not exactly a mug , yeah I might not have the best job but I couldn’t afford (Or wouldn’t want) to be out of work sitting on my arse all day , I have rent etc to pay like everyone else will so unfortunately I have took a job that was available albeit the hourly rate is terrible but what can I do ? If I could start work for another firm tomorrow with better pay then obviously I would do it but I can’t so for now I’m stuck where I am
Your posts do not make for good reading Smoggie…I think that it is wrong you are forced into this situation BUT at least you are prepared to get off your backside and put the hours in to work. I am sure you do, but just keep an eye out mate and hopefully something better may come along and at least give you part of your life back.
bazstan009:
Funny how a grafter gets a slating, now I understand why every other truck has a non UK pilot!
exactly. Bunch of whinging trolley dollies in this place.
A grafter eh?
Mugs, not grafters. Working long hours because the pay is so ■■■■ poor you have no option isn’t being a tough trucker fellas. It’s being too daft to know when you’re being shafted!
Not exactly a mug , yeah I might not have the best job but I couldn’t afford (Or wouldn’t want) to be out of work sitting on my arse all day , I have rent etc to pay like everyone else will so unfortunately I have took a job that was available albeit the hourly rate is terrible but what can I do ? If I could start work for another firm tomorrow with better pay then obviously I would do it but I can’t so for now I’m stuck where I am
Your posts do not make for good reading Smoggie…I think that it is wrong you are forced into this situation BUT at least you are prepared to get off your backside and put the hours in to work. I am sure you do, but just keep an eye out mate and hopefully something better may come along and at least give you part of your life back.
Smoggie ifyour not on £800 plus for doing 79 hrs you need to get a better job or get a life.
Presume you have a gaffer that always pleads poverty cant afford to pay you anymore IM ONLY A SMALL FAMILY OUTFIT but has big house and flash car
Not exactly a mug , yeah I might not have the best job but I couldn’t afford (Or wouldn’t want) to be out of work sitting on my arse all day , I have rent etc to pay like everyone else will so unfortunately I have took a job that was available albeit the hourly rate is terrible but what can I do ? If I could start work for another firm tomorrow with better pay then obviously I would do it but I can’t so for now I’m stuck where I am
Your posts do not make for good reading Smoggie…I think that it is wrong you are forced into this situation BUT at least you are prepared to get off your backside and put the hours in to work. I am sure you do, but just keep an eye out mate and hopefully something better may come along and at least give you part of your life back.
Thing is Smoggie, lots of us have been where you are, its how the job used to be years ago, we worked ourselves into early bloody graves, but those days should be over and not as some seem to be here encouraging their return.
Along came better conditions and times, i now earn in 44 hours what others might earn for 70 or 80, and yes i was lucky to end up here i’m extremely grateful and yes i do my absolute best for the company when i’m at work because i want the company to prosper and make a healthy profit and i want my job to last, anyone with an ounce of sense would.
No one blames you for being in a long hours to make it pay job, in fact good on you for doing the work, but its not something to celebrate either you deserve better…lots of us have physical and yes mental problems such as stress, broken marriages etc and many of the problems we have behind us can be largely blamed on the bloody ridiculous hours we’ve worked in the bad times that used to exist in this job…the last thing any of us want is a return to those days despite how we often wax lyrical about those better times through rose tinted glasses.
All i’m trying to do in my posts is encourage any driver to sit back and work out their real pay, and then do their best to get away from that which is verging on slave labour and get their lives back…seen too many good blokes killed off by the job long before their time.
Don’t include bloody night out money or expenses in pay, and be careful when considering large meal allowances which are not part of basic and do not get included in holiday pay, factor in unsocial hours worked, weekends, hours before 6am and after 6pm, bank hols etc.
Then divide the real pay by the hours worked, the average pay per hour is the only way to work it out and compare like for like.
Not exactly a mug , yeah I might not have the best job but I couldn’t afford (Or wouldn’t want) to be out of work sitting on my arse all day , I have rent etc to pay like everyone else will so unfortunately I have took a job that was available albeit the hourly rate is terrible but what can I do ? If I could start work for another firm tomorrow with better pay then obviously I would do it but I can’t so for now I’m stuck where I am
Your posts do not make for good reading Smoggie…I think that it is wrong you are forced into this situation BUT at least you are prepared to get off your backside and put the hours in to work. I am sure you do, but just keep an eye out mate and hopefully something better may come along and at least give you part of your life back.
Thing is Smoggie, lots of us have been where you are, its how the job used to be years ago, we worked ourselves into early bloody graves, but those days should be over and not as some seem to be here encouraging their return.
Along came better conditions and times, i now earn in 44 hours what others might earn for 70 or 80, and yes i was lucky to end up here i’m extremely grateful and yes i do my absolute best for the company when i’m at work because i want the company to prosper and make a healthy profit and i want my job to last, anyone with an ounce of sense would.
No one blames you for being in a long hours to make it pay job, in fact good on you for doing the work, but its not something to celebrate either you deserve better…lots of us have physical and yes mental problems such as stress, broken marriages etc and many of the problems we have behind us can be largely blamed on the bloody ridiculous hours we’ve worked in the bad times that used to exist in this job…the last thing any of us want is a return to those days despite how we often wax lyrical about those better times through rose tinted glasses.
All i’m trying to do in my posts is encourage any driver to sit back and work out their real pay, and then do their best to get away from that which is verging on slave labour and get their lives back…seen too many good blokes killed off by the job long before their time.
Don’t include bloody night out money or expenses in pay, and be careful when considering large meal allowances which are not part of basic and do not get included in holiday pay, factor in unsocial hours worked, weekends, hours before 6am and after 6pm, bank hols etc.
Then divide the real pay by the hours worked, the average pay per hour is the only way to work it out and compare like for like.
I will admit to anyone I get a terrible wage (I wouldn’t be surprised if it is 1 of the lowest in the country) but like I’ve said if I could get a better job then obviously I would , I see where the people slating me are coming from but they probably have a decent job , hopefully come sep 14 better jobs might pop up more than they do now until then I’ll have to stick with what I’ve got
I was talking to a bloke the other day (a truck driver) and he was over the moon cause he had earnt £32 odd K…I asked him about the hours he’d put in to getting that and the answer was around 70 per week…work that back and it’s only 18 or 19K per year so all in all, it’s not the best. But having said all that, I know somebody who earns 19k P.A. and is happy. It all comes down to personal circumstances at the end of the day.
Lusk:
I was talking to a bloke the other day (a truck driver) and he was over the moon cause he had earnt £32 odd K…I asked him about the hours he’d put in to getting that and the answer was around 70 per week…work that back and it’s only 18 or 19K per year so all in all, it’s not the best. But having said all that, I know somebody who earns 19k P.A. and is happy. It all comes down to personal circumstances at the end of the day.
For me it depends on the job.
I can’t earn under a certain amount or I’d struggle to pay bills and have nothing if crap went wrong, so you set a minimum earning amount, that’s per week / month not per hour.
Then, you find a job that pays you that amount, but it’s tramping, now, if you’re away all week, you might as well work as many hours as you can since you’re out of the house for the same length of time anyway, the only difference would be the ca$h that goes in the bank.
So, as a tramper, I’d be doing 70hrs easily, but if I’m home every night, then 12hr days are enough, maybe even more than enough, but they’d have to pay a certain amount per hour for me to be able to do that job.
Then you’ve got the jobs where the start time bounces around, but your not actually doing that many hours, but are still more tired and have less time to yourself than if you were doing 12hr days or tramping…
The issue isn’t so much whether you are working long hours for poor pay, but the fact that some peeps seem to think it’s a tough trucker thing to do, when in reality it’s something that only the desperate or stupid would do. .
Personally, I wouldn’t no matter what the circumstances and yes, I’ve struggled sometimes as a result. However, the end result has been I have been respected where I work, no one expects me to work for poor money (they know I won’t) and yet, I still find work these days.
I think the state of mind that ‘it’s better than no job’ is a false one and one that’s very difficult to break out of. When asked by a new employer your wage expectations (and often knowing where you’ve come from), they can get a feel for how far they can push you.
The more that work for poor money the more it’s expected in general within the haulage game. Most of the companies I work for will pay more than most of their drivers receive - if you’ve got the balls to ask. If you’re prepared to work for a pittance they’ll be happy to pay it.
There is no easy answer to those stuck in a rut but just accepting it as ‘that’s haulage’ is just not accurate in every situation.
simple as that, I take it everyone who is against me are paid £1000 a week and only do 5hours a day, if only everyone was as perfect