If you are allowed to do 2x10 hours in a “fixed week” 0000hrs Monday to 2359 hour sunday and you start work on a Saturday for your diver week - can you do 10 hours sat, 10 hours sun, 10 hours mon and 10 hours tue?
Jenson Button:
If you are allowed to do 2x10 hours in a “fixed week” 0000hrs Monday to 2359 hour sunday and you start work on a Saturday for your diver week - can you do 10 hours sat, 10 hours sun, 10 hours mon and 10 hours tue?
i would say no because your not having a weekly rest between them,think im right but it would be the first time if i were wrong
truckerone:
Jenson Button:
If you are allowed to do 2x10 hours in a “fixed week” 0000hrs Monday to 2359 hour sunday and you start work on a Saturday for your diver week - can you do 10 hours sat, 10 hours sun, 10 hours mon and 10 hours tue?i would say no because your not having a weekly rest between them,think im right but it would be the first time if i were wrong
Correct. The first 2 would have to be within the first week and therefore need a weekly rest before being allowed to do another 2x10.
Could you do this if you are away from base?
If i’m right in thinking you could take 24hrs weekly from 1200 sun to 1200 mon for example, leaving enough time to fit it in, unless of course the weekly rest has to be taken between the weekly start and finish
dar1976:
truckerone:
Jenson Button:
If you are allowed to do 2x10 hours in a “fixed week” 0000hrs Monday to 2359 hour sunday and you start work on a Saturday for your diver week - can you do 10 hours sat, 10 hours sun, 10 hours mon and 10 hours tue?i would say no because your not having a weekly rest between them,think im right but it would be the first time if i were wrong
Correct. The first 2 would have to be within the first week and therefore need a weekly rest before being allowed to do another 2x10.
You’re both wrong. You can do a 10h drive sat/sun/mon/tue quite legally as the rules, as the OP correctly said, are that you can do 2x10h per fixed week. Obviously this is only the case if in the first week you have not already done any 10h drives when you start work on the Saturday.
Paul
repton:
dar1976:
truckerone:
Jenson Button:
If you are allowed to do 2x10 hours in a “fixed week” 0000hrs Monday to 2359 hour sunday and you start work on a Saturday for your diver week - can you do 10 hours sat, 10 hours sun, 10 hours mon and 10 hours tue?i would say no because your not having a weekly rest between them,think im right but it would be the first time if i were wrong
Correct. The first 2 would have to be within the first week and therefore need a weekly rest before being allowed to do another 2x10.
You’re both wrong. You can do a 10h drive sat/sun/mon/tue quite legally as the rules, as the OP correctly said, as that you can do 2x10h per fixed week. Obviously this is only the case if in the first week you have not already done any 10h drives when you start work on the Saturday.
Paul
I agree… fixed week chaps. I certainly know folk that do the sat-tues thing…
repton:
dar1976:
truckerone:
Jenson Button:
If you are allowed to do 2x10 hours in a “fixed week” 0000hrs Monday to 2359 hour sunday and you start work on a Saturday for your diver week - can you do 10 hours sat, 10 hours sun, 10 hours mon and 10 hours tue?i would say no because your not having a weekly rest between them,think im right but it would be the first time if i were wrong
Correct. The first 2 would have to be within the first week and therefore need a weekly rest before being allowed to do another 2x10.
You’re both wrong. You can do a 10h drive sat/sun/mon/tue quite legally as the rules, as the OP correctly said, are that you can do 2x10h per fixed week. Obviously this is only the case if in the first week you have not already done any 10h drives when you start work on the Saturday.
Paul
Explain how you can achieve a minimum of 24h weekly rest between the 4x10s then.
Not arguing. Just trying to see your side of it.
repton:
You can do a 10h drive sat/sun/mon/tue quite legally as the rules, as the OP correctly said, are that you can do 2x10h per fixed week. Obviously this is only the case if in the first week you have not already done any 10h drives when you start work on the Saturday.
Is the correct answer.
dar1976:
Explain how you can achieve a minimum of 24h weekly rest between the 4x10s then.
You don’t need one. Suppose all you do is work Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday.
Saturday and Sunday fall in the first fixed week, and you can drive 10 hours on both days. Monday and Tuesday fall in the second fixed week and you can drive 10 hours on both days.
You have only driven for four days and have had 45 hours off both before and after. so you haven’t fallen foul of the weekly rest requirement.
10 hour drives come under fixed week rules, weekly rest requirements come under rolling week rules.
I was suprised at the answer, technically you can drive 58 hours if you work across the weekend:
Weekly rest
Fri 9
Sat10
Sun 10
Mon 10
Tue 10
wed 9
Weekly rest
Harry Monk:
dar1976:
Explain how you can achieve a minimum of 24h weekly rest between the 4x10s then.You don’t need one. Suppose all you do is work Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday.
Saturday and Sunday fall in the first fixed week, and you can drive 10 hours on both days. Monday and Tuesday fall in the second fixed week and you can drive 10 hours on both days.
You have only driven for four days and have had 45 hours off both before and after. so you haven’t fallen foul of the weekly rest requirement.
Oh yeah. See your point :-/
Harry Monk:
dar1976:
Explain how you can achieve a minimum of 24h weekly rest between the 4x10s then.You don’t need one. Suppose all you do is work Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday.
Saturday and Sunday fall in the first fixed week, and you can drive 10 hours on both days. Monday and Tuesday fall in the second fixed week and you can drive 10 hours on both days.
You have only driven for four days and have had 45 hours off both before and after. so you haven’t fallen foul of the weekly rest requirement.
10 hour drives come under fixed week rules, weekly rest requirements come under rolling week rules.
Exactly.
dar1976:
Explain how you can achieve a minimum of 24h weekly rest between the 4x10s then.
As HM has already pointed out, nothing in the rules says you need to have a weekly rest to “reset” your 10h drives so you can legally do 4 in a row without anything more than a normal 9 or 11h daily rest inbetween them.
The 3 allowed reduced daily rests, on the other hand, are not “per week” but “between weekly rest periods” and as such you need at least a 24h reduced weekly reset to “reset” them.
You would think it would be easier if they both worked on the same basis but just to confuse us all they work differently…
Paul
So is Jenson Button just another troll to visit this site, these questions are asked on a weekly basis and then he or she starts a new thread asking almost the same question.
This is where the regs confuse working is midnite Sunday to midnite Sunday where as driving time is between weekly rest periods.
We need one set of rules that work for our benefit not the employer
Mr B:
This is where the regs confuse working is midnite Sunday to midnite Sunday where as driving time is between weekly rest periods.
We need one set of rules that work for our benefit not the employer
i agree, we need to get rid of the rules, then we can work as much or as little as we want.
limeyphil:
i agree, we need to get rid of the rules, then we can work as much or as little as we want.
Rules are for fools! 
Harry Monk:
limeyphil:
i agree, we need to get rid of the rules, then we can work as much or as little as we want.Rules are for fools!
that’s very true.
i must be a major fool because i keep reading up on them. 
Nope aint no troll - since i have had to do this bloody DCPC lark it has left me with too many unexplaied questions, and my dad was pushing me to be the DCPC trainer at our place, and i decided against it. But now i have done my 5 lots of 7 hours to be honest I am in a further muddle than I was before, and I do only post once a week or so, because my world is mad, and Sat and Sunday is about the only time I aint having to do a 1000 other things.
Alot of the information i get on here is fab, and I wont say i dont appreciate it - but my folks are still on at me about being our companies trainer and to be honest i am scared to death that they will push me into it. So I am doing as much learning as i can