Your driving licence record is now online

Roymondo:
They recently tried out a beta version of the MoT/insurance status checker. Unlike the “full” version, you could enter any number plate and see the details (no need for any other documentary/reference to get access). Handy for checking on the status of some of the sheds my neighbours drive around in…

mind your own business, bet the neighbours love you, curtain twitcher springs to mind

It reports my details correctly.
Thanks for the link
Paul

Mine is correct, but its handy to be able to check that the info they hold is right.

I don’t have any driving entitlement apparently.

What a load of ■■■■■■■■.

green456:

Roymondo:
They recently tried out a beta version of the MoT/insurance status checker. Unlike the “full” version, you could enter any number plate and see the details (no need for any other documentary/reference to get access). Handy for checking on the status of some of the sheds my neighbours drive around in…

mind your own business, bet the neighbours love you, curtain twitcher springs to mind

I don’t give a stuff what they think of me - Most of them are mouth breathing knuckle-draggers whose view of the world is pretty much irrelevant anyway. Besides, if they are sharing the roads with me and my family then it bloody well is my business - with Police enforcement of such things as insurance and MoT at a pretty low level, I’d much rather the tossers at least thought their neighbours could check up on their vehicles - might encourage them to scrap said sheds (or at least stop driving the bloody things around).

and renew licence online for a while now

Does that include HGV renewal if you are under 45■■

Well I was going to have a look but it says it wants my Nat. Ins. number?
I don’t really see what business it is of theirs to have this info.
Bit too much of big brother methinks.

axletramp:
Well I was going to have a look but it says it wants my Nat. Ins. number?
I don’t really see what business it is of theirs to have this info.
Bit too much of big brother methinks.

They already have the info - They want you to give it (and your postcode, driver number etc) to help confirm that you are who you say you are (and that you are entitled to see the driver record).

Roymondo:

axletramp:
Well I was going to have a look but it says it wants my Nat. Ins. number?
I don’t really see what business it is of theirs to have this info.
Bit too much of big brother methinks.

They already have the info - They want you to give it (and your postcode, driver number etc) to help confirm that you are who you say you are (and that you are entitled to see the driver record).

Well I don’t remember giving them my Nat. Ins. number -
where could they have got it from?
Similarly, I had cause to phone my gas / electricity supplier
who wanted me to confirm my date of birth - where has
this been taken from?
Also, what happened to the Data Protection Act;
does it only work one way now?

The “A” in DVLA stands for “Agency” - They are an executive agency of the DfT (i.e. an arm of HM Government). As such they have access to, and can cross-reference your details with, HMRC, Dept for Work & Pensions etc. Many of the restrictions on holding/processing personal data are specifically exempt for purposes of national security, Crime and taxation, and Regulatory activity. Besides which, the DPA doesn’t actually forbid the holding or use of personal data anyway.

As for the energy companies - I’d bet a pound to a pinch of snuff you did give them your date of birth etc.

WOOHOO! Oi can droive tractorrrrr!

Roymondo:

axletramp:
Well I was going to have a look but it says it wants my Nat. Ins. number?
I don’t really see what business it is of theirs to have this info.
Bit too much of big brother methinks.

They already have the info - They want you to give it (and your postcode, driver number etc) to help confirm that you are who you say you are (and that you are entitled to see the driver record).

They do not already have the info, they are looking for your permission (given when you tick the box) to correlate all your personal info (HMRC records and NI details) with your drivers licence details. None of that information has previously been held by DVLA. If it was held by DVLA then they would not need your permission to correlate with other agencies, as according to you they have it. They don’t have it. Drivers licence number, name and DOB is already enough to verify your drivers details.
Also i do not have a held record on that site/database. I appreciate at the moment its incomplete and its in beta form , however i was recently almost taken away in a Police car for having no drivers licence as they held no records for me. Luckily for me i held a photocopy of my drivers licence which was in my folder and they where able to verify me from the licence number on my copy but that was after “you’ll have to come with us”, my name, address and dob was not enough to identify me. Which of course ■■■■■■ me off, just like it would ■■■■ a copper off if i asked him to show me his warrant card and let me record the details of it before i agreed to speak to him, so i’m fully aware of whom i’m speaking to.

Mike-C:

Roymondo:

axletramp:
Well I was going to have a look but it says it wants my Nat. Ins. number?
I don’t really see what business it is of theirs to have this info.
Bit too much of big brother methinks.

They already have the info - They want you to give it (and your postcode, driver number etc) to help confirm that you are who you say you are (and that you are entitled to see the driver record).

They do not already have the info, they are looking for your permission (given when you tick the box) to correlate all your personal info (HMRC records and NI details) with your drivers licence details. None of that information has previously been held by DVLA. If it was held by DVLA then they would not need your permission to correlate with other agencies, as according to you they have it. They don’t have it. Drivers licence number, name and DOB is already enough to verify your drivers details.
Also i do not have a held record on that site/database. I appreciate at the moment its incomplete and its in beta form , however i was recently almost taken away in a Police car for having no drivers licence as they held no records for me. Luckily for me i held a photocopy of my drivers licence which was in my folder and they where able to verify me from the licence number on my copy but that was after “you’ll have to come with us”, my name, address and dob was not enough to identify me. Which of course ■■■■■■ me off, just like it would ■■■■ a copper off if i asked him to show me his warrant card and let me record the details of it before i agreed to speak to him, so i’m fully aware of whom i’m speaking to.

Good post. ■■■■ 'em all.

As all the information regarding VED, insurance, MOT’s and driving licences is inputted on to the databases by humans then there will always be the possibility of errors being made.

Unfortunately the person who suffers the hassle and inconvenience of these errors is unlikely to be the person that made them and as always when dealing with such issues nobody is responsible.

Mike-C:

Roymondo:

axletramp:
Well I was going to have a look but it says it wants my Nat. Ins. number?
I don’t really see what business it is of theirs to have this info.
Bit too much of big brother methinks.

They already have the info - They want you to give it (and your postcode, driver number etc) to help confirm that you are who you say you are (and that you are entitled to see the driver record).

They do not already have the info, they are looking for your permission (given when you tick the box) to correlate all your personal info (HMRC records and NI details) with your drivers licence details. None of that information has previously been held by DVLA. If it was held by DVLA then they would not need your permission to correlate with other agencies, as according to you they have it. They don’t have it. Drivers licence number, name and DOB is already enough to verify your drivers details.

But in this case “They” are HM Government and its executive agencies (including DVLA) and so “they” certainly do have your NI number. If you enter someone else’s NI number on the site (even someone with the same name) it is rejected. Date of birth is a bit pointless to verify your details - it is already part of your driver number…

it doesn’t work for n.ireland licence holders as expected. :smiley: sometimes I think its not part of the uk

kris206:
it doesn’t work for n.ireland licence holders as expected. :smiley: sometimes I think its not part of the uk

A sizeable chunk of the population would tend to agree!

Btw, according to the site I’m only qualified to drive an invalid carriage made from recycled gopher skin. So, spot on then!

can your employer log in and check this without your permission

edinburgh_newbie:
can your employer log in and check this without your permission

Legally/Officially? NO

Technically? YES

Nearly all employers will have access to your driver number and NI number, so yes they COULD

Roymondo:

Mike-C:

Roymondo:

axletramp:
Well I was going to have a look but it says it wants my Nat. Ins. number?
I don’t really see what business it is of theirs to have this info.
Bit too much of big brother methinks.

They already have the info - They want you to give it (and your postcode, driver number etc) to help confirm that you are who you say you are (and that you are entitled to see the driver record).

They do not already have the info, they are looking for your permission (given when you tick the box) to correlate all your personal info (HMRC records and NI details) with your drivers licence details. None of that information has previously been held by DVLA. If it was held by DVLA then they would not need your permission to correlate with other agencies, as according to you they have it. They don’t have it. Drivers licence number, name and DOB is already enough to verify your drivers details.

But in this case “They” are HM Government and its executive agencies (including DVLA) and so “they” certainly do have your NI number. If you enter someone else’s NI number on the site (even someone with the same name) it is rejected. Date of birth is a bit pointless to verify your details - it is already part of your driver number…

Google “correlate” . You’ll eventually discover that this (applying to see your licence details) will help the Government achieve its aim to correlate (or gather together) all your info into one place so they do not have to cross reference other agencies etc. This however is NOT made clear. So, no, in this case “They” are the DVLA or whatever they are called now. "They " do not hold all that extra info, and YES a drivers licence number, name , address, DOB IS all that is needed to identify your licence and confirm your identity. Thats all they ask for on a drivers licence form. And the DOB is not pointless as its usually obfuscated or shortened when its part of your licence number.
Also if you do enter someone elses NI number with the same name it will have a different address and DOB so will NOT match the drivers records held, thats why its refused. You never made a Detective when you where in the force did you i guess ? :smiley: