Yet again another cyclist dies

Scanner:
Don’t be surprised to find that the average RN will be populated by loads of trucks trying to make up time while trying to also avoid the autoroute tolls and not all,or in fact many,will be driven by those with much sympathy for the cycling cause

No, you said this. Completely different.

I’m not bothered by people passing me “a bit close”. I would like people to give me enough room to safely pass, but I’m not going to lose any sleep over it if they don’t. I’m going to Chiswick tomorrow actually, it’s not a problem cycling around there.

It seemed to be enough of a problem for the ■■■■■■ on the cycle who made the video about the so called truck driver who tried to supposedly kill him.When the video shows otherwise.

As for French RN’s etc ‘enough’ and ‘loads’ are close enough to mean the same thing unlike ‘full’.Which probably explains why they close the roads for the tour de france.Unfortunately for everyone on the roads you wouldn’t have that privilege. :unamused:

EastAnglianTrucker:
As I’ve already noted, you’ve been exposed …

With respect, do track back and see who in the order of things started where with the personal insults. I think you’ll find that I respond with kind. I have engaged in discussion and debate with everyone. If you also look in the other thread which I debated in, you’ll also note that I discussed at length in there too.

The subject here isn’t your ability to out manoeuvre me, neither is it how bruised and hurt you feel because I happen to disagree with you. You might also note that I haven’t accused anyone of being a troll - merely because they may disagree with me. Neither am I small minded enough to think that someone may be trying to stop me from having my say - purely because they disagree with me. Those are all your issues - not mine.

I happen to enjoy debate and discussion with like minded or otherwise people. If by me saying that some truck drivers shouldn’t be allowed to push a pram or a wheelbarrow because they are well… ‘thick’ if that gets to you, I don’t really care, I’m not your nanny - grow up - get a grip. You are not exposing anything other than your own ability to misquote, misunderstand and take offence where no personal offence was intended against any specific individual. Perhaps, you lack self esteem, if so - go speak to a counsellor, get some therapy, but do please stop trying to trip me up with your bollox about grammar etc. Your no where near as smart as you think you are, you’re not running rings around anyone.

FWIW, I have offered stacks of ideas, potential methods of improving road safety both in this thread and in the other thread I mentioned. What have you suggested to improve matters? Try doing that instead of crying into your soup because I’m not interested in responding to your personal ■■■■■■■■ about how bright you think you are compared to me. That’s not the mission here is it? The idea is to discuss better ways to improve road safety - to which so far you appear to have offered nothing. I apologise in advance if you have and I missed it. Furthermore, there is no need for you to quote the entire blocks of text which I wrote… I know what I wrote. It just clogs up the page unnecessarily.

Now all that said, I have blocked Carryfast, mainly because he just writes the same dull single sentences and fills up the screen with the same continuous rants. I even think he’s entitled to his opinion, there is nothing I can or want to do to stop him having his say, I’m just not interested in what he says. I’m just as entitled to ignore him as you are to have you say. Just a shame you are focussing on me - rather than putting your own points forward.

Now if you want to come back at me with lots more bollox about how smart you are and how grammatically challenged I am - go for it. Before you do though, consider these minor factors. When I write my post into this thread, I blind type at however many words per min… at the same time, I am operating several other computers around me, on one I’m knocking up applications in php where a dot in the wrong place can corrupt all, on another machine I’m writing up news articles that appear in newspapers, mags, websites etc, on another machine I’m editing photos to go with the articles, on another I’m editing video, on another machine I’m dealing with anywhere between a few dozen and a few hundred of my own incoming email messages… many of which get less attention than you are getting. I then manage the email accounts of umpty other users and I set out the ROP - that’s Run of Paper for a well known title. In the small windows of opportunity that appear between, I’m knocking out posts in here. They won’t all be brilliantly written, most will have errors in them… like I really care what you think about me personally.

Over to you - what would you do to improve things for road users - including cyclists?

Scanner:

Carryfast:

Scanner:

Carryfast:

Scanner:
Undertaking a stationary vehicle is quite different to being overtaken by same when it is travelling at 30/40/50MPH.

It’s called physics.

The vehicle in question wasn’t exactly stationary it was in fact running at around a similar speed as the cyclist was.While that still doesn’t answer the issue of ignoring a marked cycleway and then moaning about being passed by the truck in question with the same amount of clearance when the cyclist shouldn’t even have been there.

What vehicle? You didn’t specify one.

Yes I did unless you’ve already forgotten about this post. :confused: :unamused:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=102686&start=90#p1529416

I’ve just watched the video. It’s heavy traffic, the cyclist is making progress. Tipper man either doesn’t see him or deliberately gives him a nudge. Either way he’s in the wrong.

That’s the typical cyclist view of the video.From a driver’s perspective the truck was running at sufficient speed in road and traffic conditions not to need to be over or undertaken by anyone including cyclists.The cyclist then chose to undertake the truck using an amount of clearance which conveniently seems to be considered ok by cyclists in that case but not in the case of when they’re being overtaken.The cyclist then decided to ignore the cycle lane directing him off the road at an obvious hazard pinch point which is why it’s there and the truck driver then decided to overtake the cyclist leaving a similar amount of room as that which the cyclist felt was fine moments before when he overtook the truck.At worse tipper driver thought that the cyclist had followed the marked cycle path and the cyclist was in a blind spot on the nearside but obviously had his doubts thereby saving the cyclists life having left sufficient space anyway.The cyclist then obviously tried to frame the truck driver by staging a so called collision which never actually happened the cyclist just actually having turned into the bus stop and then threw the cycle on the ground.Totally the fault of the cyclist and maybe even a possible crash for cash insurance scam.

Carryfast:

Scanner:

Carryfast:

Scanner:

Carryfast:

Scanner:
Undertaking a stationary vehicle is quite different to being overtaken by same when it is travelling at 30/40/50MPH.

It’s called physics.

The vehicle in question wasn’t exactly stationary it was in fact running at around a similar speed as the cyclist was.While that still doesn’t answer the issue of ignoring a marked cycleway and then moaning about being passed by the truck in question with the same amount of clearance when the cyclist shouldn’t even have been there.

What vehicle? You didn’t specify one.

Yes I did unless you’ve already forgotten about this post. :confused: :unamused:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=102686&start=90#p1529416

I’ve just watched the video. It’s heavy traffic, the cyclist is making progress. Tipper man either doesn’t see him or deliberately gives him a nudge. Either way he’s in the wrong.

That’s the typical cyclist view of the video.From a driver’s perspective the truck was running at sufficient speed in road and traffic conditions not to need to be over or undertaken by anyone including cyclists.The cyclist then chose to undertake the truck using an amount of clearance which conveniently seems to be considered ok by cyclists in that case but not in the case of when they’re being overtaken.The cyclist then decided to ignore the cycle lane directing him off the road at an obvious hazard pinch point which is why it’s there and the truck driver then decided to overtake the cyclist leaving a similar amount of room as that which the cyclist felt was fine moments before when he overtook the truck.At worse tipper driver thought that the cyclist had followed the marked cycle path and the cyclist was in a blind spot on the nearside but obviously had his doubts thereby saving the cyclists life having left sufficient space anyway.The cyclist then obviously tried to frame the truck driver by staging a so called collision which never actually happened the cyclist just actually having turned into the bus stop and then threw the cycle on the ground.Totally the fault of the cyclist and maybe even a possible crash for cash insurance scam.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: I’m interacting with the mentally ill. Enough.

mickyblue:

Carryfast:

wildfire:
if he was driving a car and someone died then he would of been arrested just the same as he was for driving a truck, it is correct procedure for any fatal accident.
I don’t understand why people get wound up about the fact, it is done purely for investigation and collecting evidence in case there is a court case, otherwise it would not be permissible for anything that is gathered to be put before the court.
he will be a quickly de-arrested if there is no criminal act to be prosecuted over :confused: :open_mouth: :cry:

If that’s right then it would be impossible to arrest the driver on suspicion of a foregone charge because at that point there’s insufficient evidence for such a charge.It would just be the driver has been arrested pending investigation as to possible charges.It doesn’t take a genius to realise that drivers and the weak transport unions are allowing themselves to be victimised because of a politically driven agenda which favours cyclists regardless of how stupid and suicidal the majority of cyclists are behaving on the roads around trucks.As for the unions there’s not much point in having them at all if they are too stupid to want to get involved in defending truck drivers against this ongoing and obviously ever increasing issue.Hopefully before yet more of those drivers end up at the wrong end,of what is an obvious foregone charging and enforcement regime,which is making drivers the scapegoats for what is a flawed and dangerous cyclist/motor traffic road sharing agenda.

Sorry but all drivers get arrested car/van and lorry drivers, they all get arrested if there is a death at a scene of an accident and might be cleared of any wrong doing in the near future.

I cannot see what the fuss is. I cannot also see who is being “victimised”

I was involved in a fatality with a motor cyclist a few months ago, was never put under arrest or read rights.

Washwipe:
I was involved in a fatality with a motor cyclist a few months ago, was never put under arrest or read rights.

Washwipe,

Would you mind saying which police force that was? I’m genuinely interested - there does seem to be different policy from one force to another.

If you can answer these questions, twould be interesting to know the answers:

Was the deceased pronounced dead at the scene?
Were you injured?
Were you taken to hospital?
Did you have to do a breathalyser?
Were you directly involved in the collision?
Did you have ID on you?
Were you offered any assistance from the police in getting you home?
Did you make a statement immediately after the event or later?

Tonight the m5 is closed nb 6 to 5 .
On the diversion just before you get back onto the m5 there was a cyclist with no lights dressed in dark colours riding down the wrong side of the road . If anyone was to crash with him we become the enemy yet cyclists are above the law

Yesterday morning while cycling to work I was approaching traffic lights. I was overtaken by a tipper truck. As he was about 75 mtrs from the lights they started to change, he floored it, and with no indication turned left on red. Why do some truckers think the rules don’t apply to them?

Slackbladder:
Yesterday morning while cycling to work I was approaching traffic lights. I was overtaken by a tipper truck. As he was about 75 mtrs from the lights they started to change, he floored it, and with no indication turned left on red. Why do some truckers think the rules don’t apply to them?

And how did that affect you?
Another moaning zb with nothing better to do!!

Its another carryfast rant. Carryfast dont like cycling so all cyclists are morons and should be baned. Carryfast likes big fast cars so petrol should be 50p a gallon and the speed limit should be 180mph on the motorway.

Boomerang Dave:

Turbovision:
Did you offer a report of that conversation with the driver to the police?

Can’t say it was the most enjoyable experience in my life, but yes, the police came to my home - where I gave a signed statement. AFAIK, he pleaded guilty to the charges, so no witnesses for the prosecution were called.

I realise he will have been traumatised, no doubt had time in prison to reflect on his refusal to receive the help offered. If I’m bluntly honest, my sympathies were and remain entirely with the victims and their families. His only credit is he admitted fault.

I would think it’s unusual for the drivers of insecure loads to actually get jail sentences even when they do cause fatalities.

The one I remember was one in Cornwall when the bucket of a mechanical digger ( on a low-loader) swung out striking four cars coming in the opposite direction.

That one also resulted in five fatalities! However a petition was raised calling for leniency in favour of the low-loader driver.
He was spared jail.

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cnplus.co.uk/news/loader-tra … 23.article

Boomerang Dave:
Now if you want to come back at me with lots more bollox about how smart you are and how grammatically challenged I am - go for it. Before you do though, consider these minor factors. When I write my post into this thread, I blind type at however many words per min… at the same time, I am operating several other computers around me, on one I’m knocking up applications in php where a dot in the wrong place can corrupt all, on another machine I’m writing up news articles that appear in newspapers, mags, websites etc, on another machine I’m editing photos to go with the articles, on another I’m editing video, on another machine I’m dealing with anywhere between a few dozen and a few hundred of my own incoming email messages… many of which get less attention than you are getting. I then manage the email accounts of umpty other users and I set out the ROP - that’s Run of Paper for a well known title. In the small windows of opportunity that appear between, I’m knocking out posts in here. They won’t all be brilliantly written, most will have errors in them… like I really care what you think about me personally.

Ah, now we finally get to the crux of the matter!

Yet again we are being harangued by an ex/failed/wannabe/couldn’t hack it lorry driver. Granted this is a free, public forum and as such it is right and proper that anybody no matter what walk of life they come from should be free to post. I have no problem with that whatsoever, but what does twist my melons is when someone who doesn’t even do this job posts inflammatory remarks labelling a high percentage of lorry drivers as thick and uneducated. I may take that from a REAL lorry driver, but certainly not from you.

Granted, you may have done the job in the past, but I was a paperboy in the past, I don’t think that gives me an automatic right to go on paperboy.net and verbally abuse its members does it?

People often moan that Trucknet isn’t as good as it used to be, I personally don’t subscribe to that opinion as I think any forum is only as good as it’s current content and imo Trucknet is as strong as ever in that respect. However, I can certainly understand why folk would say that when constantly we are subjected to bollox and lectures from those who’s only contact with this profession was when they were held up by a truck on the way to the garden centre!

It is also noticeable that you and your ilk never contribute to the “pictures of your truck” thread. Is this because a picture of your beige Mondeo covered in ROSPA stickers wouldn’t do much for your credibility?

Eastanglian trucker posted something earlier which completely took you and your argument apart, Scanner then had the temerity to agree with him. How did you respond? With a well reasoned rebuttal? No, you responded entirely predictably with insults and childish name calling.

“For drivers, by drivers” ah how nice that would be. I’m afraid that as long as you and your sort crawl out from under your rocks then that is going to be an unattainable dream.

So to sum up, I’m not going to put you on my ignore list, but I am going to simply ignore you and will enter into no dialogue with you simply because imo your views on this forum have no legitimacy whatsoever.

the maoster:
Ah, now we finally get to the crux of the matter!

Hi Sherlock,

And on the subject of the thread?.. nothing again?

I do wonder what you think you will achieve by your personal attacks on me. Perhaps you scent blood, weakness in my character, or even edify yourself - telling yourself you are successful… a real ■■■■■■■■ trucker and therefore better informed, or a great achiever and thus rendering my opinions worthless - even though they are almost entirely on subject - offering potential options, none of which you appear to be doing.

So, not that it is any of your business, but seen as YOU have raised me as your issue… here’s a glance of me and what I’m about. It’s not complete, there’s a lot I’ve done not in here…

I started work at 11 years old - I created my own window cleaning round on a council estate in Leeds - cleaning the windows of ground floor flats. At the age of 16, I started an apprenticeship. At 19 I was driving 7.5 D Series, at 21 passed HGV Class One. During that period I had joined the Territorial Army (no they didn’t put me through class one), so that kept me busy at weekends too. I gave up the T/A because I was offered work tramping around Europe - General Haulage. I then came back and secured a job with British Steel - ex-GKN Steelstock - still on Class 1 Work. To be honest, by the mid 90s I was completely and utterly bored stupid with tarmac, there’s only so much tarmac you can roll over before it becomes mundane and doing the same runs does get tiresome. I then took a job as a photographer with a particular police force, and that is the job that I could not hack. I thought I was made of stronger stuff - but soon discovered I wasn’t, nasty stuff indeed.

My wife and I by then parents, had bought our Council House, which we sold at a handsome profit and decided to move to a rural location, where we set up business, over the course of time we set up three businesses. In the early days of business, the cash flow was difficult so I returned to freelance driving - mainly because contrary to your thinking about it being tough or hard to hack… it’s monkey business… any ■■■■-less buffoon can drive a truck - it’s real easy-peasy money. Over time the businesses grew and up until about 7 years ago we were making more money than we could spend - we were in the buy-to-rent sector. We decided to sell off the largest chunks of our businesses, keeping some of the smaller portfolio of properties which we still rent out.

We moved up through the property chain - still own several properties and the farm on which we live, where we have converted all of the outbuildings into holiday lets. However, these days I work mainly as a freelance photo journalist, but in fairness, that’s because I’m a real workaholic, we could have retired several years ago - living off the rent income from the properties. My wife runs the holiday accommodations and we have an agent taking care of the rest of the stock. The farmland we own is rented to a neighbour, it’s mainly arable - a small amount has livestock on it… a bit of dairy.

My current interest in driving is that a few weeks ago I decided I would yet again return to driving - hence the handle: Boomerang… keep coming back… I had my medical that was fine, sent off for a driver card and licence renewal… I’d let that lapse… it took the sum total of 4 days to get them back, I was very impressed with that, having read some of the concerns of drivers having difficulties. In preparation, I spoke to another friend and arranged to do some yard shunting, which I’ve done and can report - first half hour was a bit anxious, second day though and it was easy - by the end of the week it was like I’d never been out of the seat.

Yesterday, I spoke with farmer not far from here who has a few trucks, he’s already offered me work to start in two weeks, double manning to cover a holiday leave etc - which Il’ll do for next to nothing as he’s a friend. Yesterday I spoke with a couple of nearby haulage firms - both say they have work for me. I’m looking forward to it, compared to everything I’ve been doing for the past few years I know it’s gonna be fun - it won’t be full time, just me having a bit of fun. For some saddo reason, I miss driving trucks and I don’t like golf or cricket. The discussions I had with the hauliers went a bit like this: Do you ever need casual drivers? Answer: Yes. I’m available self employed on ■■■ days, fixed rate £20 per hour. Yes we are interested… what have you done? Where have you worked? No photos of me driving - no photos of my trucks… so I’ll be getting paid for having fun days out of the office. HGV driving might be the big challenge to you, possibly in your mind some people may not be able to ‘hack it’ for me - it’s the easiest thing I’ve ever done and a better way of having some fun than Golf or Cricket.

And only because you have taken if upon yourself to attack me instead of adding anything constructive to the thread. I have to say: What a ■■■■ you really are.

No doubt your mate will be along now with his grammar and spellchecker. What a right pair of thick Pillocks.

Boomerang Dave:
wrote… Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah.

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Ok, one last response because your frankly quite pitiful diatribe deserves at least that!

Did I ask for your life story? Err no, not because I’m not in the slightest interested in it, yeah ok I lied, I’m not in the slightest interested in it. Live, die, prosper or fail I care not one jot for you or your life.

Did I personally insult you? Err no again, I think you’ll find that was you cretin (oops, there I go lowering myself to your level). You see the problem is that you’re a one trick pony, you post merely for effect and add very little if anything to the forum except negativity, scorn and contempt as can be witnessed by your labelling of truck drivers as stupid, ill educated morons. Anybody who dares to disagree with your narrow and blinkered view of the world is subjected to scorn, ridicule and quite frankly childish name calling.

I grant you that you hold a modicum of intelligence but that in no way entitles you to belittle the decent hard working men and women here that you obviously feel nothing but contempt for. In my book that makes you a troll and as such should be treat like one. Hopefully you’ll see the error of your ways, sort out your inner demons and maybe become a valued member. Or maybe you’ll just go away!

I said before that I’d no longer enter into dialogue with you, well that still stands. I will read your posts (skimming over your long meandering verbal attacks of course) and if I feel that you have rehabilitated and can post without abuse then I may just deign to favour you with a response :wink:

I put the wink on the end because despite your many glaringly obvious deficits I feel that in your defence you do have a keen wit and I like that in a man, so feel that maybe you are not beyond redemption.

Boomerang Dave:

the maoster:
Ah, now we finally get to the crux of the matter!

Hi Sherlock,

And on the subject of the thread?.. nothing again?

I do wonder what you think you will achieve by your personal attacks on me. Perhaps you scent blood, weakness in my character, or even edify yourself - telling yourself you are successful… a real ■■■■■■■■ trucker and therefore better informed, or a great achiever and thus rendering my opinions worthless - even though they are almost entirely on subject - offering potential options, none of which you appear to be doing.

So, not that it is any of your business, but seen as YOU have raised me as your issue… here’s a glance of me and what I’m about. It’s not complete, there’s a lot I’ve done not in here…

I started work at 11 years old - I created my own window cleaning round on a council estate in Leeds - cleaning the windows of ground floor flats. At the age of 16, I started an apprenticeship. At 19 I was driving 7.5 D Series, at 21 passed HGV Class One. During that period I had joined the Territorial Army (no they didn’t put me through class one), so that kept me busy at weekends too. I gave up the T/A because I was offered work tramping around Europe - General Haulage. I then came back and secured a job with British Steel - ex-GKN Steelstock - still on Class 1 Work. To be honest, by the mid 90s I was completely and utterly bored stupid with tarmac, there’s only so much tarmac you can roll over before it becomes mundane and doing the same runs does get tiresome. I then took a job as a photographer with a particular police force, and that is the job that I could not hack. I thought I was made of stronger stuff - but soon discovered I wasn’t, nasty stuff indeed.

My wife and I by then parents, had bought our Council House, which we sold at a handsome profit and decided to move to a rural location, where we set up business, over the course of time we set up three businesses. In the early days of business, the cash flow was difficult so I returned to freelance driving - mainly because contrary to your thinking about it being tough or hard to hack… it’s monkey business… any ■■■■-less buffoon can drive a truck - it’s real easy-peasy money. Over time the businesses grew and up until about 7 years ago we were making more money than we could spend - we were in the buy-to-rent sector. We decided to sell off the largest chunks of our businesses, keeping some of the smaller portfolio of properties which we still rent out.

We moved up through the property chain - still own several properties and the farm on which we live, where we have converted all of the outbuildings into holiday lets. However, these days I work mainly as a freelance photo journalist, but in fairness, that’s because I’m a real workaholic, we could have retired several years ago - living off the rent income from the properties. My wife runs the holiday accommodations and we have an agent taking care of the rest of the stock. The farmland we own is rented to a neighbour, it’s mainly arable - a small amount has livestock on it… a bit of dairy.

My current interest in driving is that a few weeks ago I decided I would yet again return to driving - hence the handle: Boomerang… keep coming back… I had my medical that was fine, sent off for a driver card and licence renewal… I’d let that lapse… it took the sum total of 4 days to get them back, I was very impressed with that, having read some of the concerns of drivers having difficulties. In preparation, I spoke to another friend and arranged to do some yard shunting, which I’ve done and can report - first half hour was a bit anxious, second day though and it was easy - by the end of the week it was like I’d never been out of the seat.

Yesterday, I spoke with farmer not far from here who has a few trucks, he’s already offered me work to start in two weeks, double manning to cover a holiday leave etc - which Il’ll do for next to nothing as he’s a friend. Yesterday I spoke with a couple of nearby haulage firms - both say they have work for me. I’m looking forward to it, compared to everything I’ve been doing for the past few years I know it’s gonna be fun - it won’t be full time, just me having a bit of fun. For some saddo reason, I miss driving trucks and I don’t like golf or cricket. The discussions I had with the hauliers went a bit like this: Do you ever need casual drivers? Answer: Yes. I’m available self employed on ■■■ days, fixed rate £20 per hour. Yes we are interested… what have you done? Where have you worked? No photos of me driving - no photos of my trucks… so I’ll be getting paid for having fun days out of the office. HGV driving might be the big challenge to you, possibly in your mind some people may not be able to ‘hack it’ for me - it’s the easiest thing I’ve ever done and a better way of having some fun than Golf or Cricket.

And only because you have taken if upon yourself to attack me instead of adding anything constructive to the thread. I have to say: What a ■■■■ you really are.

No doubt your mate will be along now with his grammar and spellchecker. What a right pair of thick Pillocks.

Why so delicate? Why such thin skin? Why the need for the life story?

I suspect this is all fantasy.

Boomerang Dave:
With respect, do track back and see who in the order of things started where with the personal insults. I think you’ll find that I respond with kind. I have engaged in discussion and debate with everyone. If you also look in the other thread which I debated in, you’ll also note that I discussed at length in there too.

I can’t find any insult that I’ve directed at you in my original post. Oh, of course, how silly of me, the fact that I’ve comprehensively demolished the points you made using perfectly reasonable language, constitutes an insult in your Boomerang Dave world.

And your response, because you have no reasonable reply, is to distract from the points made, by personally insulting the messenger who exposes your deluded opinions with reasoned comment. How clever you are!

Boomerang Dave:
The subject here isn’t your ability to out manoeuvre me, neither is it how bruised and hurt you feel because I happen to disagree with you. You might also note that I haven’t accused anyone of being a troll - merely because they may disagree with me. Neither am I small minded enough to think that someone may be trying to stop me from having my say - purely because they disagree with me. Those are all your issues - not mine.

The subject was my reply to your disrespectful and quite frankly deluded comments that; “It’s been realised for some time now that a great number of HGV drivers are very poorly educated, lacking the academic skills that could make them better professionals, with a greater understanding of wider issues.”

Apart from still waiting for a reasoned argument from you justifying that inane comment, I’m still incredulous that you consider that in any way acceptable in a forum for truck drivers. What exact qualifications do you possess to make that judgement? I suspect none, although given your penchant for telling all and sundry what a clever boy you are, you’ll be telling us next you’re also a part time brain surgeon.

Boomerang Dave:
I happen to enjoy debate and discussion with like minded or otherwise people. If by me saying that some truck drivers shouldn’t be allowed to push a pram or a wheelbarrow because they are well… ‘thick’ if that gets to you, I don’t really care, I’m not your nanny - grow up - get a grip. You are not exposing anything other than your own ability to misquote, misunderstand and take offence where no personal offence was intended against any specific individual. Perhaps, you lack self esteem, if so - go speak to a counsellor, get some therapy, but do please stop trying to trip me up with your bollox about grammar etc. Your no where near as smart as you think you are, you’re not running rings around anyone.

There you go again. I wasn’t misquoting you, you chose to ignore that fact, and by saying you meant no personal insult, doesn’t mean you haven’t crudely insulted an entire sector of workers… with the natural assumption that you are in some way better than they are. Yet once again you can’t resist insulting me personally, instead of crafting any sort of reasonable reply.

I am starting to think your name might actually be Walter Mitty. After all, we now hear you got bored with driving, to “…operate several other computers around me, on one I’m knocking up applications in php where a dot in the wrong place can corrupt all, on another machine I’m writing up news articles that appear in newspapers, mags, websites etc, on another machine I’m editing photos to go with the articles, on another I’m editing video, on another machine I’m dealing with anywhere between a few dozen and a few hundred of my own incoming email messages…” Now, apparently you want to revisit the tarmac… How lucky we stupid, ill educated truck drivers are to have you amongst us!

Boomerang Dave:
FWIW, I have offered stacks of ideas, potential methods of improving road safety both in this thread and in the other thread I mentioned. What have you suggested to improve matters? Try doing that instead of crying into your soup because I’m not interested in responding to your personal ■■■■■■■■ about how bright you think you are compared to me. That’s not the mission here is it?

Ah, I didn’t realise you were on a mission. I was responding to your deluded post where you basically said, in your opinion, that most truck drivers don’t meet your educational standards, that others can’t reason with your logic, that some people quite reasonably replying to your posts, " …have already provided very good reasoning why arrest is justified."

Boomerang Dave:
The idea is to discuss better ways to improve road safety - to which so far you appear to have offered nothing.

Do a search, I think you’ll find I’ve contributed far more practical advice and comment, based on real world experience, that your self appointed “expert” comments.

Boomerang Dave:
Furthermore, there is no need for you to quote the entire blocks of text which I wrote… I know what I wrote. It just clogs up the page unnecessarily.

Only someone as self obsessed as you appear to be would believe that my quoting your text is to aid your memory.

I have done that, quite reasonably, each time, so that others visiting this discussion can see the comments being made in context. And judge it for themselves! (Of course, you don’t believe truck drivers are intelligent enough to do that, which may explain your position.)

Boomerang Dave:
Now all that said, I have blocked Carryfast, mainly because he just writes the same dull single sentences and fills up the screen with the same continuous rants. I even think he’s entitled to his opinion, there is nothing I can or want to do to stop him having his say, I’m just not interested in what he says. I’m just as entitled to ignore him as you are to have you say. Just a shame you are focussing on me - rather than putting your own points forward.

And that is your response isn’t it. Ignore those that you can’t argue with.

I have been putting my points forward, it’s just that they are not the points you want to hear as they respond to your comments, not your personal agenda here.

Boomerang Dave:
Now if you want to come back at me with lots more bollox about how smart you are and how grammatically challenged I am - go for it. Before you do though, consider these minor factors. When I write my post into this thread, I blind type at however many words per min… at the same time, I am operating several other computers around me, on one I’m knocking up applications in php where a dot in the wrong place can corrupt all, on another machine I’m writing up news articles that appear in newspapers, mags, websites etc, on another machine I’m editing photos to go with the articles, on another I’m editing video, on another machine I’m dealing with anywhere between a few dozen and a few hundred of my own incoming email messages… many of which get less attention than you are getting. I then manage the email accounts of umpty other users and I set out the ROP - that’s Run of Paper for a well known title. In the small windows of opportunity that appear between, I’m knocking out posts in here. They won’t all be brilliantly written, most will have errors in them… like I really care what you think about me personally.

Yes Walter! Now have you taken your tablets, because your mum will be wanting you to have an afternoon nap sometime soon.

Boomerang Dave:
Over to you - what would you do to improve things for road users - including cyclists?

Well before I do that, could you possibly start answering, in a measured manner, some of the points I made with regard to your insulting posts?

the maoster:
Ok, one last response because…

How amazingly gracious and generous of you.

Have you anything at all to add about road safety or are you completely obsessed by me - are you my little stalker?

Have you got any grown up ideas about how we can save life?

Now… where’s that tumble weed smiley…?

The ignore list. Three more added… it’s like looking at a list of pedigree ■■■■■.

I wonder how many mods have an aching finger by holding it poised over the “Thread Locked” button? :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Boomerang Dave:

the maoster:
Ok, one last response because…

How amazingly gracious and generous of you.

Have you anything at all to add about road safety or are you completely obsessed by me - are you my little stalker?

Have you got any grown up ideas about how we can save life?

Now… where’s that tumble weed smiley…?

The ignore list. Three more added… it’s like looking at a list of pedigree ■■■■■.

You joined on July the 7th of this year and you’ve managed to put how many other posters on your “ignore list!”

Have you ever considered that you may be the problem, rather than the solution? God help whoever you have to double man a truck with… Oh no, that’s another of your flights of fantasy. You’re only doing it for a bit of fun, despite the haulage firms you’ve spoken to crying out for your services at £20 per hour.

Dream on Walter, dream on.

@Boomerang Dave:
If I may offer some gentle critique, I find your posts very enlightening and the points on dutch cycle sytems is very interesting as well, posible future solution maybe and there was a segment on a dutch roundabout solution on Route Masters last week.

Anyway earlier you mentioned you write your posts blind as you have a lot of other distractions and multiple things going on which may be the cause of some of the issues you are having with other posters here. Perhaps proof reading them first might help as the discussions get very ‘Ad Hominem’ when the thread becomes more about the posters than the subject at hand.

Course with internet forums its very hard to put across any tone or inflections in the written word, smileys can help but only to a certain extent. Perhaps softening your posts a little and not rising to others if they disagree might help as at times it appears you don’t just need to be right but everyone else to be wrong.

Also this ignore list thing is just silly as some will wear being on your ignore list as a badge of honour and make a joke of it and also threads on this forum will appear empty and too disjointed to make anysense to you.

Anyway hope this doesn’t pop me on your ignore list after all didn’t a wise man once say something like ‘i may not agree with what you have to say but will fight for your right to say it’, obviously he wasn’t married.

Back on topic, how about introducing a speed limit for cylists.