I’ve stopped driving since October just had a look around indeed and it’s worse than ever, barely any jobs over £14 per hour class 1, one was offering £15 for class 1 with crane experience (mandatory) and ADR, CPCS and CSCS cards preferable…
Even night shifts are at most £16 per hour
and I thought Culina was bad at £15 on days
Poor isn’t it.
So what hourly rate is considered good
I don’t know, there must be plenty of takers otherwise it wouldn’t be down from the summer at least for West midlands
look to the drivers you cant call em jaz anymore because the letters are in the name. Same as happened last time wages fell
It’s simply mileage rate expressed as an hourly rate based on trucks only actually rolling and thereby earning anything, for 9 hours, often less, max per shift.
It will get worse as more freight is removed from the roads and truck mileages are reduced and more drivers are looking for less work.
Certainly seems that there is less work around.
Import and export tonnages are all down from a few years ago…we don’t need so many trucks and not so many drivers because we don’t move so much stuff around.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/port-freight-annual-statistics-2023/port-freight-annual-statistics-2023-cargo-inforhttps://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/road-freight-statistics-2023/domestic-road-freight-statistics-united-kingdom-2023mation
Yeah drivers will take it because some have no choice they need to work. Those that can afford to can pick and choose to some degree.
Maybe because it’s unusually quiet for this period work wise they’re getting away with lower rates?
Depends. What might be considered a good rate in Manchester maybe considered dross in London?
Also what work you’re doing I suppose.
Edit. Just bear in mind that in April the national minimum wage or living wage whatever will be £12.21.
Then look at some of the jobs on Indeed lol
I’m finding jobs for forklift drivers £13 to £13.50 depending on experience, 8 am. to 4:30pm. No way on God’s green earth would I take a £14 trucking job over this one!
I get your point there set hours for more less same wage. Can plan a little know your be home at a certain time every day etc…
But be many others who just want to drive a truck no matter what the pay
And those who because of the low pay will drag the job out take there time to bump there wage up.
Wouldn’t suprise me if there’s jobs out there paying less
We’re still moving stuff around but increasingly massive amounts of it are going by rail taking advantage of cheap red diesel at the expense of the NHS.While yet more passenger services are held up with the message we have a slower train ahead of us.They mean a freight train ahead of us.
Meanwhile more trucks are doing fewer miles and are instead being used for mobile warehouse space.Which means drivers can’t be paid at class 1 rates to sit on a dock bay or do other duties for 2 hours or more.
A truck and its driver are an economic liability when they aren’t actually rolling and moving freight from A to B.
No.
Don’t let mere facts get in the way of an “expert” statement.
I know…I know…
But maybe he read a Gov strategic plan for rail, from a few decades ago, and assumed that it had all been delivered?
can you even send things red star anymore?
Once again displaying a complete lack of knowledge of the financial aspect of running a haulage business. Unsurprising considering the previoulsy demonstrated inability to grasp how Financial Standing works.
The industry has changed, it’s not just about the “haulage”, it’s about the overall “logistics”.
As far as general haulage goes, “The Big Boys” have hoovered up the smaller outfits, and due to economies of scale they can afford to run very large fleets on smaller profit margins because the warehousing and distribution is where the money is.
That, plus everyone bought into the “driver shortage” idea, resulting in “free HGV licences”, courtesy of government “bootcamps”, together with greatly simplified testing procedures, meaning more people are more easily able to achieve the lowered standards to pass, all with little or no financial outlay of their own.
End result is that there are a hundred drivers chasing every vacancy, many of whom have little or no experience, so naturally wages are driven down.
Tell us more about the compound growth in rail freight, quarter on quarter, 2022-2024.I can play the numbers game too.
I can see no “massive increase in rail freight” over the past 5 years or so.
I daresay that cherry picking some smaller q data might give a different result, but there is no visible trend that is apparent here. https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/wtigfpqc/freight-rail-usage-and-performance-jul-sep-2024.pdf