WTD & Rules & Regulations

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Hi all,

Firstly, I apologise if I come across as a bit dim, I’m struggling to get my head round WTD & Rules & Regulations, I’m hoping it’s not as difficult as I’m interpreting it, Google information is confusing me, therefore, to try and make it simple for me to get my head round, can anyone answer the following please?

What’s the difference between EU & UK (domestic) WTD?

If i understand correctly, HGV driver’s can only driver up to10hrs per day, with a minimum 9hr rest period, is this correct?

HGV drivers can work up to 15hrs per day, but driving must be limited to 10hrs maximum, is this correct?

9hr daily driving x 5 = 45hrs weekly, x 2 weeks = 90hrs fortnightly legal limit, is this correct?

15hrs driving + daily work x 5 = 72hrs weekly, x 2 weeks = 144hrs, is this legal, if so, where is the driver’s weekly rest period.

As I say, I do apologise if I come across as a bit dim, I’ve narrowed it down above hoping it’s that simple (I very much doubt it is, which is why I’m struggling to get my head round it)

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Career Builder:
Hi all,

Firstly, I apologise if I come across as a bit dim, I’m struggling to get my head round WTD & Rules & Regulations, I’m hoping it’s not as difficult as I’m interpreting it, Google information is confusing me, therefore, to try and make it simple for me to get my head round, can anyone answer the following please?
Your questions do not relate to the WTD they relate to the drivers hours regulations.
Drivers have to work to both the drivers hours and tachograph regulations and the road transport working time regulations (WTD).

What’s the difference between EU & UK (domestic) WTD?
Basically unless there’s an EU exemption for the job you do or the vehicle you drive you’re on EU regulations.

If i understand correctly, HGV driver’s can only driver up to10hrs per day, with a minimum 9hr rest period, is this correct?
On EU regulations you can drive 9 hours per shift, this can be extended to 10 hours twice a week.
You should have 11 hours daily rest which can be reduced to 9 hours 3 times between weekly rest periods.

HGV drivers can work up to 15hrs per day, but driving must be limited to 10hrs maximum, is this correct?
On EU regulations you can do 13 hours per day from the start of the shift to the end of the shift, you can have 3 reduced daily rest periods between weekly rest periods, a reduced daily rest period means you can do a 15 hour shift.

9hr daily driving x 5 = 45hrs weekly, x 2 weeks = 90hrs fortnightly legal limit, is this correct?
You can drive a maximum of 56 hours per week and 90 hours per fortnight.

15hrs driving + daily work x 5 = 72hrs weekly, x 2 weeks = 144hrs, is this legal, if so, where is the driver’s weekly rest period.
Sorry I don’t understand what you mean, you can do a maximum of 144 hours between weekly rest periods.

Don’t worry about not understanding the regulations, it can take a while to get your head round them but feel free to ask questions about anything you’re not sure about.

Drivers’ hours and tachographs: goods vehicles

EU Drivers’ hours and tachographs: goods vehicles (Simplified)

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Hi tachograph,

Thanks for your detailed replies, I’m sure I’ll be back with more questions.

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Trucknet-UK member muckles wrote a cheat-sheet of the regulations that will be helpful to you whilst learning the regulations.

You can find it here

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Hi tachograph

The infomation in that link, is the best piece of information I’ve ever come across,thank you so, so much

As mentioned within the thread, I’ve sent muckles a PM for a copy

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Basics EU:
13hrs max working time increased to 15hrs 3x a week (11 hours rest which can be reduced to 9hrs 3x a week)
9hrs driving a day increased to 10hrs twice a week
56 hrs max driving in one week
90hrs max driving in a fortnight
45hrs weekly rest which can be reduced to 24hrs every other week
After 4.5hrs driving a 45 min break is needed (can be split 15min then 30min)

Gb domestic is a little simpler (pcv… sorry i assumed hgv was the same)
16hrs max working time a day
10hrs daily driving max
11hrs daily rest which can be reduced to 8.5hrs 3x week
24hrs rest required after the 13th shift
5.5hrs driving then you need a 30min break

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mark1284:
Basics EU:
15hrs max working time
13 hours maximum working time can be extended to 15 hours 3 times between weekly rest periods.

9hrs driving a day increased to 10hrs twice a week
90hrs max driving in a fortnight
11 hours rest which can be reduced to 9hrs 3x a week in a 24hr period
11 hours daily rest can be reduced to 9 hours 3 times between weekly rest periods.
(The 24 hour period bit is just wrong)

45hrs weekly rest which can be reduced to 24hrs but needs compensating on the third week
Compensation for reduced weekly rest periods must be paid back by the end of the third week after the week the reduced weekly rest period was counted for.

After 4.5hrs driving a 45 min break is needed

Gb domestic is a little simpler
16hrs max working time a day
11 hours maximum duty time in a 24 hour period.

10hrs daily driving max
11hrs daily rest which can be reduced to 8.5hrs 3x week (i think this is inbetween shifts not within a 24hr period like the EU)
Wrong

24hrs rest required after the 13th shift
Wrong

5.5hrs driving then you need a 30min break
Wrong

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Correct :smiley:

You’re confusing the UK domestic PCV rules with the UK domestic HGV rules.

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^^^^ that went well. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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Yeah thats right tachograph lol half asleep when i typed it

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Yeah sorry i was referring to the pcv gb domestic hours

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Ive changed a few bits lol

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