Sorry guys, but would you please give some explanation to the above and how they interact with each other. I thought I had it correct but having read a post somewhere on here, It’s confused me.
Lusk:
Sorry guys, but would you please give some explanation to the above and how they interact with each other. I thought I had it correct but having read a post somewhere on here, It’s confused me.
What some people refer to as the RTD is the Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations 2005, which is what drivers and crew work to, by WTD I assume you mean the general working time regulations (Working Time Regulations 1998) for factory/warehouse/shop operatives.
Apart from a few things that affect everyone such as holiday entitlements ec’t that are stipulated in the Working Time Regulations 1998 they don’t interact with each other, it’s not so much interaction it’s more that parts of the general WTD have been replaced specifically for road transport workers.
Some confusion can be created because the RT(WT)R are often referred to as the WTD, some people prefer the title RTD, some like myself prefer the correct 
title of RT(WT)R or RT(WT)R 2005, and some just call everything the WTD.
And they reckon POA gets confusing 
Perhaps if you said what confused you we may be able to give a more specific answer 
tachograph:
What some people refer to as the RTD is the Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations 2005, which is what drivers and crew work to, by WTD I assume you mean the general working time regulations (Working Time Regulations 1998) for factory/warehouse/shop operatives.
Right, so drivers under the EU (Domestic/AETR) Rules are then clasified under Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations 2005
tachograph:
Apart from a few things that affect everyone such as holiday entitlements ec’t that are stipulated in the Working Time Regulations 1998 they don’t interact with each other, it’s not so much interaction it’s more that parts of the general WTD have been replaced specifically for road transport workers.
Got it.
tachograph:
Some confusion can be created because the RT(WT)R are often referred to as the WTD, some people prefer the title RTD, some like myself prefer the correct
I understand. I think what caused me this initial confusion was that I was in some tranport office somewhere and up on the wall was a drivers infringement league table and there were three columns - RTD - WTD and then a total percentage coulmn. I did not see where WTD came into it and I still dont based upon your answer.
tachograph:
And they reckon POA gets confusing
Dont start on that 
tachograph:
Perhaps if you said what confused you we may be able to give a more specific answer
I’m tired so not fully with it, but thanks for your comments and have a think about it later on. I think the man thing was the driver league table (as mentioned above) and the terminology which you have referred to.
Lusk:
tachograph:
What some people refer to as the RTD is the Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations 2005, which is what drivers and crew work to, by WTD I assume you mean the general working time regulations (Working Time Regulations 1998) for factory/warehouse/shop operatives.Right, so drivers under the EU (Domestic/AETR) Rules are then clasified under Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations 2005
Sorry I wasn’t very clear 
Drivers working to EU regulations come under the RT(WT)R 2005, drivers on domestic regulations come under the Working Time Regulations 1998.
The RT(WT)R or RTD if you prefer is an EU thing, and not to be confused with anything remotely sensible
Lusk:
tachograph:
Some confusion can be created because the RT(WT)R are often referred to as the WTD, some people prefer the title RTD, some like myself prefer the correctI understand. I think what caused me this initial confusion was that I was in some tranport office somewhere and up on the wall was a drivers infringement league table and there were three columns - RTD - WTD and then a total percentage coulmn. I did not see where WTD came into it and I still dont based upon your answer.
I’ve no idea what that would have been about, you can’t get infringements on domestic rules only EU rules so …
So if you can’t get an infringement on domestic, how is the driver “reprimanded” when breaching these rules or is it just a case that they are not enforced like the EU ones?
Lusk:
So if you can’t get an infringement on domestic, how is the driver “reprimanded” when breaching these rules or is it just a case that they are not enforced like the EU ones?
A driver CANNOT get infringements for the normal WTD which can be fully opted out of anyway
So Rog, are you saying that a driver following domestic duties can not get into trouble for disobeying rules? I must be misunderstanding you
Lusk:
So Rog, are you saying that a driver following domestic duties can not get into trouble for disobeying rules? I must be misunderstanding you
They can get infringements for not obeying UK domestic driving rules but NOT for anything else
Under the normal WTD (not to be confused with the RTD) there are no must or must not rules
tachograph:
drivers on domestic regulations come under the Working Time Regulations 1998.
How do you get that conclusion? I’ve read that before but can’t find anything to support it?
Mike-C:
tachograph:
drivers on domestic regulations come under the Working Time Regulations 1998.How do you get that conclusion? I’ve read that before but can’t find anything to support it?
Drivers of vehicles that are exempt from the community drivers regulations don’t come under the RT(WT)R 2005, article 3.