Hello,
looking for advice here, just started first driving job, i drive a 7.5 ton and start at 8am, its runs to the docks bout 2 mile away and various drops to boats, its meant to be 5pm finish but can easily be 6.7.8 pm finishes sometimes up to 11 pm.
the office take 1 hr off for dinner so what im asking is say im put for dinner at 1230 and take the 1 hr is that me covered for the 9 hrs for breaks and after 5 pm do i take another 15 mins?
thanks in advance.
You could always have 2 half hr breaks one around lunch time and one mid afternoon.
mundyman:
Hello,looking for advice here, just started first driving job, i drive a 7.5 ton and start at 8am, its runs to the docks bout 2 mile away and various drops to boats, its meant to be 5pm finish but can easily be 6.7.8 pm finishes sometimes up to 11 pm.
the office take 1 hr off for dinner so what im asking is say im put for dinner at 1230 and take the 1 hr is that me covered for the 9 hrs for breaks and after 5 pm do i take another 15 mins?
thanks in advance.
RTD breaks require a minimum of 15 mins before 6 hours of work/drive have been exceeded
Tacho driving breaks have the 4.5 hour break rule
If you start at 0800 have 1 hour break from 1230 to 1330 then work/drive you have until 1930pm before another 15 mins break is needed for the RTD
This is assuming you do not need a driving time break before that
If you never drive for more than 4.5 hours between 0800 and 1400 then you could take a 1 hour break between 1400 and 1500 which would then mean no more RTD break (15 mins) will be needed until at least 2100 unless 4.5 hours of driving time got there first
mundyman:
Hello,looking for advice here, just started first driving job, i drive a 7.5 ton and start at 8am, its runs to the docks bout 2 mile away and various drops to boats, its meant to be 5pm finish but can easily be 6.7.8 pm finishes sometimes up to 11 pm.
the office take 1 hr off for dinner so what im asking is say im put for dinner at 1230 and take the 1 hr is that me covered for the 9 hrs for breaks and after 5 pm do i take another 15 mins?
thanks in advance.
Well if you had 1 hour for dinner it would be enough break for any length shift, but if you want to comply with the RT(WT)R you should not at any-time during the shift work more than 6 hours without a break.
So if you start at 08:00 and have a 1 hour break at 12:30 then restart work at 13:30 you would need another 15 minute break no later than 19:30 if you’re still working.
You’ve titled the thread “WTD breaks up to 9hr shift” but then mention that you can finish at 11 pm which if you start at 08:00 is obviously 15 hours, so I’m a tad confused.
The 1 hour dinner break would be enough for a 9 hour shift but not for a 15 hour shift.
Having said that, none of this is taking into consideration any driving breaks you may have.
reason for the topic title thats the normal length of shift but sometimes late boats after 5pm need done, i fully understand the 4.5 then 45 min and 4.5 hr driving, its the wtd break i dont understand, havent had 4.5 hrs driving mixed yet, it rarely gets over 3 hrs driving for the day.
mundyman:
reason for the topic title thats the normal length of shift but sometimes late boats after 5pm need done, i fully understand the 4.5 then 45 min and 4.5 hr driving, its the wtd break i dont understand, havent had 4.5 hrs driving mixed yet, it rarely gets over 3 hrs driving for the day.
Sorry I’ve just re-read your fist post and can see where the title is coming from now.
If you have any say in when you take your breaks it may be worthwhile splitting them up a bit.
Basically as far as the WTD breaks are concerned:
You should not work more than 6 hours without a break of at-least 15 minutes.
If your total working time is more than 6 hours but not more than 9 hours you should have a total break/breaks of at-least 30 minutes.
If your total working time is more than 9 hours you should have a total of 45 minutes break/breaks.
These breaks don’t have to be taken in one go, they can be split into separate breaks of at-least 15 minutes each.
Also wtd breaks will count for the driving break where appropriate and vice versa, though by the sounds of it that doesn’t apply to your job as you don’t need a driving break.
ok thanks for the replies, also what would happen if i had 1 hr break 1230 to 130pm then worked on to say 830pm, which would be waiting for boat to dock, when would i be ok for the 15min break as ive read in other forums, drivers cant have the 15 min at end of shift.
mundyman:
ok thanks for the replies, also what would happen if i had 1 hr break 1230 to 130pm then worked on to say 830pm, which would be waiting for boat to dock, when would i be ok for the 15min break as ive read in other forums, drivers cant have the 15 min at end of shift.
if you finished your 1 hour break at 13:30 you would need to start another 15 minute break no later than 19:30, this is because you should not work more than 6 hours without a 15 minute break, 13:30 to 19:30 is 6 hours so that’s as far as you can legally go without a 15 minute break.
AS far as not having the break at the end of the shift is concerned, lets say your working a 13 hour shift so you should have a break/breaks totalling at-least 45 minutes which can if you wish be taken in two or more breaks of at-least 15 minutes each.
This break or breaks must interrupt the working time so cannot be at the immediate start or finish of the shift, however as you’ve already had a 1 hour break at 12:30 you’ve had all the break you’re legally required to have for the shift except for any breaks required for the 6 hour rule, so having a break at the end of shift wouldn’t matter in this case, though it would be a bit pointless taking an unnecessary break at the end of the shift unless you was trying to kill time 
mundyman:
ok thanks for the replies, also what would happen if i had 1 hr break 1230 to 130pm then worked on to say 830pm, which would be waiting for boat to dock, when would i be ok for the 15min break as ive read in other forums, drivers cant have the 15 min at end of shift.
If you know how long the boat will be then you could record POA which does not count for the RTD 6 hour break rule or, if you get paid, then simply put it on break whilst waiting
mundyman:
ok thanks for the replies, also what would happen if i had 1 hr break 1230 to 130pm then worked on to say 830pm, which would be waiting for boat to dock, when would i be ok for the 15min break as ive read in other forums, drivers cant have the 15 min at end of shift.
Like i said earlier have 2 x 1/2 hr breaks that could cover you all day and your boss would be happy as you are only booking 1 hr of breaks.
Thanking you for the replies, its made more sense now. 
would i be right if i took 30mins break between 12-2 pm, then 15 mins before 5pm then 15 mins after if im working on till mid evening? 
mundyman:
would i be right if i took 30mins break between 12-2 pm, then 15 mins before 5pm then 15 mins after if im working on till mid evening?
That would be ok but you get stopped 1 hour each day so you might as well take 2 x 30s or a 45 and then a 15 but that will depend on what driving time breaks will be needed
Thanks ROG your a star.