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P Stoff:
I don’t know how much is bravado and how much is macho [zb] but if I have to endure a waiting room or tea van and listen to all the " I told them" " I’m not doing it" " I said you can stick that" etc etc it makes my heart sink. Do a good conscientious job and you will get to choose work and be placed in better work. If your working for an agency and you constantly spout Red Ken crap they are going to place you in the crap jobs.

I had a nice job in a nice little firm. They sold out to a big company earlier in the year. I lasted a month and couldn’t stand all the crap and in cab boxes. No communication with office, just bongs and jobs on the car cube. I left. No dramas, no paddies. It’s now their busiest time for two months. They phoned me a couple of weeks ago, did I want any work. I declined but I left a door open.

I die a bit every time I see these hero’s powering through yards and depots like idiots. I die with all this tailgating of each other and other road users. I felt very disillusioned with the response to my A9 complete ■■■■ post last week. The queue jumping, the filming of someone having a nightmare reverse instead of helping. I die at some of the subjects on this forum. Someone asks a perfectly sensible question and he’s either a troll or risks ridicule. Banter it’s called nowadays. I knew it a bullying in my day.

Knights of the road, drivers used to be called. Now we are thought of as dirty tear arses who keep killing people on roads. I have no doubt I will now face hostility but you know what I couldn’t give a stuff. I do a good job for people I want to work for. I could walk back into any company I have previously worked for. I have never been sacked or even received a warning. If that’s not having balls I can live with that.

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Are you sure you’re in the right job like if you have a thought you die a little is that not a bit over the top, there’s one or two threads hear that might help you

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I think that a lot of people’s attitudes in Northern England are very different to those in most other parts of the country.

Many of us in the North-West, Yorkshire and the North-East are sons of men who were miners, steelworkers or shipyard workers.

Growing up as children and teenagers, we can remember seeing our fathers treated terribly by management, business owners and governments. Literally 100,000’s of miners, steelworkers and shipyard workers (our Dad’s) were [zb] on and lost their jobs and
livelihoods in the 1970’s/1980’s and 1990’s. We grew up seeing all of this, and the effects that it had on our parents and communities.

This, I believe is why drivers (and workers in general) in many northern towns and cities are much more likely to have the attitudes that the likes of eagerbeaver and I have. We’ve seen our fathers and uncles messed about and treated like [zb]…and we refuse to be treated like that.

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P Stoff:
I don’t know how much is bravado and how much is macho [zb] but if I have to endure a waiting room or tea van and listen to all the " I told them" " I’m not doing it" " I said you can stick that" etc etc it makes my heart sink. Do a good conscientious job and you will get to choose work and be placed in better work. If your working for an agency and you constantly spout Red Ken crap they are going to place you in the crap jobs.

I had a nice job in a nice little firm. They sold out to a big company earlier in the year. I lasted a month and couldn’t stand all the crap and in cab boxes. No communication with office, just bongs and jobs on the car cube. I left. No dramas, no paddies. It’s now their busiest time for two months. They phoned me a couple of weeks ago, did I want any work. I declined but I left a door open.

I die a bit every time I see these hero’s powering through yards and depots like idiots. I die with all this tailgating of each other and other road users. I felt very disillusioned with the response to my A9 complete ■■■■ post last week. The queue jumping, the filming of someone having a nightmare reverse instead of helping. I die at some of the subjects on this forum. Someone asks a perfectly sensible question and he’s either a troll or risks ridicule. Banter it’s called nowadays. I knew it a bullying in my day.

Knights of the road, drivers used to be called. Now we are thought of as dirty tear arses who keep killing people on roads. I have no doubt I will now face hostility but you know what I couldn’t give a stuff. I do a good job for people I want to work for. I could walk back into any company I have previously worked for. I have never been sacked or even received a warning. If that’s not having balls I can live with that.

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Jeez H mate, so many points to answer. :smiley:

I can’t be arsed with rdc heroes either, all gob and no action, but tbf just because some drivers are not prepared to put up with pretentious corporate ■■■■■■■■ does not automatically put them in the same category, it’s the rights and wrongs of how they deal with said bs that determines the prudent ones, and that aspect all comes down to personal opinion.

My approach to my work is a direct reflection of how I am treated, firms in the past I have given 101% others not so much.
Reap and sow situation.

I also look with contempt at some of the pricks who have managed to blag a Class 1, but on the other hand there are still plenty of good lads around.

The forum?.. What do you expect mate, hairy arsed truckers of all different levels of intellect.
Transport has always been full of ■■■■■■■■■■ and banter,.
As for bullying …now that is a seriously big word not to be used lightly imo, and anyone who can not take a bit of banter without running crying to their Mams with their nappy round their ankles, shouting ‘‘Bullies’’ should not be behind the wheel of a truck…you’ve done the job a while mate afaik, so you should know what I mean, and that it is true. :bulb:

Knights of the road ?
Do you not think that was just a myth?
Ok once over there was more help and empathy between drivers, but as I said there are still many good drivers about, and the ‘Teararse on the limiter not time to stop for a ■■■■ heroes’ will be well on towards their first heart attack anyway…so who gives a ■■■■ about those pricks anyway.

As for your A9 thread, …I was one of the few who backed you up on it, but just let it go mate and move on
I have had loads of stick and crap chucked at me on here but I just laugh it off…unless it involves my family and/or crosses the line (had a couple of those also from the more up market pricks on here) so I couldn’t give a flying one basically, so maybe you should do the same bud.
The more you appear to be upset on here, the more crap you get :bulb:
Not trying to be clever here mate btw, just answering your point.

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robroy:

P Stoff:
I don’t know how much is bravado and how much is macho [zb] but if I have to endure a waiting room or tea van and listen to all the " I told them" " I’m not doing it" " I said you can stick that" etc etc it makes my heart sink. Do a good conscientious job and you will get to choose work and be placed in better work. If your working for an agency and you constantly spout Red Ken crap they are going to place you in the crap jobs.

I had a nice job in a nice little firm. They sold out to a big company earlier in the year. I lasted a month and couldn’t stand all the crap and in cab boxes. No communication with office, just bongs and jobs on the car cube. I left. No dramas, no paddies. It’s now their busiest time for two months. They phoned me a couple of weeks ago, did I want any work. I declined but I left a door open.

I die a bit every time I see these hero’s powering through yards and depots like idiots. I die with all this tailgating of each other and other road users. I felt very disillusioned with the response to my A9 complete ■■■■ post last week. The queue jumping, the filming of someone having a nightmare reverse instead of helping. I die at some of the subjects on this forum. Someone asks a perfectly sensible question and he’s either a troll or risks ridicule. Banter it’s called nowadays. I knew it a bullying in my day.

Knights of the road, drivers used to be called. Now we are thought of as dirty tear arses who keep killing people on roads. I have no doubt I will now face hostility but you know what I couldn’t give a stuff. I do a good job for people I want to work for. I could walk back into any company I have previously worked for. I have never been sacked or even received a warning. If that’s not having balls I can live with that.

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Jeez H mate, so many points to answer. :smiley:

I can’t be arsed with rdc heroes either, all gob and no action, but tbf just because some drivers are not prepared to put up with pretentious corporate [zb] does not automatically put them in the same category, it’s the rights and wrongs of how they deal with said bs that determines the prudent ones, and that aspect all comes down to personal opinion.

My approach to my work is a direct reflection of how I am treated, firms in the past I have given 101% others not so much.
Reap and sow situation.

I also look with contempt at some of the pricks who have managed to blag a Class 1, but on the other hand there are still plenty of good lads around.

The forum?.. What do you expect mate, hairy arsed truckers of all different levels of intellect.
Transport has always been full of ■■■■■■■■■■ and banter,.
As for bullying …now that is a seriously big word not to be used lightly imo, and anyone who can not take a bit of banter without running crying to their Mams with their nappy round their ankles, shouting ‘‘Bullies’’ should not be behind the wheel of a truck…you’ve done the job a while mate afaik, so you should know what I mean, and that it is true. :bulb:

Knights of the road ?
Do you not think that was just a myth?
Ok once over there was more help and empathy between drivers, but as I said there are still many good drivers about, and the ‘Teararse on the limiter not time to stop for a ■■■■ heroes’ will be well on towards their first heart attack anyway…so who gives a [zb] about those pricks anyway.

As for your A9 thread, …I was one of the few who backed you up on it, but just let it go mate and move on
I have had loads of stick and crap chucked at me on here but I just laugh it off…unless it involves my family and/or crosses the line (had a couple of those also from the more up market pricks on here) so I couldn’t give a flying one basically, so maybe you should do the same bud.
The more you appear to be upset on here, the more crap you get :bulb:
Not trying to be clever here mate btw, just answering your point.

Fair one. I’m not upset. It just saddens me
It is wrong how drivers are treated by some firms. I would back a one day strike if I thought everyone would do it to highlight our plight. Sadly it would never happen.

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I don’t agree with bringing the truck back after a phone call but i have respect for his ways
Going by some of the posts here it’s no wonder things will never change they paint it in a way you can tell they have no balls and will spend their life been taken advantage off
Its a simple thing to work out good drivers at their job don’t have to worry about walking out why because they are in demand and can pick up a job anytime
The average driver don’t have this swag and so they put up with the crap and are very happy to do so
It’s the real world and there will always be a difference that’s life some are good some are below par

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Lancsdriver70:
I think that a lot of people’s attitudes in Northern England are very different to those in most other parts of the country.

Are you saying that southerners take it up the arse and drink shandy then?

:wink:

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I’m in the Midlands so we just fondle a bit and drink red bull

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P Stoff:
I don’t know how much is bravado and how much is macho [zb] but if I have to endure a waiting room or tea van and listen to all the " I told them" " I’m not doing it" " I said you can stick that" etc etc it makes my heart sink. Do a good conscientious job and you will get to choose work and be placed in better work. If your working for an agency and you constantly spout Red Ken crap they are going to place you in the crap jobs.

I had a nice job in a nice little firm. They sold out to a big company earlier in the year. I lasted a month and couldn’t stand all the crap and in cab boxes. No communication with office, just bongs and jobs on the car cube. I left. No dramas, no paddies. It’s now their busiest time for two months. They phoned me a couple of weeks ago, did I want any work. I declined but I left a door open.

I die a bit every time I see these hero’s powering through yards and depots like idiots. I die with all this tailgating of each other and other road users. I felt very disillusioned with the response to my A9 complete ■■■■ post last week. The queue jumping, the filming of someone having a nightmare reverse instead of helping. I die at some of the subjects on this forum. Someone asks a perfectly sensible question and he’s either a troll or risks ridicule. Banter it’s called nowadays. I knew it a bullying in my day.

I didn’t particularly agree or disagree with your ■■■■ on the A9 post, but the remainder of what you have to say is bang on. The macho, Billy Big Trucker idiots are cringeworthy in the extreme and it is often embarrassing to hear and see grown men acting as they do. It’s the behaviour of a neanderthal, the kind that you see in town centres on a Friday night that are itching to fight someone just because they can. It’s lost on them that a truck is a piece of equipment used to move goods from one location to another and not a tool to prove one’s machismo and how ‘hard’ one is. That kind of behaviour is usually the preserve of teenagers.

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This is one of the rare times that I agree with Trucknet’s resident Drama Queen, AKA Beaver

Some companies are so far up their own arses with all the telematrics crap that it does them good to get told a few home truths now and then. Whether I would quit halfway through the day and drive back would depend on whether I wanted to stay working there or not, but if I was agency (or just didn’t like the job) and thought they were taking the ■■■■ then I would have no qualms about doing the same.

I treat firms the same way as they treat me, If they act decently and professionally to me I will be decent and professional with them, if they treat me like a I’m a ■■■■ then they can’t really complain if I reply in kind

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Good on you I can’t take a company that has all of its instructions as a first language in Polish thinkand limits there trucks to 51.5 mph seriously. Why should you have to do an assessment unpaid - lets say for an example the trainer there is a complete ■■■■■■■ and fails you for something trivial you loose a days work we all have bills to pay just getting them at there own game.

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Nice to see the majority of folk on here wouldn’t do an assessment free of charge.

I don’t know who these Culina lot think they are? Obviously they really believe that working there is a big deal and drivers who do so should wear a chufty badge whilst attending their steering wheels :unamused:

Never filled out so much paperwork pre shift in all my life :laughing:

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eagerbeaver:
Nice to see the majority of folk on here wouldn’t do an assessment free of charge.

I don’t know who these Culina lot think they are? Obviously they really believe that working there is a big deal and drivers who do so should wear a chufty badge whilst attending their steering wheels :unamused:

Never filled out so much paperwork pre shift in all my life [emoji38]

I wholeheartedly agree with paid assessments. It would send alarm bells ringing of that’s what they want and so I wouldn’t go.

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nightline:
Going by some of the posts here it’s no wonder things will never change they paint it in a way you can tell they have no balls and will spend their life been taken advantage off

Correct.

At one firm that I worked for as a limper, two drivers were told… (on a quiet afternoon, when there were no more runs left to do)… to wash and clean some of the units …then wash and valet the boss’s Range Rover!! …they just did it without a murmur!

No doubt if that boss had asked the same two drivers to cut his toenails, clean the wax from his ears, and polish all of his prized pairs of pointy shoes…they would have just cracked on with that as well!!

Some really need to stand up for themselves, instead of behaving like submissive, tethered goats. Get some self-respect. If people don’t or won’t do that…they will just get taken advantage of… and walked all over!

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Finish the day, inform client “i wont be doing the assessment” inform agency “I wont be doing the assessment” end day, job done. No dummy spitting is necessary

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simcant:
Finish the day, inform client “i wont be doing the assessment” inform agency “I wont be doing the assessment” end day, job done. No dummy spitting is necessary

Not dummy spitting mate. Simple case of not allowing yourself to be treated like a prick. I also fancied a game of golf anyway and I’m not really that arsed about £100 :wink:

( I can tell from your post that you have not grasped the concept of the second sentence) :grimacing:

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treated like a prick and acting like a prick are very different things, see my above

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Well, an interesting development folks!

After checking my bank account today, it would seem that my agency have not paid me for 14 hours last Thursday :open_mouth:
Just phoned the agency now and Culina have refused to pay them for my Thursday & Friday shift last week. The Friday I don’t mind because I only did a couple of hours and took the truck back, however the previous day was completed with no issues whatsoever.

Culina have refused to pay for my Thursday shift as part of some form of ’ compensation ’ for the damaged load and subsequent clean-up from the Saturday before.

Looks like I will be taking my agency to court!

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Set of arse holes, Agency should still pay you regardless of any compensation they see fit to claim against the agency. That is supposedly one of the advantages of working for an agency, they take the problem of a client not paying, shouldn’t be you.

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You really are reinforcing all the “agency driver” stereotypes here, EB.

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eagerbeaver:
Well, an interesting development folks!

After checking my bank account today, it would seem that my agency have not paid me for 14 hours last Thursday :open_mouth:
Just phoned the agency now and Culina have refused to pay them for my Thursday & Friday shift last week. The Friday I don’t mind because I only did a couple of hours and took the truck back, however the previous day was completed with no issues whatsoever.

Culina have refused to pay for my Thursday shift as part of some form of ’ compensation ’ for the damaged load and subsequent clean-up from the Saturday before.

Looks like I will be taking my agency to court!

Just waiting for the terminal bendovers telling you that the agency are in the right and justified because of your ‘militant attitude’ in 3 2 1.
Sue the arse off the bastds, that is what Goods in Transit insurance is for. :bulb: drivers are not there to pay for damage.