Stand firm Drivers .I agree if they want to be officious with pathetic nit picking repay in kind.
discoman:
Big Truck:
discoman:
Big truck.You are wrong, as a police officer, you have the powers to stop and search, and pull a vehicle.
Stop and search of a person walking is different to a car, like chalk and cheese.
A car, motorcycle, truck coach etc, they can be pulled at the officers discretion or not… many a time, I pulled vehicles on a gut feeling no suspicious actions of a driver etc. I didn’t need a reason, however was easy to find a reason to ticket if the guy/woman was being an idiot.
That’s my experience of pulling for no reason … but will let you be right … even though the police do not need a reason to pull a motor driven vehicle.
Yes but you don’t “Have the powers” to stop a vehicle just because your a Police officer,
You need to be able to quote those said powers.If you have a “clued up” individual like what we’d have a “few” of about NI and he asks
“under what law act are you stopping me in my car”■■You then reply
“Just for the craic and because I can”Expect a Solicitors letter and a Police Ombudsman’s interview into the bargain!!!
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In England, it is the law to stop for the police in a motor prolled vehicle… a clued up person, easy to get around. Beucase in England and Wales it is lawful for a police officer to stop for any/no reason. Hey can then request your details … if you do not provide them your liable to arrest.
Police powers to stop a vehicle are covered under section 163 Road Traffic act 1988 as I stated previously along with PACE and terrorist legislation.
Not true that they can just stop you because they are Police AND they are legally bound to quote that power “if” the said motorist asks for it!!!
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Big Truck:
discoman:
Big Truck:
discoman:
Big truck.You are wrong, as a police officer, you have the powers to stop and search, and pull a vehicle.
Stop and search of a person walking is different to a car, like chalk and cheese.
A car, motorcycle, truck coach etc, they can be pulled at the officers discretion or not… many a time, I pulled vehicles on a gut feeling no suspicious actions of a driver etc. I didn’t need a reason, however was easy to find a reason to ticket if the guy/woman was being an idiot.
That’s my experience of pulling for no reason … but will let you be right … even though the police do not need a reason to pull a motor driven vehicle.
Yes but you don’t “Have the powers” to stop a vehicle just because your a Police officer,
You need to be able to quote those said powers.If you have a “clued up” individual like what we’d have a “few” of about NI and he asks
“under what law act are you stopping me in my car”■■You then reply
“Just for the craic and because I can”Expect a Solicitors letter and a Police Ombudsman’s interview into the bargain!!!
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In England, it is the law to stop for the police in a motor prolled vehicle… a clued up person, easy to get around. Beucase in England and Wales it is lawful for a police officer to stop for any/no reason. Hey can then request your details … if you do not provide them your liable to arrest.
Police powers to stop a vehicle are covered under section 163 Road Traffic act 1988 as I stated previously along with PACE and terrorist legislation.
Not true that they can just stop you because they are Police AND they are legally bound to quote that power “if” the said motorist asks for it!!!
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Oh well, it means the 100’s and 1000’s of cars I pulled up must all of been illegal then… I suggest you read up, the law.
AndrewG:
eagerbeaver:
Principles mate. On that basis, is it ok to screw your missus and wipe my knob on your bedroom curtains before I leave?Great thread, its gone from taking the truck back to wiping your knob on the curtains…pmsl…
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I bet many a trucks have crusty curtains … I dread to think what they would find if they swabbed the bed, steering wheels etc. ewww.
First rule of transport management. Never have a go at a driver till…
- he has completed all the jobs
- most importantly of all, your lorry is back in the yard !!
You ignore this rule at your peril !!
Regards. John.
old 67:
First rule of transport management. Never have a go at a driver till…
- he has completed all the jobs
- most importantly of all, your lorry is back in the yard !!
You ignore this rule at your peril !!
Regards. John.
Dead right John. A few decades back it was not uncommon to see lorries abandoned by disgruntled drivers. Usually right next to the phone box they’d just stopped at to phone for instructions and had presumably heard something they didn’t want to hear!
the maoster:
old 67:
First rule of transport management. Never have a go at a driver till…
- he has completed all the jobs
- most importantly of all, your lorry is back in the yard !!
You ignore this rule at your peril !!
Regards. John.Dead right John. A few decades back it was not uncommon to see lorries abandoned by disgruntled drivers. Usually right next to the phone box they’d just stopped at to phone for instructions and had presumably heard something they didn’t want to hear!
Back in the 60’s my dad had an AEC unit, and he kept complaining there was a gearbox problem all to deaf ears.
The gearbox broke in Middlesborough, leaving him with top only. He left the trailer in a layby and came home solo…
yourhavingalarf:
eagerbeaver:
On that basis, is it ok to screw your missus and wipe my knob on your bedroom curtains before I leave?Like…
A girl would be dumb enough to marry Trampy?
I found one, and plenty of others to take her place if she steps out of line.
Re Police powers to stop a vehicle for any reason ( taken from a government website )
- Overview
The police can stop a vehicle for any reason. If they ask you to stop, you should always pull over when it’s safe to do so.You’re breaking the law if you don’t.
If you’re stopped, the police can ask to see your:
driving licence
insurance certificate
MOT certificate
If you don’t have these documents with you, you have 7 days to take them to a police station. You’re breaking the law if you don’t show the requested documents within 7 days.
The police can also give you an on-the-spot fixed penalty notice for many minor offences and make you take a breath test in certain circumstances.
You can also have your vehicle seized if you’re stopped on suspicion of driving without insurance and for some other offences.
eagerbeaver:
Discoman- The agency didn’t even phone me after I took the truck backI reckon they got an ear bashing off Culina
Lol. Now I can see you stressing and waiting by the phone … I hope you get what’s owed whether you need it or not.
The fact that a mechanically propelled vehicle is being driven on a road gives a police officer grounds to stop it (in order to check documents etc). He doesn’t need any suspicion that an offence is being committed, he doesn’t need to see it being driven in any particular way, to see any particular behaviour by the driver or for the vehicle to fit any particular description. The fact that it is a mechanically propelled vehicle being driven on the road is sufficient. Period. Refusal to comply with an instruction to stop is an offence, as is failure or refusal to furnish particulars (i.e. name, address, date of birth etc) or to produce driving licence etc for inspection.
Contrast this with a person simply walking along the road - There is no such blanket power to stop him “just because he is there”, and no offence is committed by refusing to stop or by declining to provide name, address etc (or to answer other questions). In order for the police officer to compel the pedestrian to stop he must have justifiable grounds to do so and (except in certain situations allowed for in legislation) must state those grounds.
Well folks it seems that the agency are fancying a good game of hardball, so it’s off to court we go!
Ooo…
Love a good courtroom drama.
I expect you to be on the stand in yer best bib and tucker shouting ‘I WANT THE TRUTH’.
Of the three that I took to court, two lost and one lost by default for not even showing up.
if anyone can supply the pic of tom cruise doing his speech in the film a few good men feel free
yourhavingalarf:
Ooo…Love a good courtroom drama.
I expect you to be on the stand in yer best bib and tucker shouting ‘I WANT THE TRUTH’.
Of the three that I took to court, two lost and one lost by default for not even showing up.
if anyone can supply the pic of tom cruise doing his speech in the film a few good men feel free
You mean this one
Thank you…
yourhavingalarf:
Ooo…Love a good courtroom drama.
I expect you to be on the stand in yer best bib and tucker shouting ‘I WANT THE TRUTH’.
Of the three that I took to court, two lost and one lost by default for not even showing up.
if anyone can supply the pic of tom cruise doing his speech in the film a few good men feel free
Please could you apply for Judge Grinder to adjudicate this matter.
EB apply to judge@itv.com
Mention me as a big fan and this will be of no help whatsoever.
eagerbeaver:
Well folks it seems that the agency are fancying a good game of hardball, so it’s off to court we go!
Can’t see you winning.
commonrail:
eagerbeaver:
Well folks it seems that the agency are fancying a good game of hardball, so it’s off to court we go!Can’t see you winning.
Nor me 
Punchy Dan:
commonrail:
eagerbeaver:
Well folks it seems that the agency are fancying a good game of hardball, so it’s off to court we go!Can’t see you winning.
Nor me
Best not bother then eh? Pair of ■■■■■■■.