Working time directive question

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Hi can I ask u a question
A debate with someone
On time directive

I need a break at least 15 minutes before 6 hours
30 mins break between 6 and 9 hours and after 9 hours you need to have had a 45min break to meet time directive

And if 4.5 hours after driving needs a straight 45 mins held to meet driving

So I start at

7am other work(doing checks)
7.15 driving
8am other work
9am driving
10am other work
10.45 driving
11am other work
11.30 driving
12 other work

Break 15 mins to meet time directive 5 hours worked
Driving is just 2.hours and 30 mins

1pm driving
2pm other work
2.30 30 mins break

Is this correct without infringements

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There’s no infringements there, just remember that your second break can be anywhere in your shift, as long as you take it. Remember though that you can’t finish on a break, you can’t break the 6hr rule, POA can extend 6hrs by a max of 3hrs.

Hope that’s about as clear as mud [emoji106]

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Thank you I was sure I’m correct I only put the break in last as I stopped writing more just so everyone gets the point

What I can’t understand is you need a 15 min break first and 15 or 30 mins later

But if you done 30 mins and 15mins later is a infringement

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Bigbb09:
But if you done 30 mins and 15mins later is a infringement

You’re thinking of driving time, wtd wouldn’t be an infringement [emoji106]

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Answered you here - viewtopic.php?f=5&t=161895

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I think you have a WTD infringement, you worked 7.5 hours and only had a 15min break. Up to 6 hours work you must have 15min break. 6 hours and 1 second you need 30min break. 7am to 2.30pm is 7.5 hours work minus 15min break is 7.25 hours work. You should of had another 15min break by 1.15pm.

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Karlos75:
I think you have a WTD infringement, you worked 7.5 hours and only had a 15min break. Up to 6 hours work you must have 15min break. 6 hours and 1 second you need 30min break. 7am to 2.30pm is 7.5 hours work minus 15min break is 7.25 hours work. You should of had another 15min break by 1.15pm.

Incorrect answer - perhaps you read it incorrectly

Driver did 5 hours of work/drive
break 15 mins
Driver then took a 30 min break a couple of hours later
So far so good :smiley:

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The second break at 2.30 only needs to be a 15min break but you will HAVE to have it on other work for at least 1 min. as mentioned earlier can not finish on a break

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why would you want to work 5 or 6 hours and only have a 15 minute rest ,it is 2019 you know

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fuse:
why would you want to work 5 or 6 hours and only have a 15 minute rest ,it is 2019 you know

Because during the other times when he is on other work he may well have been eating his dinner, smoking a ■■■, drinking a coffee, watching ■■■■, sleeping on the bunk etc etc.