Working and driving - Legal?

my brother is still at the firm I left in January. They are going through a bit of a tough time and a few, like me have left recently.

To make it worse the TM was taken bad recently as well as some guys going on hols /sick as well, so my brother has been filling in during the week back at base covering all sorts from answering the phone to driving the FLT to sheeting loads etc. Last week he worked from Thursday one week, right through to yesterday, almost 12 hours a day and most of it will be on a goodwill basis to help the other lads out as we both started there in 1998 and its like family. The crunch on Friday night when we had to get one of our loads down to the docks - there was no one with any hours left to take it, so our kid jumps in and takes the truck. OK so he hasn’t driven all week but has been working some hours. I would say that had he put a tacho in at the start of the day at 8am, he would have worked a total of 13 hours, but his daily driving is less than seven.

No one I have asked seems sure of the answer to this?

Is it legal to work on yard duties - and then drive at the end of a week or does none driving work count?

Cant understand why people post stuff like this, it probably isnt legal, BUT some drivers will go out there way to help out. and there is a very good chance no one would ever find out whats been going on.
Unless he was grassed up!

I cant undersatnad why people bother answering posts with no real answer.

No one’s grassing - just asked for advice to get him to make an “informed decision” if he is pushing himself too hard.

Anyone else with some actual knowledge would be helpful. Thanks

brownpaperjake:
I cant undersatnad why people bother answering posts with no real answer.

No one’s grassing - just asked for advice to get him to make an “informed decision” if he is pushing himself too hard.

Anyone else with some actual knowledge would be helpful. Thanks

So he starts at 8 am and finishes at 9 pm and done 7 hours driving, cant see a problem there!

brownpaperjake:
my brother is still at the firm I left in January. They are going through a bit of a tough time and a few, like me have left recently.

To make it worse the TM was taken bad recently as well as some guys going on hols /sick as well, so my brother has been filling in during the week back at base covering all sorts from answering the phone to driving the FLT to sheeting loads etc. Last week he worked from Thursday one week, right through to yesterday, almost 12 hours a day and most of it will be on a goodwill basis to help the other lads out as we both started there in 1998 and its like family. The crunch on Friday night when we had to get one of our loads down to the docks - there was no one with any hours left to take it, so our kid jumps in and takes the truck. OK so he hasn’t driven all week but has been working some hours. I would say that had he put a tacho in at the start of the day at 8am, he would have worked a total of 13 hours, but his daily driving is less than seven.

No one I have asked seems sure of the answer to this?

Is it legal to work on yard duties - and then drive at the end of a week or does none driving work count?

I would say that what he did was legal so grassing doesn’t even come into it :smiley:

From what you’ve said I’m assuming that he never did any driving to EU regulations last week so it’s only since about 08:00 Monday that he’s come under EU regulations for the weekly rest period, if he started at 08:00 Friday after at-least a 9 hour rest and he finished at 21:00 and never started work again for at-least 9 hours, he would need to start a weekly rest period no later than 08:00 Sunday.

Whether or not he’s had the required breaks is another story but that’s up-to him :wink: