Harry Monk:
I would consider myself very lucky if I ever got away with a £190 six-weekly inspection bill.
I’ve had two I think in my 2.5 years of being an O/D where there has been nothing other than labour on the bill, which for me means about £100 for the unit and trailer together. Every other time, as you say, there’s something else needs doing and it doesn’t take very long at all to get it up to several hundred quid.
Paul
get a better truck, you might pay a bit more for the truck, but the parts bill will be cheaper
Harry Monk:
I would consider myself very lucky if I ever got away with a £190 six-weekly inspection bill.
I’ve had two I think in my 2.5 years of being an O/D where there has been nothing other than labour on the bill, which for me means about £100 for the unit and trailer together. Every other time, as you say, there’s something else needs doing and it doesn’t take very long at all to get it up to several hundred quid.
Paul
get a better truck, you might pay a bit more for the truck, but the parts bill will be cheaper
What you mean get a Scania !!! long pockets short arm hanky spanky !!!
Anyway the point remains that,BY LAW, we, in this country whether you agree or not HAVE to have our vehicles checked out for roadworthyness at regular intervals,but normally around six weeks.
Whether you use a main dealer, as I do or a back street garage we all have to keep our trucks in good order and their is a cost for this.
Without going into all the other extra costs associated with running trucks in this country.
Ie road tax ect.
Johny foreigner on the other hand doesn’t have this problem.
Wolter koops,is not satisfied with being a Dutch co and their lower costs than ours.
He flags most of his trucks to Poland.
I have noticed that this is spreading, and a few Dutch co are probably finding that to compete, they too are having to “GO POLISH”
ROADRANGER:
Johny foreigner on the other hand doesn’t have this problem.
Wolter koops,is not satisfied with being a Dutch co and their lower costs than ours.
He flags most of his trucks to Poland.
I have noticed that this is spreading, and a few Dutch co are probably finding that to compete, they too are having to “GO POLISH”
Flagging out to the lowest common denominator wether ships or trucks and the excessive importation of goods,services and labour in all types of industry is just a symptom of the state which we’ve allowed our corrupt government and banking system to put our domestic industrial interests into.It doesn’t matter wether we get growth in the domestic economy because even if we do the net effect will just mean more importation in all those criterea with a resulting larger trade deficit with no benefits whatsoever to the domestic economy and the indigenous population.The only winners are those who’ve invested money in those lowest common denominator countries.‘Until’ it reaches the point where those who’ve done that suddenly find that they haven’t got a market for those imported goods and services anywhere in,what was once,their own developed economies.
Carryfast:
Flagging out to the lowest common denominator wether ships or trucks and the excessive importation of goods,services and labour in all types of industry is just a symptom of the state which we’ve allowed our corrupt government and banking system to put our domestic industrial interests into.It doesn’t matter wether we get growth in the domestic economy because even if we do the net effect will just mean more importation in all those criterea with a resulting larger trade deficit with no benefits whatsoever to the domestic economy and the indigenous population.The only winners are those who’ve invested money in those lowest common denominator countries.‘Until’ it reaches the point where those who’ve done that suddenly find that they haven’t got a market for those imported goods and services anywhere in,what was once,their own developed economies.
An excellent post Sir. I suffered the consequences of the merchant navies of western Europe flagging out and/or employing the cheapest nationality crews and I always thought that they got away with that because in general ships are out of sight of the public, hence out of mind. Its worrying now that whole fleets of trucks can flag out and change the nationality of the drivers to the cheapest possible, right under our noses in full view and nobody says anything about it or even thinks its a worrying trend. We all know where its heading though. Ultimately when cabotage is entirely abolished there is nothing stopping Eddie Stobart for example re-registering some/most/all of his trucks in Bulgaria and then employing Bulgarian drivers on a 3 month rotational basis and cutting his wages bill by three quaters or more and his tax an maintanance bill dramatically when his trucks only have to conform to Bulgarian standards. It sounds a far fetched idea, surely this could never happen to domestic work, could it?
For the sake of twenty years of satisfying our urge to buy cheap plastic tat, we have turned China from being a rural backwater full of peasants on bicycles, into a world superpower who are now pushing fuel prices ever upwards as they ■■■■ up the world’s oil production, along with steel, iron ore the lot.
China is a notoriously imperialistic country and if they continue to become ever more powerful and dominant then I’m sure it won’t be too long before they start looking to see what else may be achievable through global warfare.
Carryfast:
Flagging out to the lowest common denominator wether ships or trucks and the excessive importation of goods,services and labour in all types of industry is just a symptom of the state which we’ve allowed our corrupt government and banking system to put our domestic industrial interests into.It doesn’t matter wether we get growth in the domestic economy because even if we do the net effect will just mean more importation in all those criterea with a resulting larger trade deficit with no benefits whatsoever to the domestic economy and the indigenous population.The only winners are those who’ve invested money in those lowest common denominator countries.‘Until’ it reaches the point where those who’ve done that suddenly find that they haven’t got a market for those imported goods and services anywhere in,what was once,their own developed economies.
An excellent post Sir. I suffered the consequences of the merchant navies of western Europe flagging out and/or employing the cheapest nationality crews and I always thought that they got away with that because in general ships are out of sight of the public, hence out of mind. Its worrying now that whole fleets of trucks can flag out and change the nationality of the drivers to the cheapest possible, right under our noses in full view and nobody says anything about it or even thinks its a worrying trend. We all know where its heading though. Ultimately when cabotage is entirely abolished there is nothing stopping Eddie Stobart for example re-registering some/most/all of his trucks in Bulgaria and then employing Bulgarian drivers on a 3 month rotational basis and cutting his wages bill by three quaters or more and his tax an maintanance bill dramatically when his trucks only have to conform to Bulgarian standards. It sounds a far fetched idea, surely this could never happen to domestic work, could it?
Of course it could. And there is a very real danger that it will.
Unfortunately successive uk governments have/are only interested in looking after their own kind ( the rich ) ! It’s been a long time since we had any politician that genuinely cared about working class people. The mantra seems to be “growth/profit/power” , and woe betide anyone that stands in their way.
turnip:
Unfortunately successive uk governments have/are only interested in looking after their own kind ( the rich ) ! It’s been a long time since we had any politician that genuinely cared about working class people.
The BNP represent indigenous working-class people but unfortunately the vast majority of the electorate have been brainwashed into thinking it would be an act of evil to vote for them.
For the sake of twenty years of satisfying our urge to buy cheap plastic tat, we have turned China from being a rural backwater full of peasants on bicycles, into a world superpower who are now pushing fuel prices ever upwards as they ■■■■ up the world’s oil production, along with steel, iron ore the lot.
China is a notoriously imperialistic country and if they continue to become ever more powerful and dominant then I’m sure it won’t be too long before they start looking to see what else may be achievable through global warfare.
turnip:
Unfortunately successive uk governments have/are only interested in looking after their own kind ( the rich ) ! It’s been a long time since we had any politician that genuinely cared about working class people.
The BNP represent indigenous working-class people but unfortunately the vast majority of the electorate have been brainwashed into thinking it would be an act of evil to vote for them.
I must admit I was thinking mainstream politicians.
But the problem is Harry that whoever gets voted for will simply attract all the career politicians. It’s a bit of a merry go round in Westminster. The system itself had become stagnant , corrupt and non representative of the population at large.
Carryfast:
Flagging out to the lowest common denominator wether ships or trucks and the excessive importation of goods,services and labour in all types of industry is just a symptom of the state which we’ve allowed our corrupt government and banking system to put our domestic industrial interests into.It doesn’t matter wether we get growth in the domestic economy because even if we do the net effect will just mean more importation in all those criterea with a resulting larger trade deficit with no benefits whatsoever to the domestic economy and the indigenous population.The only winners are those who’ve invested money in those lowest common denominator countries.‘Until’ it reaches the point where those who’ve done that suddenly find that they haven’t got a market for those imported goods and services anywhere in,what was once,their own developed economies.
An excellent post Sir. I suffered the consequences of the merchant navies of western Europe flagging out and/or employing the cheapest nationality crews and I always thought that they got away with that because in general ships are out of sight of the public, hence out of mind. Its worrying now that whole fleets of trucks can flag out and change the nationality of the drivers to the cheapest possible, right under our noses in full view and nobody says anything about it or even thinks its a worrying trend. We all know where its heading though. Ultimately when cabotage is entirely abolished there is nothing stopping Eddie Stobart for example re-registering some/most/all of his trucks in Bulgaria and then employing Bulgarian drivers on a 3 month rotational basis and cutting his wages bill by three quaters or more and his tax an maintanance bill dramatically when his trucks only have to conform to Bulgarian standards. It sounds a far fetched idea, surely this could never happen to domestic work, could it?
Of course it could. And there is a very real danger that it will.
Unfortunately successive uk governments have/are only interested in looking after their own kind ( the rich ) ! It’s been a long time since we had any politician that genuinely cared about working class people. The mantra seems to be “growth/profit/power” , and woe betide anyone that stands in their way.
For the sake of twenty years of satisfying our urge to buy cheap plastic tat, we have turned China from being a rural backwater full of peasants on bicycles, into a world superpower who are now pushing fuel prices ever upwards as they ■■■■ up the world’s oil production, along with steel, iron ore the lot.
China is a notoriously imperialistic country and if they continue to become ever more powerful and dominant then I’m sure it won’t be too long before they start looking to see what else may be achievable through global warfare.
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I can foresee a time when the population of western europe is working as forced labour in the fields living in caravans and working for a bowl of rice a day to produce food to be sent to China to pay for our ‘debts’ built up to pay for all that cheap stuff that we could have made for ourselves.With the government having since effectiveley given our sovereignty over our own country away by flogging it’s land off to Chinese ‘investors’.
As Europeans as we all bicker between British and Bulgarian, German and Polish etc etc the Chinese are indeed quietly purchasing vast tracks of our remaining industry, huge shares of our infastructure and so on. I dont know what will happen first, a muslim majority population due to ridiculous levels of immigrations combined with birthrates or a complete transfer of ownership of all western countries to the government of China? Yellow peril indeed. What would you rather be? A muslim convert or a follower of chairman Mao?
robinhood_1984:
As Europeans as we all bicker between British and Bulgarian, German and Polish etc etc the Chinese are indeed quietly purchasing vast tracks of our remaining industry, huge shares of our infastructure and so on. I dont know what will happen first, a muslim majority population due to ridiculous levels of immigrations combined with birthrates or a complete transfer of ownership of all western countries to the government of China? Yellow peril indeed. What would you rather be? A muslim convert or a follower of chairman Mao?
I’d guess the Muslim world will go along the lines of an ever more powerful Iran backed by China and Russia.Together with an ever weaker USA.No surprise where Israel stands in that environment followed by us.No surprise that we’ll be caught in the middle of a four way vice grip of the combination of population numbers and the economic power of Russia and the Slavic East Europeans,the Chinese and the Muslims.No surprise either where the loyalties of the slavs will be in that situation and the Germans have always only been too bothered about themselves to care about the bigger picture.
turnip:
Unfortunately successive uk governments have/are only interested in looking after their own kind ( the rich ) ! It’s been a long time since we had any politician that genuinely cared about working class people.
The BNP represent indigenous working-class people but unfortunately the vast majority of the electorate have been brainwashed into thinking it would be an act of evil to vote for them.
The Labour Party could probably do the job by shifting to the right of Cameron (and UKIP) on issues of foreign policy,immigration,trade,and the EU and to the left of the LibDems on the issues of wages,employment and taxation policy.
I’ve had 50 years of Labour, Conservative and now LibDems in power, and every single parliament has been totally hostile to my interests.
Not just indifferent, hostile. The last Labour government has caused me more harm than Mrs Thatcher could have dreamt of in her wildest fantasy. Margaret Thatcher had the dream of destroying Communism, Tony Blair totally exploited the aftermath of the fall of Communism, both of them fantasised about the import of unlimited cheap labour and Blair finished what Thatcher started. They sowed the wind, and we are now reaping the whirlwind.
I would never vote for any of the “big three”. “Turkeys voting for Christmas” comes to mind.
Harry Monk:
I’ve had 50 years of Labour, Conservative and now LibDems in power, and every single parliament has been totally hostile to my interests.
Not just indifferent, hostile. The last Labour government has caused me more harm than Mrs Thatcher could have dreamt of in her wildest fantasy. Margaret Thatcher had the dream of destroying Communism, Tony Blair totally exploited the aftermath of the fall of Communism, both of them fantasised about the import of unlimited cheap labour and Blair finished what Thatcher started. They sowed the wind, and we are now reaping the whirlwind.
I would never vote for any of the “big three”. “Turkeys voting for Christmas” comes to mind.
Or maybe if there’s enough disillusioned labour voters switching to the BNP that would provide the required counterbalance to stop the worst aspects of the extremists who might be in it’s ranks .I think that might explain some of the votes which the BNP has got in working class areas in the South East where the experience of both Labour ‘and’ Conservatives in power has been just as you’ve described.
Whereas the Northerners would vote for a donkey if it’s standing for Labour and likewise in Surrey etc in the case of the Conservatives.
Harry Monk:
I’ve had 50 years of Labour, Conservative and now LibDems in power, and every single parliament has been totally hostile to my interests.
Not just indifferent, hostile. The last Labour government has caused me more harm than Mrs Thatcher could have dreamt of in her wildest fantasy. Margaret Thatcher had the dream of destroying Communism, Tony Blair totally exploited the aftermath of the fall of Communism, both of them fantasised about the import of unlimited cheap labour and Blair finished what Thatcher started. They sowed the wind, and we are now reaping the whirlwind.
I would never vote for any of the “big three”. “Turkeys voting for Christmas” comes to mind.
Essentially I agree. Especially the fact that mainstream politicians do not serve the working man/woman. Never have never will.
There are extremists in any party- David Cameron recently refused even to look at a list of Conservative paedophiles given to him by Philip Schofield on live TV.
No doubt there will be plenty of TruckNet members out next polling day voting for their local friendly blue-rosetted child-buggerer.
.I think that might explain some of the votes which the BNP has got in working class areas in the South East where the experience of both Labour ‘and’ Conservatives in power has been just as you’ve described.