That’s only on one contract. I was in screwfix the other week and seen a job advert and the wages were really good.
Well some in Wincanton are doing ok and are definately not on £8ph. I went into their Middlewich depot last week and counted 4 Bentlys and a Rolls Royce Phantom amongst the cars in the car park! 
cupidstunt:
Well some in Wincanton are doing ok and are definately not on £8ph. I went into their Middlewich depot last week and counted 4 Bentlys and a Rolls Royce Phantom amongst the cars in the car park!
What were the agency bosses doing there? that’s a bad sign
There’s movin upto 100 trucks into Southampton on 3rd
Dipper_Dave:
Courtesy of faceaches HGV driver page.
Seems OK to me…0
£8/hr straight through for a 5 day/55hr rolling week. So £8/hr for 8hrs a day on Saturdays and Sundays…
£9.34/hr overtime which is £1/hr less than my basic is payable after you’ve done 55hrs…
£2.55 a day for ADR so it could be anywhere from an extra 32p/hr down to as low as 17p per hour extra for ADR.
That was ■■■■ for Class 1 non ADR half a decade ago even in Hull. Its far from OK, its a firkin insult.
cupidstunt:
Well some in Wincanton are doing ok and are definately not on £8ph. I went into their Middlewich depot last week and counted 4 Bentlys and a Rolls Royce Phantom amongst the cars in the car park!
The car park you saw was the actual Bentley car park. They have bought the old NHS building. They park the good stuff in the compound at the side. Also if you look at most of the cars in the main car park they are Audi, VW and Seat. These are the office workers company cars.
jimcab:
Such a shame…Wincanton transport used to be a good company to work for !!..then logistics took over …showing my age now.
Such a shame…Carters used to be a good company to work for !!..then Wincanton logistics took over …showing my age now 
Well I never actually worked for Carters, but I know quite a few lads who did, and to a man they all regret the day Wincanton logistics took over 
They also all work elsewhere now.
Not sure how good it is, but where I work pay £12.50 a day when loaded ADR ,
Showing My ingnorance which is many fold. It states, 55hr rolling per week, Monday to Friday, based on a 5 day week 
Well I can add up, and Monday to Friday does equal 5 days, but what does 55hrs rolling mean
55 hrs a week based on an average of an 11 hour day worked (in rough terms working a 13 hrs day under driver hours, less 1x hour for break and not using the full remaining hour… Any thing after that is either overtime or time off in lieu… If you work s 15 hours day, that will go as overtime or cover/balance out a short day
eddie snax:
jimcab:
Such a shame…Wincanton transport used to be a good company to work for !!..then logistics took over …showing my age now.Such a shame…Carters used to be a good company to work for !!..then Wincanton logistics took over …showing my age now
Well I never actually worked for Carters, but I know quite a few lads who did, and to a man they all regret the day Wincanton logistics took over
They also all work elsewhere now.
Not sure how good it is, but where I work pay £12.50 a day when loaded ADR
My mate worked for Hanbury Davies from when they started, which he reckoned was a good firm to work for… Then Wincanton took over and completely ■■■■■■ ed the job up in terms of wages and Ts & Cs. It led to him falling out with them and jacking.
I too worked for Wincanton many years ago, on the Kwik Save contract, cracking little job, interesting with enough cage wheeling exercise so you didn’t vegetate like the RDC mob, home every night, paid well too.
Paid straight through from clocking on to clocking off, OT at x1.5 after 8 hours, plus night rate before 6am and after 6pm, OT rate Sat and Sun (double) even if a rota’d basic day plus night rate before and after 6am/pm…i might be wrong here but ISTR going onto double time after midday Saturdays too…anyone else who worked there might be able to qualify that.
Earned about £26k the first year there and peaked at about £30k, sensible hours worked too none of this 70 hour week crap, that was around '95 to '99.
Unsurprisingly though they had a few idiots like anywhere gets, the majority were competent drivers.
Its difficult to believe this is the same company offering these third world terms and conditions, Wincanton now winning the race to the bottom.
LASHHGV:
That’s only on one contract. I was in screwfix the other week and seen a job advert and the wages were really good.
I know there are some well paid contracts, Co-Op Lea Green for instance is about £13.50 an hour etc. But that’s an old contract where the pays been negotiated up over the years. Many of the new Wincanton contracts I see these days though like Asda Rochdale, Morrisons Bury etc. are paying peanuts 
The earning potential, even basic, on that container contract is significantly less than current day rates at Maritime.
Thruxton:
Any thing after that is either overtime or time off in lieu… If you work s 15 hours day, that will go as overtime or cover/balance out a short day
This seems to be another sly little thing creeping in to many Ts&Cs. Work a long day on Monday but then end up with a short one on Wednesday (for example) to ‘balance it out’, meaning that you might in effect go to work one day for only six hours’ pay rather than any kind of guaranteed minimum. ■■■■■■■■, it is.
Olog Hai:
Thruxton:
Any thing after that is either overtime or time off in lieu… If you work s 15 hours day, that will go as overtime or cover/balance out a short dayThis seems to be another sly little thing creeping in to many Ts&Cs. Work a long day on Monday but then end up with a short one on Wednesday (for example) to ‘balance it out’, meaning that you might in effect go to work one day for only six hours’ pay rather than any kind of guaranteed minimum. ■■■■■■■■, it is.
Or even split shifts, Got a few local deliveries for you this morning clock on at 6am and then clock off at 11am come back in and clock on at 3pm to do a trunk and finish at 9pm. 11 hour shift on a split, the bus companies tried this in the 80’s especially stagecoach 
and drivers were voting with their feet so it disappeared. With the labour available now how long before this creeps in? Lets face it this job just gets worse year on year 
alder:
Olog Hai:
Thruxton:
Any thing after that is either overtime or time off in lieu… If you work s 15 hours day, that will go as overtime or cover/balance out a short dayThis seems to be another sly little thing creeping in to many Ts&Cs. Work a long day on Monday but then end up with a short one on Wednesday (for example) to ‘balance it out’, meaning that you might in effect go to work one day for only six hours’ pay rather than any kind of guaranteed minimum. ■■■■■■■■, it is.
Or even split shifts, Got a few local deliveries for you this morning clock on at 6am and then clock off at 11am come back in and clock on at 3pm to do a trunk and finish at 9pm. 11 hour shift on a split, the bus companies tried this in the 80’s especially stagecoach
Only because drivers let it get that way!
well with the industry short by 44000 drivers… i can see wincanton are now leading the pack in enticing the next generation of driver to part with £2000 of their money to go and work for shelf stacker pay, still another 2 years and the dole will be putting you throught for your class 1 . and then as its been said earlier in the post, people will be regreting not taking this great rate while it was on offer
Olog Hai:
Thruxton:
Any thing after that is either overtime or time off in lieu… If you work s 15 hours day, that will go as overtime or cover/balance out a short dayThis seems to be another sly little thing creeping in to many Ts&Cs. Work a long day on Monday but then end up with a short one on Wednesday (for example) to ‘balance it out’, meaning that you might in effect go to work one day for only six hours’ pay rather than any kind of guaranteed minimum. ■■■■■■■■, it is.
To be honest, my gaff pay overtime by the day (as it should be really), but as a day worker I must admit I wouldn’t mind some short days to compensate for the long ones. This is standard in most other employment arenas. I can live off my basic & don’t really need overtime.
Slight hypocrisy maybe in that many posters on here say we work too many hours, but yet there is also opposition for the ‘balancing out’ of hours so you only work a decent number of hours in a week. 
55 hours is more than enough surely.
rob22888:
Olog Hai:
Thruxton:
Any thing after that is either overtime or time off in lieu… If you work s 15 hours day, that will go as overtime or cover/balance out a short dayThis seems to be another sly little thing creeping in to many Ts&Cs. Work a long day on Monday but then end up with a short one on Wednesday (for example) to ‘balance it out’, meaning that you might in effect go to work one day for only six hours’ pay rather than any kind of guaranteed minimum. ■■■■■■■■, it is.
To be honest, my gaff pay overtime by the day (as it should be really), but as a day worker I must admit I wouldn’t mind some short days to compensate for the long ones. This is standard in most other employment arenas. I can live off my basic & don’t really need overtime.
Slight hypocrisy maybe in that many posters on here say we work too many hours, but yet there is also opposition for the ‘balancing out’ of hours so you only work a decent number of hours in a week.
I think what people object to is being taken the ■■■■ out of…ie being given work that takes them way over 13 hours a day and then conveniently having a short day mid week to claw the already earned (morally by any right thinking person) overtime grafted for on the longer days.
Yes many of us work too many hours, i have done in the past and others not so fortunate continue to do so still in order to earn enough, needs must, but overtime should be calculated on a daily basis unable to be clawed back by unscrupulous con men bosses.
Actually the more i think about this pay scheme the more it stinks, those responsible for it at the company should be ashamed of themselves and i hope every good driver they have on this contract finds themselves a decent job and buggers off toot de sweet.
Such a shame I thought they were a reputable company, I have worked silly hours in the past to make proper money I have not however worked for a week and a half for a weeks pay, which is whats on offer here.
We are at a point where experienced drivers can and should expect more thats a job for a new driver or one with a questionable history, transport now runs 24/7 and this should be reflected in the pay, I can work my 42.5 Hrs in 4 days and have the 5th day or fill my boots on day 5 I’m fortunate and after many years have found a job I like with decent pay and conditions.
No wonder we can’t attract young people into transport, they deserve all the grief that package will attract.
The above national average “basic hours” merely compounds the crappy hourly rate base.
You’d be better off on £8ph for 40 hours flat rate - assuming you’ve got a family.
This would do for a 21 year old single bod though I guess…
Are “senior drivers” at yards like this “21 and 8 months” btw?