bloody hell what have i started here 
dreva:
Wheel Nut:
Dreva Dreva.Willi Betz was in existence for many years before gaining control of SOMAT, the Bulgarian state owned haulier.
Hungarocamion was never under the control of Willi Betz or anyone else as that was the Hungarian State Transport company. Waberers got hold of Hungarocamion and it remains Hungarian
somat was state owned as well iirc but im sure you will put me right malc
Somat was state owned, but the state it was owned by was Bulgaria
PeKaeS was owned by the State of Poland, buses and lorries
Hungarocamion was owned by the Hungarian State, (not the circus)
Romtrans was from the Romanian State
ÄŒSAD was established as a state enterprise to transport passengers and freight
Wheel Nut:
Somat was state owned, but the state it was owned by was BulgariaPeKaeS was owned by the State of Poland, buses and lorries
Hungarocamion was owned by the Hungarian State, (not the circus)
Romtrans was from the Romanian State
ÄŒSAD was established as a state enterprise to transport passengers and freight
I presume the DDR had its own state owned transport copany? If so did they get about like Hungarocamion and Somat etc going anywhere from the UK to Iran?
deutrans was the state owned company from the DDR
dutchie64:
deutrans was the state owned company from the DDR
While we had BRS 
This is a good article on the routes into Afghanistan:-
just be eternally grateful that the breweries were never nationalised wheelnut , i hate to think what we would have been supping
rigsby:
just be eternally grateful that the breweries were never nationalised wheelnut , i hate to think what we would have been supping
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Wrong there,there was a nationalisation of the breweries in Carlisle to curb excessive drinking of factory workers during the First world war,lasted upto Thatcher in the late 70’s.
i rest my case , never had a decent pint in carlisle
rigsby:
i rest my case , never had a decent pint of shandy in carlisle
Rest your case where you like,the old ‘Theakston’s’ brewery in Shaddongate was well regarded.
Shame they don’t pay more, quite fancy that. Basingstoke one week, Kabul the next.
Ex Haulier:
Shame they don’t pay more, quite fancy that. Basingstoke one week, Kabul the next.
Some people would struggle to notice any difference
somewhere in Usbekistan
Again this is a fascinating thread what a complex logistics contract this must be, there are probably no other hauliers who could do such a large turnkey project like Willi Betz.
I must admit though I am surprised that Willi Betz gave up the Toyota contract.
I asked one his bold warriors a while back , somewhere in France, Beune i think it was and he told me that the bulk of Willy,s still massive Euro fleet are gaily ploughing around the Eastern regions of the Empire… Afghanistan is included in their itinerary so its still a good job you and I hail from West of the Berlin Wall…the poor old Bulgies and other Easties not being quite so fortunate… as a sidenote i was chatting (as you do) with a Roumo chauffeur who had managed to find his way to Zona Franca a while back, he told me that because of a driver shortage in the old country due to most of the male population exiting for pastures new, the Roumanian Transport companies had hired a bunch of chaps from a little further south, India in fact, so where will they appear from next in this race to the bottom, Mexico is a front runner according to a Dutchman i dined with last year, Happy Trails to you.
kevinm:
I asked one his bold warriors a while back , somewhere in France, Beune i think it was and he told me that the bulk of Willy,s still massive Euro fleet are gaily ploughing around the Eastern regions of the Empire… Afghanistan is included in their itinerary so its still a good job you and I hail from West of the Berlin Wall…the poor old Bulgies and other Easties not being quite so fortunate… as a sidenote i was chatting (as you do) with a Roumo chauffeur who had managed to find his way to Zona Franca a while back, he told me that because of a driver shortage in the old country due to most of the male population exiting for pastures new, the Roumanian Transport companies had hired a bunch of chaps from a little further south, India in fact, so where will they appear from next in this race to the bottom, Mexico is a front runner according to a Dutchman i dined with last year, Happy Trails to you.
NO 
jessicas dad:
Bewick:
Well it sure beats the hell out of the “Fast Eddie” T.V. show,well the little I saw of it it does !!! Look out Willi if I was you as “the fast one” will cut the bottom out of an uneconomic rate,[zb] it up,then walk away and leave you to clear the [zb] up!!! But I reckon you needn’t worry as “the elves” won’t like the look of those camels !!! Reindeers,yes,but not camels !!I wish you would change the bloody record trying to hi jack another thread. Have a glass of water with that bitter pill and get it swallowed.
Great picture’s Betz. I wonder does Willi Betz still put a full manual box in the Mercedes 
dreva:
Betz:
Yes Willi Betz trucks begin less running plus they affect by Europe recession I believe now Willi Betz are not quite big company not same as old time due influx of Eastern European hauliers offers cheap competitives than Willi Betz. Look at Hungarian Waberers trucks with sun smiley face livery seen everywhere in Europe and they keep continue growing bigger operate at momentWilli Betz has won the contract and work for American Army Force and NATO supplies, they doing pick up loads from Latvia - Riga Port that ship come from America to LV and driving to Afghanistan through Belarus, Russia, Kazahstan Ubzek and Turkmenistan. I have heard they are doing big numbers trucks about 500 - 1000 trucks go there - busy daily work. That’s why you may have not see lots of Willi Betz trucks around in UK or Europe
warberers was hungarian camion i think which was owned by somat which willi betz bought if my memory serves me right im sure someone will put me right
Hungarian Camion is Hungarian and Somat is Bulgarian,as waberer is German with Branche in Eastern Europe as like as many other