If a couple has 7 children which would make 9 people in a vehicle would the car driver need to take his PCV 
as isn’t a car licence for 8 people do they make cars/people carriers with 9 seats
pecjam23:
a couple has 7 children
someones been busy enjoying themselves 
pecjam23:
do they make cars/people carriers with 9 seats
As standard - not that I am aware of - maybe specialist vehicles such as stretch limos…
pecjam23:
9 people in a vehicle would the car driver need to take his PCV
If the driver does not have a D1(101) issued with B licence prior to 1997 - yes, as anything with more than 8 seats requires a PCV.
If got D1(101) and using a vehicle with more than 8 seats (9 to 17 seats) but without fare paying passengers then that is legal.
ROG:
pecjam23:
a couple has 7 childrensomeones been busy enjoying themselves
pecjam23:
do they make cars/people carriers with 9 seatsAs standard - not that I am aware of - maybe specialist vehicles such as stretch limos…
pecjam23:
9 people in a vehicle would the car driver need to take his PCVIf the driver does not have a D1(101) issued with B licence prior to 1997 - yes, as anything with more than 8 seats requires a PCV.
If got D1(101) and using a vehicle with more than 8 seats (9 to 17 seats) but without fare paying passengers then that is legal.
thanks - and no its not me 
. and the guy is 23, and just wanted to check what i had told him was correct!!
will he have to take it in a coach or just a minibus…forgott to tell him about the CPC…
pecjam23:
will he have to take it in a coach or just a minibus…forgott to tell him about the CPC…
just called DSA on 0191 201 8112 and, your mate will like this 
, he needs to pass the D1 minibus PCV test BUT does not have to do the initial PCV driver CPC if he is not going to drive it professionally. The same goes for LGV if the person just wants the LGV licence to drive a private horsebox for example.
If he does want to in the future then he can then take modules 2 & 4 of the initial PCV driver CPC in order to do so 
cost up doing D1 & D and see what the difference is 
UPDATE & EDIT - IMPORTANT
The info from DVLA is different - see the info from the link posted in the posts below.
From that info it seems that there is no need to take an additional test if the conditions are met
23 years old and 7 children, when does he have time to drive anything? 
Just a thought:-
A vehicle requires a D1 if it has more than 8 passenger seats - As the driver is not a passenger then does the guy actually need a D1?
However a further though - if its over 3.5 tonnes he would then need a C1!
Smart Mart:
A vehicle requires a D1 if it has more than 8 passenger seats - As the driver is not a passenger then does the guy actually need a D1?
FROM HERE:
Minibuses
D1
Vehicles with between 9 and 16 passenger seats with a trailer up to 750kg.
Smart Mart:
However a further though - if its over 3.5 tonnes he would then need a C1!
No, because if over 3.5 tonnes but falls into the quote above, the PCV takes preference.
Does he charge his kids for fuel then? 
Exempted passenger carrying vehicles
Holders of a full category B (car) driving licence may drive any of the vehicles listed below:
- a passenger carrying vehicle manufactured more than 30 years before the date when it is driven and not used for hire or reward or for the carriage of more than 8 passengers
- a minibus with up to 16 passenger seats provided the following conditions are met:
i. the vehicle is used for social purposes by a non-commercial body but not for hire or reward
ii. the driver is aged 21
iii. the driver has held a car (category B) licence for at least 2 years
iv. the driver is providing the service on a voluntary basis
v. the minibus maximum weight is not more than 3.5 tonnes or 4.25 tonnes including any specialist equipment for the carriage of disabled passengers
vi. if the driver is aged 70 or over, is able to meet the health standards for driving a D1 vehicle
Got a link to that please WheelNut
delboytwo:
hi Rogdirect.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Dr … DG_4022619
you posted this link before mate
Thanks Del, I had forgotten about the DVLA info.
I should have checked with DVLA and not the DSA - live and learn…
O.k i’ll explain a bit more, some of the children came from the marriage of his partners first marriage , and the 7th child is currently cooking at gas mark 7 for 9 months, so just wondered when child is born will he of needed to take his mini bus test as im not aware of many vehicles that have 9 seats as standard he’s a close friend so just wanted to give him a heads up armed with some info.
cheers all
ROG:
delboytwo:
hi Rogdirect.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Dr … DG_4022619
you posted this link before mate
Thanks Del, I had forgotten about the DVLA info.
I should have checked with DVLA and not the DSA - live and learn…
This is the problem relying on leaflets,and handouts. They only give basic advice. I know Rog rang the Driving Standards Agency but I think they are falling into the same trap and reading free handouts.
It was my error as I rang the wrong agency for info 
ROG:
It was my error as I rang the wrong agency for info
He rang the Environment agency 
thanks for your helpp people.
pecjam23:
ROG:
It was my error as I rang the wrong agency for infoHe rang the Environment agency
I did wonder when it was answered - ‘Hello. madam whiplash ■■■■■■ agency’
ROG:
Smart Mart:
A vehicle requires a D1 if it has more than 8 passenger seats - As the driver is not a passenger then does the guy actually need a D1?
FROM HERE:
Minibuses
D1
Vehicles with between 9 and 16 passenger seats with a trailer up to 750kg.Smart Mart:
However a further though - if its over 3.5 tonnes he would then need a C1!No, because if over 3.5 tonnes but falls into the quote above, the PCV takes preference.
The point that I was making is that the guy only has 7 children and with ‘mum & dad’ - although that is nine, one of them is the driver and therefore only eight passenger seats are required, and can be drive on a cat B licence.
Around here a lot of the gangmaterschanged to vehicles with 8 passenger seats plus the driver, which allows 9 people to be taken to the fields without them having to have a D1.
To be a D1 pcv it has to have between 9 and 16 ‘passenger’ seats.
I see your point
A passenger is certainly not a driver
The law is quite defining on what constitutes a driver
Googling for - 9 seater car - produces some results