the nodding donkey:
AndrewG:
Andrew.simmons:
AndrewG:
Why would you possibly desire a job OP which involves sitting around doing nothing?? Its wasting your life away and lethargy sets in doing you no good whatsoever.
If i was an employer it would pay by the load, those wanting to crack on and earn proper money could do so and wouldnt even employ someone without a goal in life anyway. Unreal how someone could actually be looking for a job which involves the minimum effort possible 
Utter ■■■■■■■■. Paying by the load encourages dangerous and aggressive driving. Drivers belting it everywhere to make more drops and money. Being ■■■■■ in traffic, tailgating in 50mph roadworks.
What goals are you wanting? We are truck drivers. We arent saving lives. We haven’t spent tens of thousand over 5 years to gain academic qualifications. We get our licences in a week or two. It isnt brain surgery. I have two cars aged 24, a wife and mortgage aged 25, step son and my own first child due in August when I will be 27; what goal do I need? Ive got what I need and want, I work to pay for it and thats it.
With regards to looking for a job that involves minimum effort, why the hell not? Why would I go out my way to find a harder job with no financial gain? Why would I maximise every hour, reduce every possible rest? What reward do I get gor rushing and tipping myself? Unless you are paid per day, rushing around and doing all the reductions helps everyone but the driver. It doesnt put more money in MY pocket. It doesnt increase MY take home.
Pay me correctly for the work I do, Ill stay behind. Ill do favours. Ill go out my way. Otherwise, not interested.
Exactly the type of driver i wouldnt nor would the company i sub for employ! Getting the job done and back out on the road earns more for your employer, the same one that pays your wages which in turn pays for your mortgage/wife/2 point four children family. Its not a case rushing around, breaking laws/tailgating ect its about having the savvy to do the work in the least time without sitting on your arse dragging it out.Your six years experience of driving and and probably listening to tales in [zb] hole RDC’s has brainwashed you into thinking because youre 'just; a truck driver it has to equate to [zb] pay 
Paying per load would put more in your pocket, doing the least amount possible with burning as few calories as possible would not. Most of the employed drivers here are on 42k eur plus p/a and O/D’s are on around another 25-30k eur more p/a, pay per load is where its at. ‘Not interested’ as you say sums up the workshy…
Spoken like a true O/D. Or as hole boss. Bosses never, ever, have their drivers well being at heart, for the simple reason that drivers well being, and company profit don’t go together. You like to drive flat out day in day out, and reap the rewards. You can’t put a second truck on the road, employ a driver, and pay him the same money you make, for doing the same work. So you expect a driver to work as hard as you do, for less money than you?
Andew…An Owner driver or boss of a small firm is always going to look at things from a different and opposite perspective than a driver.
When I had the one truck I decided to go for two, and naively thought I would earn the same with truck 2 as I did with the one I drove, thus making twice as much money…Wrong !
A driver no matter how good a man he may be, is never going to work with the same level of enthusiasm and comittment as yourself, …especially as I am going back here to the free for all 80s when running dodgy was common place, but the same principle undoubtedly applies today.
As for paying drivers incentive bonuses and per load, …of course he is going to try and maximise it, that is what it is designed for.
In turn he WILL cut corners and go that bit faster, pushing it, so consequently compromising on safety, and in different severity degrees, depending how on how safe or how downright ■■■■ insane the individual driver is. 
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(Andrew…that point is obvious, and unarguable despite your contradiction of it mate)
On a side note I know of a walking floor firm who supposedly pay bonus in form of ‘‘Per load percentage’’ which turns out to be pure ■■■■■■■■, and is only just a ploy to get drivers to teararse like headless chickens (and many do fall for it )
I have 2 mates on there, one maxes out evey week, goes for it like an owner driver, the other works at a more leisurely pace, not ■■■■ ing about either, but for example parking in proper places with facilities rather than driving to last second to a lay by, and starting at sensible times rather than quarter way through the night, and not working unpaid Sundays to be first in Monday’s queue (you heard that right btw 
) … …and guess what?
Their yearly earnings are virtually the same, give or take a few quid…so proven to be as I said, total ■■■■■■■■.
To get back to the thread, I definitely have a different work ethic now to when I drove for myself, I aint lazy by any means, but on the other hand I will not teararse about, but I still get through the workload set for me every week, and tbf experience helps with this without having to rush around.
I will not start before 530 as I aint paid enough to do so…end of.
However previous firms I worked at have paid more for this so I have done my share of 3am starts in the past
It all depends on the type of firm I work for, (I have only worked for 4 since 1998 since being an employed driver, one for 10 yrs, I would still be there today if they had not packed in, and the present one for 7, so I am not one for going from co. to co.)
If I am treated well and like a grown up, I will go that extra mile, as again I have done many times in the past.
If I am not… I stick to the minimum required, it’s a ‘reap what you sow’ situation for me.
If you are looked on as a necessary evil, paid time and 2 bob after 50 hours, penny pinched and all the rest of it, and unless you are a thick yes man, you aint going to be THE model employee are you? but many firms fail to see this.
. On the last one, I let him have his way, and left it on… for about 5 minutes 
I thought the poor bugger was going to start crying into his Yorkshire puds.
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