Why did British Leyland fail?

Dave the Renegade:
Was driving to Leicester on the saturday that radio 1 was first broadcast. Carl Wayne was the lead singer of the move,he did marry Susan Hanson who played Benny’s mate Miss Diane.
Cheers Dave.

sorry dave your right it was karl wayne and I think he died a few years ago, fred m

Wheel Nut:

ramone:
jeese we`re talking Crossroads on a transport forum lol…i do like emmerdale though since they replaced sheep n cows with cleavage :smiley:

Did they replace them though, or just used cows with cleavage?

And a spurious link back to transport will give us Kim Tate, and Mr Wilks owned a wool firm in Bratford :stuck_out_tongue:

And all t he dodgy tacho cards got burnt in the plane crash :laughing:

ramone:

Wheel Nut:

ramone:
jeese we`re talking Crossroads on a transport forum lol…i do like emmerdale though since they replaced sheep n cows with cleavage :smiley:

Did they replace them though, or just used cows with cleavage?

And a spurious link back to transport will give us Kim Tate, and Mr Wilks owned a wool firm in Bratford :stuck_out_tongue:

And all t he dodgy tacho cards got burnt in the plane crash :laughing:

That may have been the last episode of Emmerdale I watched :open_mouth: :open_mouth: so suggestions that I was a dingle went right over my head :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Is Albert Tatlock still in coronation street ? He was modelled on Harry Gill you know :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Its all above my head ,this technical history!! all I remember is Radio 1 came on for the first time as we were going north on the M1 in the Octopus and trailer loaded with Parent tissue reels ex Bowater Scott Northfleet for the then, still underconstruction,Mill in Barrow! As I was tuning in to the new station I got an “earful” along the lines of “what are you ?an ■■■■■■ trailer mate or an ■■■■■■ radio operator,I wouldn’t mind but whats that ■■■■■■ noise■■?” Eric Poss Setember 1967. Dennis.

They never fitted radio’s in the Highwayman,Constructors and Contractors mind you if they had you would have to turned the engine off to hear it :sunglasses: :laughing: :wink:
cheers Johnnie

sammyopisite:
They never fitted radio’s in the Highwayman,Constructors and Contractors mind you if they had you would have to turned the engine off to hear it :sunglasses: :laughing: :wink:
cheers Johnnie

Yea your right Johnnie you Pickfords crews spent many a happy hour waiting in lay-by’s and listening to your ■■■■■■’s----I’ve passed an outfit many a time and all you could see was the bottoms of the “clogs” sticking up!!! Dennis.

Bewick:

sammyopisite:
They never fitted radio’s in the Highwayman,Constructors and Contractors mind you if they had you would have to turned the engine off to hear it :sunglasses: :laughing: :wink:
cheers Johnnie

Yea your right Johnnie you Pickfords crews spent many a happy hour waiting in lay-by’s and listening to your ■■■■■■’s----I’ve passed an outfit many a time and all you could see was the bottoms of the “clogs” sticking up!!! Dennis.

wern’t me as my driver always had us cleaning and polishing when ever we were waiting for the escorts you could see to shave in the brass ashtrays :wink: :unamused:

sammyopisite:

Bewick:

sammyopisite:
They never fitted radio’s in the Highwayman,Constructors and Contractors mind you if they had you would have to turned the engine off to hear it :sunglasses: :laughing: :wink:
cheers Johnnie

Yea your right Johnnie you Pickfords crews spent many a happy hour waiting in lay-by’s and listening to your ■■■■■■’s----I’ve passed an outfit many a time and all you could see was the bottoms of the “clogs” sticking up!!! Dennis.

wern’t me as my driver always had us cleaning and polishing when ever we were waiting for the escorts you could see to shave in the brass ashtrays :wink: :unamused:

Pass me my violin mother!!!

Bewick:

sammyopisite:

Bewick:

sammyopisite:
They never fitted radio’s in the Highwayman,Constructors and Contractors mind you if they had you would have to turned the engine off to hear it :sunglasses: :laughing: :wink:
cheers Johnnie

Yea your right Johnnie you Pickfords crews spent many a happy hour waiting in lay-by’s and listening to your ■■■■■■’s----I’ve passed an outfit many a time and all you could see was the bottoms of the “clogs” sticking up!!! Dennis.

wern’t me as my driver always had us cleaning and polishing when ever we were waiting for the escorts you could see to shave in the brass ashtrays :wink: :unamused:

Pass me my violin mother!!!

So it is true then that you were excellent on the fiddle :unamused: :smiling_imp: :laughing:

aSK ME SOON,

just bought the book refered to on page 1 of this post by Michael Edwardes.

:laughing:

EW car truck & bus:
aSK ME SOON,

just bought the book refered to on page 1 of this post by Michael Edwardes.

:laughing:

Ah back to the real subject,have you read it yet ?, in my opinion they should have liberated the various lorry manufacteurers and let em go it alone at least they could only blame themselves when it went wrong

sammyopisite:
They never fitted radio’s in the Highwayman,Constructors and Contractors mind you if they had you would have to turned the engine off to hear it :sunglasses: :laughing: :wink:
cheers Johnnie

No point anyway Johnnie 'cos you Pickfords lads were either driving or parking up and fiddling home - worse than me!!
I used to like “moving” those paraffin lamps that surrounded your trailers in lay-bys with me trailer wheels when I was on nights. :laughing: I put a radio in an AEC MK5,waste of time and it wasn’t much better in the Mandator either.OK in the Marathon though.

I dont need a radio in mine at the moment;Bugger all on it!

Your not wrong there Muckaway ! what a load of crap it is now, If you run long distance you need a national station not re-tune every 30mls
Used to listen to radio 2 but thats gone downhill rapid. Only decent show is 3am-5am!

I would like to know who was in charge of the grill design on the late AECs.Some had the chrome grill with the Leyland badge at the top,some had the thicker plasic looking grill and the last ones had the same grill as they put on earlier Lynx models with just AEC letters on.No expense spared there then

ubym344:
I worked for london transport for a few years in the 80s it got me over that recession and maybe the RM was a great bus in its day but most I drove had problems with power steering and gears which slipped when we got new modern buses how much nicer were they to work in, the routemaster as I recall was only withdrawn because of EEC safety rules regarding the open platform at the back I had someone fall off once and it was not a nice sight grazed to buggery, people would walk of slow moving buses without looking sometimes into the path of bikes or motorbikes I think Boris is just a chameleon trying to be nice to everyone how much money I wonder will it cost to replace the bendy buses they must have cost a pretty penny sorry to go on but its crap on the box happy new year fred

I thought they got the Routemaster finished on the grounds of disability access?
Because the rear ramp wouldn’t lower to accomadate wheelchairs it was deemd discriminatery against the disabled
I used to work with an ex LT mechanic and he stated alot of the RM’s had been changed to Scania enghines by the time they were retired as the AEC engines were finished due to emmision laws
London Transport had spent a small fortune refurbishing them

Back on subject

I was lucky that when I joined up in 87 the fiorces stil had plenty of Leylands and Bedfords
We got the Leyland Daf 4 tonner or 4 wheel drive Sherpa’s as they became known they were awful
Intrestingly in 2004 we were using MK’s and TM’s in Iraq
We had a couple of DAF’s but they were terrible and you really didn’t want to breakdown in Basra at that time
The Goverment of teh day had forced the military to take the Leyland DAF option even though the Bedford was a better wagon in an attempt to prop Leyland up
Unfortunetly that killed of Bedford as well - but Bedford had also sat back for too long churning out TK’s and MJ long past their sell by dates

Good piece a while back in Heritage Commercials about how Leyland killed off AEC in Australia

Worth remembering in 1945 Lord Rootes was offered Volkswagon and turned it down stating thet the beatle would never sell…

A couple of photo’s
Cyprus 1994 Leyland Bison 7500 Gallon “Twin Rig” aircraft refueller
Wednesday used to be cab tilt day remove the bols tilt the cab and check everything you couldn’t normally get to
They had no silencers they did make a lovely noise I must admit

AEC 7500 Gallon “Twin Rig” aircraft refueller

Scammell S26 4000 Gallon refueller these had auto boxes you trundled for ages in drive stuck in 2nd and then suddenly it would bang into third and you were off
They were supposed to be airportable but when empty you couldn’t get them out of a C130 or a Hardened Aircraft Shelter so that idea died a death and they arrived by ship
The RAF had loads of cabs for these so they changed the cabs on teh old kit and gave them a makeover so there are Leylands and AEC’s out there with a Scammell cab on

The newer DAFs we operate are a nightmare…so much for new technology eh?

On the subject of Dafs, Dads’ 02 reg Alphas’ becoming a joke; Hardly a day this week’s gone by without a trip to our workshop due to the cab suspension. My reversing lights flicker on and off when driving on rough roads and there seems to be more rattles in the cab than before Christmas (it’s not my wages!)

lots still opperating in cyprus

alan

Wonder if the blue 4 wheeler is a cut down tractor unit? I know an OD who bought an ex Waitrose Scania unit (no sleeper, little engine) and did that.