Who's had training then?

I’m not talking about DCPC modules, its just a far greater general question. If you can say, who you work (ed) for that provided it, and what was it they provided.
i.e Tail lift operation/ inspection, Introduction to Digital tacho graphs, Load securing if you maybe or maybe don’t do specialist loads, working at height course anything like that anyone ?

Does the EPIC/MPQC card count? Did that twice with Smiths Bletchington.
SAFED again with Smiths.
I wont count NVQ2 with Smiths as it was just an out of work squaddie riding shotgun.
Forklift with FWP Matthews. (And most of the DCPC)

Lol :smiley:
I was taught how to pass a test (not be a driver).
On my first day on artics I had to ask how to hook up to a trailer. Not only had I never done it or been shown how to do it I’d never even watched it being done!
I’d read the how-to’s but that’s it.
Well I learned all about trailer swaps in that first day. I changed 13 of them in that shift and went home knackered.
My last job was to pick a trailer up from Preston with carpets on it and take it to Bradford. So that’s what I did. Sadly when I got to Bradford they asked for the paperwork. I said “eh”? They weren’t please with that - said they couldn’t tip the damned trailer.

I later worked for a local haulier (Thomas Harwood, Bolton) and he showed me how to tie a dolly knot and how to sheet a load as well as securing timber and the odd load of pipes etc etc.

I learned about walking floor trailers and their pitfalls with a real-life induction which actually showed me pertinent facts about the job I was about to do. That was by a geezer from A.W.Jenkinson.

I learned about using my shiny new digi card from a driver at Stobart’s because the office staff couldn’t spare the time (i.e. they didn’t know either) - even though I told the interviewer that I had never seen a digital tacho much less used one.

Everything else I learned by asking or watching others or just working it out myself.

We were taught how to use a ride on (stand on the back of a) electric pallet truck in our big warehouse, we had to ride it into a trailer on a bay, pick up a stack of 6 empty pallets, then reverse out the trailer, and drop the pallets at a marked spot, then pull out of the pallets, and park the pallet truck up in a marked spot.
We got a very smart looking laminated certificate with our names on (the certificate was made up by the health and safety bloke) it had no legality and was completley useless to have. Mine went in a recycling bin on the way to the canteen, as did a few more later on.
Oh yeah, the best bit of this is… driver’s are’nt allowed in the warehouse!

I have five up to date various fork lift truck cards as that’s what I mostly move but having an open wagon I get other manual handling related loads and random stuff.
I basically had the “ropes” shown to me by another driver though I was a Stevedore in the TA for 11 years and had a good idea but that was a long time ago.

Ok son crack on take her back to the yard…right get your gear your off to ……. :wink:

On training, i was trained on tankers, how to load/ unload, air pressures connections etc, it was for a new job we were starting collecting sugar in France and delivering it to various sites in the north within the food industry ( mostly sweets ) so it was a full training program and including the wash out before and after, and venting and the importance of having a dry tank and we got an ology in the form of a shiny card.

The company were looking for drivers for the fridges and after placing an ad some dipsticks turned up, on one interview 5 applicants were refused a job, but one managed to slip the net and got to a driving assessment whereby he mounted every kerb on every turn including roundabouts, and when they returned to the depot informed the transport manager that he was absolutely useless, to which the T/M replied, you cant fail him hes shipping out this afternoon ( and that was in a brand spanking new MAN, with a brand spanking new trailer )

comet:
Ok son crack on take her back to the yard…right get your gear your off to ……. :wink:

A bit like a lad who called at the yard of a well known Wakefield tipper operator for a job many years ago, the gaffer pointed to a Reiver loaded for Agecroft and told him to take it. An hour later the truck was on its side on Woodhead and that was the end of his employment, found out then that he had only driven electric milk floats! :unamused:

I don’t think that many of us years ago were taught how to operate stuff, if you had a license that was good enough. My first time tipping tarmac into a paving machine was ‘fun’ but I got the hang of it, same with blowing a powder tank, after a few blockages and a lot of shovelling up lime dust you soon learned though I have forgotten how to do it nowadays after 32 years of tippers. :blush:

I did sit through the EPIC card thing however even though I never got to use it, that taught me nothing apart from reinforcing my opinion that I knew far more about the job than the instructor. :open_mouth:

Pete.

Yeah Windrush, try telling that to Conor, he seems to critisise me when i commented that i learned nothing new, but then us old hand would wouldnt we. We had to learn from our peers, that was the only way, and they would always be available to help, especially when you made a mistake. Like when i worked for Tarmac, no one told me you had to have a can of diesel and a brush to wet the sides before loading, so i loaded went for breakfast, got to the machine and had the guys having to get in the back to try and shift the bloody stuff…as you say we soon learned.

Quackers:
Lol :smiley:
I was taught how to pass a test (not be a driver).
On my first day on artics I had to ask how to hook up to a trailer. Not only had I never done it or been shown how to do it I’d never even watched it being done!
I’d read the how-to’s but that’s it.

Everything else I learned by asking or watching others or just working it out myself.

:slight_smile: I think i know you :wink:

Immigrant:

Quackers:
Lol :smiley:
I was taught how to pass a test (not be a driver).
On my first day on artics I had to ask how to hook up to a trailer. Not only had I never done it or been shown how to do it I’d never even watched it being done!
I’d read the how-to’s but that’s it.

Everything else I learned by asking or watching others or just working it out myself.

:slight_smile: I think i know you :wink:

Feel free to pm me (if you’re not joking) :smiley:

My first artic driving job was for Yardley of Leeds (London Office) I’d been all over the place with me Dad and knew how to load most things, rope and sheet, couple up etc and I’d done bit of driving and reversing, but they didn’t know that. I was no expert of course, but I had the basics. I fronted up at Fentiman road and showed my car licence then went out to a Foden with a 12 speed. Heavy breathing as he was known, (can’t remember his name) put me in the seat and away we went. Ten minutes later we were back and I had a start. Then I started learning a lot more (bit different to being with Daddykins :slight_smile: Went out for two days on eight leggers… probably to find out if I had the strength to steer them, then on the artics, Foden, Leyland, AEC, Guy (I still say to this day, the most comfy lorry I’ve ever driven was the Ergo Leyland/AEC) maybe I’m a funny shape.

As for training, it was ‘on the job.’ Working at height ? … be careful. Heavy lifting ? … be careful. Anything else you can think of ? you know the answer.

If I had to go back now, I’d ■■■■■■■ murder the first h&s nut started on me. :wink:

Mike-C:
‘… Who’s had training then…?’

Have been told often enough who not to trust - and have usually found it invaluable :smiley:

I was shown where the van was and that was it …

Oh I lie

I was also shown where the kettle was ,I already knew how to make a brew so that was ok…

I suppose in 30 + Years I’ve had training after I’ve self taught in doing the job, even in my present job I’ve been taught purely because of H&S says I need to be inducted and taught How To and How Not To.

Hiab when new on class2 at a builders merchant (their expense).

Used it for years until applying for some new jobs I went and got it updated (my expense).

Was offered a job recently but all the sites they deliver to only recognise ALLMI and not the RTITB I have, so they would put me through an ALLMI course at THEIR expense.

Pretty much all work that was new to me has involved winging it until you’ve worked it out for yourself. Best way to learn!

I did my ADR with the first company I worked for Fulltime and I’ve done my forklift course, and had to be checked out on every bit of kit when I worked on an Airbase and also had to take a test to drive on the taxiways.

But mostly when I started or even when I’d been doing the job for a few years, when ever I had a new type of load, job, I’ve just been sent to ask one of the old hands.

The only training i’ve had is on the hiab which consisted of the boss telling me what levers do and let me have a play with it. 15min later i was on my way to a job.

jobseeker:
The only training i’ve had is on the hiab which consisted of the boss telling me what levers do and let me have a play with it. 15min later i was on my way to a job.

that was my hiab training too 12 years ago

I’ve had FLT and Moffett training, got a nice certificate at the end, but it was only in house so wouldn’t pass muster anywhere else I guess.

Gaffer keeps threatening to put me through C+E this coming November. We’ll see if that comes to pass.

jobseeker:
The only training i’ve had is on the hiab which consisted of the boss telling me what levers do and let me have a play with it. 15min later i was on my way to a job.

Same here in Oz. Only difference, I think my training lasted about ten minutes.