Whats wrong with doing 40 mph?

Sit at 40mph all day if you want or for what ever reason but take into consideration the traffic following behind.
Most of the Walkers crips lads i see on the A69 tend to pull over into laybys if they are holding up traffic. IMO common sense driving and good on them! Keeps everyone happy.

Shouldn’t someone point out here that 40 is the speed limit. “Limit” as in the fastest you can go in clear weather, and if the weather isn’t clear and visibility is reduced you should slow down below that 40mph ? :laughing:

Pulling into layby’s makes the job even slower than the 40 you are already restricted to.

The whole problem with this “I won’t get my work done” or “Everyone will be stuck behind me impatiently waiting to pass” etc, is the fact that attitiudes need to be changed. As I’ve said, I’m no angel on certain A roads but, also as someone else said that if you are unable to do your drops then the planning aspect needs sorting as it’s wrong. Just like the company I’ve been on for the last 4 months (and I’m on throughout January with), when I get the manifest the trailer is loaded and sealed. The truck doesn’t come back of a night run till after 6, then I have to drive to wherever and usually have no chance of making the first drop on time, the other times are also very improbable and with already running late before leaving the yard then you will be late most of the day at the drops. This coupled with breaks are not planned for adds up to a bit of joke. You can only do what you can do. This firm stacks pallets on top of pallets to get more on the trailers, puts more drops than you would think you could do, has you run your time out back towards the depot even if you miss out one or two deliveries so that you can be back 1st thing the next morning (if you have to night out) so that you can do another run. Any drops you bring back are then sent out on palletline next day but they’ve usually made their money because the 2 or 3 pallets you brought back after taking them for a ride is nothing compared to 28 or 30 pallets across 7 deliveries that you did do. The problem is they have too much work for the trucks theyve got so why don’t they change it ? The reason is that the drivers take breaks on bays, fly everywhere to do the deliveries in order to get everything off. 4 out of every 5 days they do, and thats the first fundamental problem in this company. If they done 40, took proper breaks etc then they would have to invest in a couple more trucks, then maybe the drivers could relax a bit. Guess who are moaning at the work they’ve got to do ? Yes, the drivers…

Lets put it this way and refer back to 110 miles on the A9.
Travelling at a constant 40 it will take 2h45m even on the dual carriageway section.
Travelling at a constant 55 it will take 2 hours.
So you have cut the time down by 45 minutes.
Agree?

45 mins per day x 5 days in a week = 3 hours 45 mins a week.
3 hours 45 mins a week x 4 weeks in a month = 15 hours a month.
15 hours a month x hourly rate of lets say £8.50 = £127.50
£150 x 12 months = £1530.
£1530 YOU have not earned by doing 55 in the 40 zones.

Kerbdog:
The reason is that the drivers take breaks on bays, fly everywhere to do the deliveries in order to get everything off. 4 out of every 5 days they do, and thats the first fundamental problem in this company. If they done 40, took proper breaks etc then they would have to invest in a couple more trucks, then maybe the drivers could relax a bit. Guess who are moaning at the work they’ve got to do ? Yes, the drivers…

For as long as I can remember drivers have ALWAYS been their own worst enemy, in respect of their lack of intelligence in these cases, I mean the fact that they are willing, even eager :open_mouth: to work to their own detrement, and you will always get the operator, who will use this lack of intelligence to their own advantage, by capitalising on it, same operators consider the more intelligent amongst us who won’t,… as to quote a certain operator on here screwdrivers/troublemakers and even nancyboys :open_mouth:

dont know why everybodys so worried about it, tosco, asda, hourly pay and drivers who like to toss it off will not break any speed limit. drivers who need to or have to get on will. FACT!!! everyone who sticks to the limits of the law will allways be ok and never get speeding tickets, those who speed will have to suffer in any way deemed fit at the time, the wrath of the law, weather its speeding offences, or causing a rta. those drivers who break the law will suffer, not you good law abidding truck drivers :unamused: everybody chill. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

tango boy:
dont know why everybodys so worried about it, tosco, asda, hourly pay and drivers who like to toss it off will not break any speed limit. drivers who need to or have to get on will. FACT!!! everyone who sticks to the limits of the law will allways be ok and never get speeding tickets, those who speed will have to suffer in any way deemed fit at the time, the wrath of the law, weather its speeding offences, or causing a rta. those drivers who break the law will suffer, not you good law abidding truck drivers :unamused: everybody chill. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

That’s the whole point a driver should neither need to or have to, if the job was planned properly, and some operators were not as unscrupulous, the fact that haulage has turned into a rat race does not make it acceptable or right, where as if a driver chooses to go over the speed limit that’s a seperate argument… And just for the record I AINT watching your every move :smiley: …no really…I aint! :laughing: :laughing: and a Happy new year to you too :smiley:

beanie:
Lets put it this way and refer back to 110 miles on the A9.
Travelling at a constant 40 it will take 2h45m even on the dual carriageway section.
Travelling at a constant 55 it will take 2 hours.
So you have cut the time down by 45 minutes.
Agree?

45 mins per day x 5 days in a week = 3 hours 45 mins a week.
3 hours 45 mins a week x 4 weeks in a month = 15 hours a month.
15 hours a month x hourly rate of lets say £8.50 = £127.50
£150 x 12 months = £1530.
£1530 YOU have not earned by doing 55 in the 40 zones.

So because we didn’t earn that £1530 we should risk getting points on our driving licenses to gain that 45 minutes?

mickyblue:
So because we didn’t earn that £1530 we should risk getting points on our driving licenses to gain that 45 minutes?

:laughing: no what it means stick to the limit, make more money, and dont get points ither

HTH :wink:

Do those that get ‘bored’ sitting at 40 on SC or at 56 on m’way consider it is they that have a personal issue with their way of thinking ?

smallsie:

mickyblue:
So because we didn’t earn that £1530 we should risk getting points on our driving licenses to gain that 45 minutes?

:laughing: no what it means stick to the limit, make more money, and dont get points ither

HTH :wink:

I would rather be home 15 hours a month more than earn 1500 a quid year extra.

Thank you Smallsie!!
Jim does Manchester to Ipswich and back in a day. Boss is ecstatic. He’s a good lad Jim, give him the same tomorrow.
Bob does the same and does not get back so runs in the day after. He gets the same run as Jim but now Bob is three of four hours behind. So this goes on all week. At the end of the week, Jim has done five runs and Bob has only done three.
Who has worked harder for the same money and is more stressed on the M6 Friday teatime in traffic while the other is doing a local job?

Jim has worked harder to do more work and Bob is doing the local because there was not enough time to run out again by the time he got back Friday lunch.

beanie:
Thank you Smallsie!!
Jim does Manchester to Ipswich and back in a day. Boss is ecstatic. He’s a good lad Jim, give him the same tomorrow.
Bob does the same and does not get back so runs in the day after. He gets the same run as Jim but now Bob is three of four hours behind. So this goes on all week. At the end of the week, Jim has done five runs and Bob has only done three.
Who has worked harder for the same money and is more stressed on the M6 Friday teatime in traffic while the other is doing a local job?

That will be his problem, but your stating that those that stick to 40mph on a SC and full speed on a motorway are terrible people.

please explain to me why i should go faster and risk getting fined for it?

Can’t understand the mentality of those who think 40mph makes a driver lazy. Most teararses I used to work with wouldn’t do anymore loads, or go home earlier, but would doss about in the yard to find out everybody elses’ business.

mickyblue:

beanie:
Thank you Smallsie!!
Jim does Manchester to Ipswich and back in a day. Boss is ecstatic. He’s a good lad Jim, give him the same tomorrow.
Bob does the same and does not get back so runs in the day after. He gets the same run as Jim but now Bob is three of four hours behind. So this goes on all week. At the end of the week, Jim has done five runs and Bob has only done three.
Who has worked harder for the same money and is more stressed on the M6 Friday teatime in traffic while the other is doing a local job?

That will be his problem, but your stating that those that stick to 40mph on a SC and full speed on a motorway are terrible people.

please explain to me why i should go faster and risk getting fined for it?

I don’t think he’s saying that.
He’s saying that Jim speeds so they give him Manc to Ipswich on a Friday where as Bob has run in on Friday morning and just pottering around locally.

and bob got n/o money … :wink:

beanie:
Thank you Smallsie!!
Jim does Manchester to Ipswich and back in a day. Boss is ecstatic. He’s a good lad Jim, give him the same tomorrow.
Bob does the same and does not get back so runs in the day after. He gets the same run as Jim but now Bob is three of four hours behind. So this goes on all week. At the end of the week, Jim has done five runs and Bob has only done three.
Who has worked harder for the same money and is more stressed on the M6 Friday teatime in traffic while the other is doing a local job?

Jim has worked harder to do more work and Bob is doing the local because there was not enough time to run out again by the time he got back Friday lunch.

you just described my old work place too a t except bob would have done four ipswich’s and been weekened or running in on sat lol

Thing is, because drivers have rushed around speeding in the past, it has knackered the job for the rest of us and now gaffers expect it. You obey all the limits and take proper breaks then they want to know why you arent getting as much done as another driver would. Unfortunatly thats just the way it is… drivers have made the job worse for themselves and future drivers.

Funny that drivers for companies who insist on obeying limits and taking proper breaks are usually regarded as lazy ■■■■■■■■■ when in fact they are just doing the job by the book and have an easier workload and generally much easier life because of it, for the same if not more money, They are the ones who have it right.

FarnboroughBoy11:
I would rather be home 15 hours a month more than earn 1500 a quid year extra.

would you be saying the same if you had 9 points? because flat to the mat can only last so long before your luck runs out IMO

i’m not saying i’m a saint and stick to the limit all the time but am not going to run flat out all the time just so i can get home 10mins early thats just crazy

I don’t think the “danger” is in doing 40 or 50 but more so the 20 mph difference between our limit and other vehicles. I’d say it would really be much safer to raise our limit to 50 and lower cars to 50mph on single carriageways too.

Commonrail, yes Bob gets his night out money of £22 a night so thats £88 a week which gives Bob an extra £4224 a year, thank you very much!

Rob22888, spot on. Drivers tearing about are the same ones who complain that the gaffer puts pressure on to get somewhere and park in lay-bys overnight because all the good places have shut. Why have they shut? Closed due to drivers tearing around and not had the need because they had a break while loading.

Scotstrucker, exactly and Bob gets a couple of hours overtime Saturday morning before taking the wife shopping.