sewerat:
there’s some right nancy boys in this game nowadays.
one reason this country is on its arse is because of people that read the rule book, and if the rule book dosn’t have the relevent rule, then they make a new rule.
A bit puzzled mate, do you mean the 56mph men are the nancy boys, ie they read the rule book see it’s 40, not relevant to them so make a new rule to do 56■■ … or the 40MPH men on A roads who want to keep a clean licence, are they nancy boys??.. just curious
i think it’s obvious. However, Just for you. The 40mph boys are the fools. Travelling at 40mph on a road that is good enough for a much higher speed is plain stupid. Drivers should be considerate to other road users, and if it means bending the rules, Then so be it.
So if a driver that speeds has an accident running on the limiter, will it be ok to say some keyboard warrior on an Internet forum told me I’m a fool for sticking to the speed limit. Will the police etc say that’s ok carry on speeding?
Of course not. But i’d love to watch someone try it.
Why would there be a risk of an accident? It dosn’t matter what the speed limit is, What matters is driving at a safe speed. Some roads may have a limit of 50mph, But there may be areas that are unsafe to do more that 30mph.
We all know that car drivers will take risks to get past a slow lorry, I don’t want to be responsible for the death of this risk taking driver.
sewerat:
there’s some right nancy boys in this game nowadays.
one reason this country is on its arse is because of people that read the rule book, and if the rule book dosn’t have the relevent rule, then they make a new rule.
A bit puzzled mate, do you mean the 56mph men are the nancy boys, ie they read the rule book see it’s 40, not relevant to them so make a new rule to do 56■■ … or the 40MPH men on A roads who want to keep a clean licence, are they nancy boys??.. just curious
i think it’s obvious. However, Just for you. The 40mph boys are the fools. Travelling at 40mph on a road that is good enough for a much higher speed is plain stupid. Drivers should be considerate to other road users, and if it means bending the rules, Then so be it.
happysack:
Sorry to fetch this up, but some us regularly drive long A roads such as the A9 and A75 and we like to make some progress. and before you come back with the old ‘but it only saves you minutes’ argument, think about say three hours in a day of doing 40 instead of 55, and that can be as much 45 miles. difference between a decent parking area/home or a tiny wee layby for the night.
Your in the wrong job then and hence why the jobs even harder and shagged .
I didn’t say there would be a risk of an accident. I was just commenting on the aftermath when an investigation shows the driver was doing 56 in a 40 zone.
For what it’s worth I drive at 40 and will continue to do so. Mind you I’m home every afternoon and don’t have to worry about where I’m going to park for the night. Because that’s outside my house and sleeping in a proper bed and not being a security guard for someone else’s tin box.
oman5:
Speaking as one of the aforementioned “nancy boys”, I should point out that a lot of us don’t have any choice in the matter. we are on live satellite tracking, the company (which does EVERYTHING 100% by the book, one of the reasons we NEVER get stopped by VOSA)) is onto us like a ton of bricks if we start breaking the speed limit. they know exactly where we are and what the limit on that road is at all times.
We also get paid on the hour, so driving faster is counter productive.
going back about 5 years one of our vehicles was involved in collision on a single track section of the A5 going towards magna park. (google it, if you want) the car coming the other way was doing about 80, went onto the wrong side of the road and had a head on with one of our trucks doing 56 (illegally). Maybe our driver wouldn’t have been able to avoid her if he’d been doing 40, I don’t know. she may have survived if he had, though. still at least he wasn’t holding up any of you non-nancy boys, eh?
do your company image a world of good with one of your sign written vehicles that has a mondeo embedded in the front grill with a body being cut out, wouldn’t it?
So you basically the office is driving the truck and your just sitting behind the wheel, you don’t think for yourself, your office tells you when to have your breaks, what speed to do, what route to take, and I bet you even get a piece of paper to tell you how to reverse when you arrive at your delivery? Is this right?
And of course It was the truck drivers fault, not the fault of the women travelling at 20mph over the limit way beyond her capabilities of controlling a motor vehicle and on the wrong side of the road??
sewerat, your forum name sums you very well. I thought this was meant to be a forum for professional drivers and from your pathetic input you are certainly not a professional so why not scurry back where you belong and make the roads a better place to be.
albion1971:
sewerat, your forum name sums you very well. I thought this was meant to be a forum for professional drivers and from your pathetic input you are certainly not a professional so why not scurry back where you belong and make the roads a better place to be.
Thankyou.
You are clearly set in your ways and enjoy obeying rules no matter what they are.
Forums are generally for discussion, Alternative views are the reason companies and people progress. But there are millions that don’t progress, They don’t evolve, They stagnate then die.
I drive very safely, and so do my drivers. i’ve had two people drive into me, But i’ve never had or caused an accident.
. It’s not good for marketing to see a sign written vehicle holding up a load of cars. The people in those cars are consumers, They put the profit into the businesses that i make my profit from. Those cars that are being held up may contain the man that rings me up to order a vehicle.
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Are you for real?
Many a time doing 40 along the 605 and been overtaken by some bloody idiot in an artic that’s after a wooden overcoat. Only takes one incident they check your tacho and your f…d, all for what,and its never the idiots that get hurt.
sewerat:
I drive very safely, and so do my drivers. i’ve had two people drive into me, But i’ve never had or caused an accident.
Not having any incidents is not a measure of a drivers safety - I have sat next to many unsafe drivers who have never so much had a scuff !!
Being assessed by another who will give you an honest view of your driving is one way to determine that for the time you are with them
Most decent driving assessors will get the measure of anothers driving within 10 mins
You’re dead right there. We train all our drivers. And i need to know if the new boy is good enough ASAP.
The training takes about 3-5 days depending on the driver. If it takes longer, then that’s the way it goes. But we don’t waste time with know it all screwdrivers.
Thanks Rob straight to the point again .Rob’s eloquent opinion is right it has been done to death, but my input is I am on hourly rate so stick to 40 on A roads (mon to thurs ) and pull over to let the 56mph guys over…each to his own, but if they need to break the law to meet schedules a quiet word with their planners is maybe needed, it aint their licences that are at risk, and as long as they keep meeting these schedules the more pressure will be applied Learned this a lonnnnnnngg time ago
The issue I have at my depot there are 70+ drivers if there on a 12hr day and finish in 10 they can go home it only takes 4 or 5 to start doing 83kph everywhere and the gaffers stick an extra drop on the route, then the same drivers complain that they can’t do the job legally or worse still the 65 odd drivers doing things right get a warning for "hanging it out " to bank hrs for holidays when they say it can’t be done management get a chart up and say x y and z did it on this date and that date are you saying there breaking the law■■?
sewerat:
I drive very safely, and so do my drivers. i’ve had two people drive into me, But i’ve never had or caused an accident.
Not having any incidents is not a measure of a drivers safety - I have sat next to many unsafe drivers who have never so much had a scuff !!
Being assessed by another who will give you an honest view of your driving is one way to determine that for the time you are with them
Most decent driving assessors will get the measure of anothers driving within 10 mins
You’re dead right there. We train all our drivers. And i need to know if the new boy is good enough ASAP.
The training takes about 3-5 days depending on the driver. If it takes longer, then that’s the way it goes. But we don’t waste time with know it all screwdrivers.
All I can say is that I hope you have nothing to do with the training with an attitude like yours or God help your drivers.
I stick to 40 I think that it is more than enough especially if you are fully freighted and besides I don’t want the fine if I get caught and don’t want the points, its not like the company pays for it!
Know it all been in the job “40” years man and boy and scania topline drivers (not all but most) normally with a tipper on are the worst for this! But if u wanna go 56 then do it just dont do any silly overtaking when going past me! happy new year people!
sewerat:
I drive very safely, and so do my drivers. i’ve had two people drive into me, But i’ve never had or caused an accident.
Not having any incidents is not a measure of a drivers safety - I have sat next to many unsafe drivers who have never so much had a scuff !!
Being assessed by another who will give you an honest view of your driving is one way to determine that for the time you are with them
Most decent driving assessors will get the measure of anothers driving within 10 mins
You’re dead right there. We train all our drivers. And i need to know if the new boy is good enough ASAP.
The training takes about 3-5 days depending on the driver. If it takes longer, then that’s the way it goes. But we don’t waste time with know it all screwdrivers.
All I can say is that I hope you have nothing to do with the training with an attitude like yours or God help your drivers.
EH !! - I am confused … what is wrong with that sensible approach to driver training/assessing ?
nothing wrong with doing 40mph after all it is the limit for trucks on s/c. just be sensible with it, pull in too let the traffic that built behind you past or if you get a d/c stretch dont whack it up too the limiter so others that wana go faster can at least have a chance too pass too.
as said before some car drivers sit so close behind that they cant see too overtake so end up causeing tailbacks that nobody else can overtake because the lineup is so long.
the problem is todays deliverys are now to the last minute, computer generated (which give no margin for hold ups etc) meaning todays drivers have too go like the clappers too make there delivery times meaning they wont pull over too let others past because big brother ( the tracker) is watching and recording, unlike 15-20 years ago where the driver turned up left his depot and had no set time too deliver in half the amount of traffic nowadays.
I have no choice but to do 40Mph. On the back of the truck it has one of those stickers stating that it is law to do 40 mph on a single. Now if i am seen breaking that there going to ring the number and moan about me breaking the 40mph. cannot win either way.
sewerat:
I drive very safely, and so do my drivers. i’ve had two people drive into me, But i’ve never had or caused an accident.
Not having any incidents is not a measure of a drivers safety - I have sat next to many unsafe drivers who have never so much had a scuff !!
Being assessed by another who will give you an honest view of your driving is one way to determine that for the time you are with them
Most decent driving assessors will get the measure of anothers driving within 10 mins
You’re dead right there. We train all our drivers. And i need to know if the new boy is good enough ASAP.
The training takes about 3-5 days depending on the driver. If it takes longer, then that’s the way it goes. But we don’t waste time with know it all screwdrivers.
All I can say is that I hope you have nothing to do with the training with an attitude like yours or God help your drivers.
EH !! - I am confused … what is wrong with that sensible approach to driver training/assessing ?
Sorry about that I was referring to sewrats training.In too much of a rush like a lot of drivers! Nothing wrong with your views at all.
I passed all my licences first time, have never failed a driving assessment for a job and always told a good drive, I have never caused an accident and avoided hundreds like most other drivers I am sure, clean licence blah blah, all that said when appropriate and when there is little traffic I am flat to the board, I am also happy to sit behind another waggon doing 40mph at a sensible distance and equally happy to steam past when there is zero risk to do so, on the occasion I am holding people up because I’m heavy or don’t know the road I am just as happy to pull in and out of a laybye to let people get on with it.
My point is your crap really can smell of roses and you can have the best of both worlds if your only sensible with it.
An idiot is an idiot regardless of what speed he or she might be doing.
The biggest reason I get on with it is actually because it bores me to death doing 40 in the middle of the night when the road is clear and there isn’t a soul in sight, I actually find my attention wanders when going so slow and choose to up my speed to enjoy the drive rather than just suffer it.
with their planners is maybe needed, it aint their licences that are at risk, 
and as long as they keep meeting these schedules the more pressure will be applied 
happy new year people!