£7.00 ph, a decent sleeper cab, £25.00 night out fee,and the x wife not knowing were I am sounds ideal. 
Dipper_Dave:
The balance is to find a job that you enjoy at first then tolerate after time with fleeting momets of enjoyment.If you are in a job that you dislike then its time to move on or at least look elsewhere.
Easier said than done but perhaps a change is on the cards for you.
Tried & failed mate, tried & failed:(
Proper money, and for a weeks work not two, home every night, job security, thats my basic requirement for a job.
What makes it a good job is respect both ways, which coincides with a company culture of trust that you will go out and do the job right until you prove otherwise, being issued with decent equipment and having good facilities to keep the equipment clean and presentable, allowed to take a pride in your job.
Thats my job and i enjoy it, lots here would probably hate it, thats how it should be, we aint clones.
Some interesting comments on this thread. All I would say is that if your not happy at work or home then make changes and don’t moan about it !!
Life is short and should be enjoyed both on the work and home front.
I do suspect many people on this site actually enjoy moaning about not being in a good job purely because they can’t be arsed to find a job/firm they really enjoy working for.
Think some of you need to look in the mirror & make some changes 
B1 GGK:
Truckulent:
Fine - your entire focus isn’t money - more fool youCan I ask why you would put a statement like that?
If you have to ask, you won’t understand the answer
waynedl:
Truckulent:
sayersy:
Conor:
sayersy:
There is a bizarre tendency on this forum for moronic trolls to ridicule people that CHOOSE to work for less money than them. Somewhere on here somebody said they turned down a job with my employer because they only pay £7.99 per hour. /quote]Because whilst drivers accept that it leads to wage deflation. Yes you may get £12/hr overtime but that is only £1/hr more than I earn for my flat rate. Government owned trust does not guarantee job security. 100,000s of people working in the civil service thought their jobs were OK until the govt handed out redundancy notices like confetti in 2008-11. The company I’m working at has above average holidays, profit share, good pensions, pay for doing DCPC, have 40hrs on the sick, are just about to renew the entire fleet (100+ units and over 600 trailers) as well and have office staff who respect the drivers decisions and they pay a lot more than £7.99/hr.
£7.99/hr is a joke in the current climate even with all of the above you say you get.
Is the company you work for an own account operator, or a haulage operation? If it’s haulage is it specialist work? It sounds to me that you’re VERY lucky in that you have a VERY good job…but is the exception rather than the rule. £7.99 may be considerably less than you get, but it is far from a joke…in fact, it is above average for general haulage in this area.
There is nothing bizarre about expecting to be paid a decent wage for doing a good job efficiently.
£7.99 is far from a joke, but only if you’re 15 and doing a paper round.
Too many drivers are sucked in by the other ‘benefits’ of the job. Being happy at work is the only valid point in your post.
This is worth something. However, night out money at £27 is only 3 quid an hour on a 9 hours off, the ‘better than average holiday’ is meaningless unless you mean you get a couple of months a year off over and above. A couple of days here and there are nowt - they’re worth less than £100/day.If you really believe that working for a Government Owed Trust means your job is safe then good luck to you in Cloud Cuckoo Land!
he lives in the North East, so £7.99 per hour is actually ABOVE average. I’m not saying that’s right, but it’s a fact.
His overtime rate is better than mine.
Of course night out money at above average rate is good, any extra money in your pocket matters.
better than average holiday allowance to me is mega important. I’m already up to 3 holiday days unpaid this year, and it’s only just September, now my company has let me have them, a LOT of companies wouldn’t. Time off to me is VERY important, I only work to pay for the [zb] I do outside of work.
We aren’t discussing what the average wage is for drivers in the North East. We are discussing what constitutes a good job in peeps’ opinions.
As you say, it isn’t right, but as long as people will work for it, it isn’t going to get any better any time soon!
If I could do what I did sat ,1 load,5 hr 45 min shift,signed up for 10.5 hrs then I’d be happy as larry ( they paid me back and more yesterday though 
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What would I like of a job if I could get it ,well mon-fri,50 hrs a week max,wages I get now.
But I couldn’t be further away from getting that as you could be,I get the odd short day but very rare lately ,tried for years for mon-fri,no chance
Tried elsewhere and round here it’s the same ■■■■ just another uniform ,ah well ,onwards and downwards
sayersy:
There is a bizarre tendency on this forum for moronic trolls to ridicule people that CHOOSE to work for less money than them. Somewhere on here somebody said they turned down a job with my employer because they only pay £7.99 per hour. However, he failed to mention the £12 per hour overtime rate, £27 night out, job security (My employer is a government owned trust), above average holidays, the flexible hours, profit share, good pensions, Paid for attending DCPC, 40 hrs per week on the sick, brand new trucks, and even the office staff that accept that I’m the expert, and always ask my opinion - I even get praised from time to time!So, my question to you, what do you think makes a job worth sticking with? Is there more important things than money?
Fully understand what you say is a good job,for a great many that is a good job,and having an o/t rate of £12 ph. BUT some people are only interested whats in the pay packet at the end of the week,£7.99 & brand new trucks etc dont pay the bills.
o/t and bonus`s can stop in an instant they can never be guaranteed.
Truckulent:
B1 GGK:
Truckulent:
Fine - your entire focus isn’t money - more fool youCan I ask why you would put a statement like that?
If you have to ask, you won’t understand the answer
I am just wondering why you would say people are fools for not being money orientated? Become a slave to money?
I hate to sound mercenary, but I go to work to earn the maximum amount of money in the least amount of time. If its a good job then all the better.
seth 70:
George@ASDA driver:
Well above average wage for under average hours.Never dirty
Home every night
Good benefits
Truck/trailer never more than 4 years old.
Easy work
Left alone.
If I left this job, I’d leave the industry.
Its not the same asda i used to work for then,its above average hourly rate but when you are working weekends for single time it works out crap,im guessing you dont do ambient loads with pallets of pop and beans with snow on top of them aswell,every unit i drove at asda was a tip with all the different drivers using them,way to many weekends and no chance of getting a holliday on those days,that was 14yrs ago though at normanton things must have changed.
Obviously not the same then lol
Yeah, we work 50% weekends, which I was aware of when I started. Doesn’t bother me too much. I enjoy the days off in the week.
I’ve never had a holiday refused in 12 years!
Our units are kept mint. If not it’s a disaplinary issue.
Saturday is the last day of our working week, and I’ve normally done my 45 hours by then if I can help it, so Saturdays are £17.02 an hour 
dan dare:
I hate to sound mercenary, but I go to work to earn the maximum amount of money in the least amount of time. If its a good job then all the better.
And there is nothing wrong with that IMO, I just wonder why Truckulent thinks people are fools for not being money orientated.
If the job involved a couple of ■■■■■ birds a night and a big bag of sweets thrown in - then this country would be full of us lining up for the £6.50ph jobs on offer.
The only difference around the country therefore is what each and every one of us considers the equivalent of “2 birds and a sweet bag” - with no compromise on the latter - or whatever pulls your chain.
B1 GGK:
dan dare:
I hate to sound mercenary, but I go to work to earn the maximum amount of money in the least amount of time. If its a good job then all the better.And there is nothing wrong with that IMO, I just wonder why Truckulent thinks people are fools for not being money orientated.
I didn’t say people were fools. I said ‘more fool you’ i.e. it was a foolish thing to do. My quote was from Shakespeare’s play of 1596, The Taming of the Shrew. The context implied the actions were foolish, not the person.
But you knew that already, didn’t you?
George@ASDA driver:
Our units are kept mint. If not it’s a disaplinary issue.
Ah so that explains it. I’ve thought to myself if I was to buy a good used truck an ex Asda one would be top of my list.
People who don’t have much money appear “money orientated” to those that do have it.
Those that have money treat talking about it like “going to the toilet” or “■■■■■■ preferences”. Ie. it’s some kind of dirty laundry of which talking about openly represents some kind of “kink”… 
Those I know with pots of money appear “unimaginative” rather than “money orientated”. They’ll moan about 0.5% interest rates, oblivious to the easy good returns to be had on corporate bonds, have a car worth more than their outstanding mortgage parked outside their houses, and take their holidays in peak season “because they can afford to”. Many things the rest of us can get for free, they feel OK about paying through the nose for.
The rest of us, on the other hand, won’t be trying to “buy it for less” - they’ll either expect it for free - or will go without outright. 
Where’s the “money orientated” in such a scenario?
Back to the original thread - A “good” job has to be one that pays both a living wage (NOT a fortune - just “enough”…) and only requires you to spend a reasonable number of hours per week at work. Perhaps a 35 hour week rotating around 3 shift patterns?
sayersy:
There is a bizarre tendency on this forum for moronic trolls to ridicule people that CHOOSE to work for less money than them. Somewhere on here somebody said they turned down a job with my employer because they only pay £7.99 per hour. However, he failed to mention the £12 per hour overtime rate, £27 night out, job security (My employer is a government owned trust), above average holidays, the flexible hours, profit share, good pensions, Paid for attending DCPC, 40 hrs per week on the sick, brand new trucks, and even the office staff that accept that I’m the expert, and always ask my opinion - I even get praised from time to time!So, my question to you, what do you think makes a job worth sticking with? Is there more important things than money?
It would have been easier and quicker just to say your in love with your boss…
Winseer:
People who don’t have much money appear “money orientated” to those that do have it.Those that have money treat talking about it like “going to the toilet” or “■■■■■■ preferences”. Ie. it’s some kind of dirty laundry of which talking about openly represents some kind of “kink”…
Those I know with pots of money appear “unimaginative” rather than “money orientated”. They’ll moan about 0.5% interest rates, oblivious to the easy good returns to be had on corporate bonds, have a car worth more than their outstanding mortgage parked outside their houses, and take their holidays in peak season “because they can afford to”. Many things the rest of us can get for free, they feel OK about paying through the nose for.
The rest of us, on the other hand, won’t be trying to “buy it for less” - they’ll either expect it for free - or will go without outright.Where’s the “money orientated” in such a scenario?
Back to the original thread - A “good” job has to be one that pays both a living wage (NOT a fortune - just “enough”…) and only requires you to spend a reasonable number of hours per week at work. Perhaps a 35 hour week rotating around 3 shift patterns?
Solid Common Sense! ^^^^^^^^
Winseer:
If the job involved a couple of ■■■■■ birds a night and a big bag of sweets thrown in - then this country would be full of us lining up for the £6.50ph jobs on offer.The only difference around the country therefore is what each and every one of us considers the equivalent of “2 birds and a sweet bag” - with no compromise on the latter - or whatever pulls your chain.
Too late Winseer, the Asians have beaten us to them.
My priorities are the type of work, decent vehicles and decent office staff. Not that bothered about money but not would I allow myself to be ripped off. I’ve almost always been paid an amount I’m happy with. I fully understand people who want max money for min hours but its not for me. I love my job, I do enjoyable work, drive a great lorry and haven’t woken up dreading going go work for over a decade. I don’t see why that is so hard to understand for some, we all want different things from life and it just so happens I want a job I love rather than a nice car and a big house. If that’s what you want then good for you.