"Longer and heavier ‘mega lorries’ could be given the green light to take to the roads under new government plans to cut vehicle emissions.
Ministers are preparing to outline proposals to allow the new HGVs to operate so that they can carry more freight.
Currently lorries on British roads are permitted to drive with a maximum load weight of 44 tonnes - but this would be increased to 48 tonnes as part of the new plans.
Trailer lengths would be extended by two metres from 13.6 to 15.6 metres."
Harry Monk:
Not seen this posted before, apologies if it has.
"Longer and heavier ‘mega lorries’ could be given the green light to take to the roads under new government plans to cut vehicle emissions.
Ministers are preparing to outline proposals to allow the new HGVs to operate so that they can carry more freight.
Currently lorries on British roads are permitted to drive with a maximum load weight of 44 tonnes - but this would be increased to 48 tonnes as part of the new plans.
Trailer lengths would be extended by two metres from 13.6 to 15.6 metres."
Does anyone recall the propaganda when they upped the weights from 32 tons to 38, telling everyone how much kinder to the roads the new vehicles would be , lalaland.
Seriously? have these people every been in close proximity to a fixed triaxle trailer on a tight corner, you can almost see the tarmac being removed from the surface and on hot you days really can see and hear it happening.
The only way 48 tons should be allowed is if the tractor and trailer both have at least one steering axle, if more than three axles on a tractor or trailer then 2 axles should steer.
Which axles are to get ungrades one wonders, most 3 axles trailers are rated at 8 tons per axle both on UK legal and design weight limits, annd i hop for vehicle stability they intend to increase tractor unit weights…assuming the present king pin design weights can handle the extra.
Play around with the inputs for this. You won’t achieve 48000kg even with 9 tonne axles in the existing positions. Click samples and then input to longer 15.6 m trailer or whatever you choose.
What about if you get rid of the narrow boat and get a widebeam, then you could shift a few containers with that and save the congestion on the road. Haha
Double drive unit? Or at least a twin wheel tag? With a tri axle trl two twin wheels plus a steering super single.
In France they run that on round timber at 57 tons.
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Ed. Nice to see the Fail up to standard.
Picture of a 44t rigid, and no mention of Sweden and Finland runn8ng at 60t.
On the graphic that rigid 6 wheeler is pushing its luck at 44 tonne anyway.
The trial involves longer semi-trailers of 14.6 metres and 15.65 metres in length (17.5 metres and 18.55 metres total vehicle lengths respectively). The trailers must operate within the UK’s existing domestic weight limit (44 tonnes for vehicles of 6 axles).11 May 2015
So this seems to be the result of a 5 year trial. Apart from fridges tankers and tippers there will be very few grossing at 48 tonne I imagine, but the public will get their knickers in a knot regardless.
Franglais:
Double drive unit? Or at least a twin wheel tag? With a tri axle trl two twin wheels plus a steering super single.
In France they run that on round timber at 57 tons.
.
Ed. Nice to see the Fail up to standard.
Picture of a 44t rigid, and no mention of Sweden and Finland runn8ng at 60t.
Franglais:
Double drive unit? Or at least a twin wheel tag? With a tri axle trl two twin wheels plus a steering super single.
In France they run that on round timber at 57 tons.
.
Ed. Nice to see the Fail up to standard.
Picture of a 44t rigid, and no mention of Sweden and Finland runn8ng at 60t.
Franglais:
Double drive unit? Or at least a twin wheel tag? With a tri axle trl two twin wheels plus a steering super single.
In France they run that on round timber at 57 tons.
.
Ed. Nice to see the Fail up to standard.
Picture of a 44t rigid, and no mention of Sweden and Finland runn8ng at 60t.
Or Holland at 50 tonne
And Ireland at whatever you can load in a fridge
Yeah. Craning in the steel plate on the floor is a ■■■■■ if you’ve hanging beef to load first.
Franglais:
Double drive unit? Or at least a twin wheel tag? With a tri axle trl two twin wheels plus a steering super single.
In France they run that on round timber at 57 tons.
.
Ed. Nice to see the Fail up to standard.
Picture of a 44t rigid, and no mention of Sweden and Finland runn8ng at 60t.
Or Holland at 50 tonne
And Ireland at whatever you can load in a fridge
Yeah. Craning in the steel plate on the floor is a ■■■■■ if you’ve hanging beef to load first.
You have to use a couple of Tirfor winches for the steel plate and hang them on the meat hooks, once suspended, use the air suspension to determine the direction of travel. [emoji1]
Franglais:
Double drive unit? Or at least a twin wheel tag? With a tri axle trl two twin wheels plus a steering super single.
In France they run that on round timber at 57 tons.
.
Ed. Nice to see the Fail up to standard.
Picture of a 44t rigid, and no mention of Sweden and Finland runn8ng at 60t.
Or Holland at 50 tonne
And Ireland at whatever you can load in a fridge
Yeah. Craning in the steel plate on the floor is a ■■■■■ if you’ve hanging beef to load first.
You have to use a couple of Tirfor winches for the steel plate and hang them on the meat hooks, once suspended, use the air suspension to determine the direction of travel. [emoji1]
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Ah, TirFor and mandraulics…
Coupled with a couple of lumps of wood and a crowbar, solves most things don’t it. [emoji3]
Obviously loading time is no issue, since the card will be out anyway.
Juddian:
Are the roads not yet wrecked enough for them?
Does anyone recall the propaganda when they upped the weights from 32 tons to 38, telling everyone how much kinder to the roads the new vehicles would be , lalaland.
Seriously? have these people every been in close proximity to a fixed triaxle trailer on a tight corner, you can almost see the tarmac being removed from the surface and on hot you days really can see and hear it happening.
The only way 48 tons should be allowed is if the tractor and trailer both have at least one steering axle, if more than three axles on a tractor or trailer then 2 axles should steer.
48t on an artic is a joke.It’s the worst of all worlds combination of not enough gross to make it worthwhile and axle weight and load distribution issues.
They could create much more efficiency by allowing 8 and 9 axle 4 + 4 or 4 + 5 New Zealand type drawbar outfits with much higher gross and lower axle weights.
Franglais:
Double drive unit? Or at least a twin wheel tag? With a tri axle trl two twin wheels plus a steering super single.
In France they run that on round timber at 57 tons.
.
Ed. Nice to see the Fail up to standard.
Picture of a 44t rigid, and no mention of Sweden and Finland runn8ng at 60t.
Or Holland at 50 tonne
Don’t mention NL that slippery critter will be out with his bull as I believe or he likes us to believe it’s one of his many homes
Carryfast:
48t on an artic is a joke.It’s the worst of all worlds combination of not enough gross to make it worthwhile and axle weight and load distribution issues.
There are whole countries who disagree with you. Having driven a 50 ton artic in Northern Scandinavia for a couple of years, I can see no logic in your claim.
Carryfast:
48t on an artic is a joke.It’s the worst of all worlds combination of not enough gross to make it worthwhile and axle weight and load distribution issues.
There are whole countries who disagree with you. Having driven a 50 ton artic in Northern Scandinavia for a couple of years, I can see no logic in your claim.
2m more load deck ?.
3 at best 4t more payload ? so not exactly a major leap in tonne mile efficiencly.
Pin to trailer axle measurements stay the same to maintain the silly cut in rules.
It’s difficult to see how the thing will be loaded in the real world without a light pin or other axle weight issues at max gross weight on 6 axles.
As opposed to. youtube.com/watch?v=B4QM9RCrKwY 3.20.