Weekly Rest

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tachograph:

Coffeeholic:
The fact you seem to be turning into ROG. You had complete brain fade on a thread the other day where you appeared to be working of a different set of rules to the rest of us and now you are fixating on the back-to-back rest thing which generally only happens, for most drivers, two or three times a year. :wink: :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t have time now as I’m off to work in a few minutes but that’s just a load of bolox Neil, sure I posted the other day before my head was clear but then I’m hardly the first to do that and likely not to be the last :unamused:

Indeed, I just did the same thing. Maybe we are all ROG? :wink: :stuck_out_tongue:

tachograph:
By the way I’m glad you edited that post about four posts up in this thread, was it caused by brain fade by any chance :stuck_out_tongue: :wink:

Yes, alcohol induced brain fade. :blush: :wink: :smiley:

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Stanley Mitchell:

Coffeeholic:

Stanley Mitchell:
Neil,

The last time I had 69+/90+ hours off was 01.11 - 10.11, [a week in F/ventura], back at work 11+12 November, 13th off, back on 14 - 18 November inc, off 19+20, back on 21 - 26 inc, off 27, back on 28/29/30/01/02, off 03+04, back on 05 - 10 inc, off 11th [today].

You’re good to go, crack on.

Cheers Neil, much appreciated…

Have a Great Christmas, and, you being north of the border, an even better New Year :sunglasses:

I don’t celebrate Christmas as I am an atheist but Happy Holidays to you.

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Coffeeholic:
Maybe we are all ROG?

NAH !! - I do it sober :laughing:

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ROG:

Coffeeholic:
Maybe we are all ROG?

NAH !! - I do it sober :laughing:

Really? :open_mouth: :open_mouth: That makes it worse than I thought you were. :stuck_out_tongue: :wink:

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Is this ‘Let’s ressurect an old post week?’

I am confused (again) regarding reduced weekly rest and compensation. The one I’m not getting is where I take an ‘extra’ reduced weekly rest.

I’ll try to explain what I mean but it’s not easy without drawing something :wink:

WEEK 1
I normally have 45 hour or more weekly rest periods so there are no reductions lurking
I actually started a 48 hour rest which ended Monday WEEK 2
WEEK 2
Started Monday after my previous 48 hour weekly rest
At the end of this week I take 36 hours weekly rest which ends Monday WEEK 3
WEEK 3
Started Monday after my reduced 36 hour weekly rest
At the end of this week I take a 44 hour weekly rest ending Monday WEEK 4
WEEK 4
Started Monday after my 44 hour reduced weekly rest
At the end of this week I take a regular 45 hour weekly rest starting work again Monday WEEK 5
FOLLOWING WEEKS
I am now back to taking at least 45’s for a while

So - becasue all my rest periods spanned 2 consecutive weeks I believe they can be counted in either week but not both

Therefore my 45 hour that STARTED in week 1 I am going to COUNT in WEEK 2
I’m going to ignore my 36 hour that started in WEEK 2
I will count my 44 hour that started in WEEK 3 as being in WEEK 3
And I will count my final 45 that started in WEEK 4 as being in WEEK 4

So - as far as I can see I have complied with the two consecutive weeks rule as follows
WEEK 1 45
WEEK 2 45 (with a spare 36)
WEEK 3 44
WEEK 4 45
WEEK 5 45
etc

WHat I’m not getting is COMPENSATION. Can I just compensate the 1 hour reduction for the 44 hour rest? As far as I can see I have ignored the 36 hour rest - so although it is a weekly rest I haven’t counted it - therefore don’t have to compensate for it.

If I have this right - had my 44 have been a 45 I would be still owing 9 hours compensation - but becasue my 44 was a 44 and I counted that rest - I only need to compensate 1 hour ?

I think I have this right - but have a nagging feeling something somewhere says I must compensate for the smallest rest. Mate says this is the case and we have a few quid riding on it.

Cheers
Peter

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ex_reme_mech:
Is this ‘Let’s ressurect an old post week?’

I am confused (again) regarding reduced weekly rest and compensation. The one I’m not getting is where I take an ‘extra’ reduced weekly rest.

I’ll try to explain what I mean but it’s not easy without drawing something :wink:

WEEK 1
I normally have 45 hour or more weekly rest periods so there are no reductions lurking
I actually started a 48 hour rest which ended Monday WEEK 2
WEEK 2
Started Monday after my previous 48 hour weekly rest
At the end of this week I take 36 hours weekly rest which ends Monday WEEK 3
WEEK 3
Started Monday after my reduced 36 hour weekly rest
At the end of this week I take a 44 hour weekly rest ending Monday WEEK 4
WEEK 4
Started Monday after my 44 hour reduced weekly rest
At the end of this week I take a regular 45 hour weekly rest starting work again Monday WEEK 5
FOLLOWING WEEKS
I am now back to taking at least 45’s for a while

So - becasue all my rest periods spanned 2 consecutive weeks I believe they can be counted in either week but not both

Therefore my 45 hour that STARTED in week 1 I am going to COUNT in WEEK 2
I’m going to ignore my 36 hour that started in WEEK 2
I will count my 44 hour that started in WEEK 3 as being in WEEK 3
And I will count my final 45 that started in WEEK 4 as being in WEEK 4

So - as far as I can see I have complied with the two consecutive weeks rule as follows
WEEK 1 45
WEEK 2 45 (with a spare 36)
WEEK 3 44
WEEK 4 45
WEEK 5 45
etc

WHat I’m not getting is COMPENSATION. Can I just compensate the 1 hour reduction for the 44 hour rest? As far as I can see I have ignored the 36 hour rest - so although it is a weekly rest I haven’t counted it - therefore don’t have to compensate for it.

If I have this right - had my 44 have been a 45 I would be still owing 9 hours compensation - but becasue my 44 was a 44 and I counted that rest - I only need to compensate 1 hour ?

I think I have this right - but have a nagging feeling something somewhere says I must compensate for the smallest rest. Mate says this is the case and we have a few quid riding on it.

Cheers
Peter

Working on the basis that you’re previous weekly rest periods have been taken in such a way that you can count the weekly rest period at the end of week 1 for week 2 then it works fine.

The compensation you need to pay back is 1 hour which can be added onto any rest period of at-least 9 hours and the 36 hour reduced weekly rest period can be ignored.

There’s nothing in the regulations that says the largest reduction has to be the one compensated for.

You should however be aware that as the rest period taken at the end of week 3 now counts for week 3, from that point onwards the weekly rest periods will be at the end of the week and will remain so until such a time that you have either two weekly rest period is the same week or have a weekly rest period of at-least 69 hours duration.

By the way it may have been as well to have started a new thread on this rather than resurrecting an old thread :wink: