Hi guys, we are having a hard discussion in our office about calculating weekly rest. Question is:
If you take reduced weekly rest of 24hr then you need to add 21hr back within 3 weeks. Thing is what if you have taken 30hr rest, does that mean that you no longer need to do 21hr and can takaway those 6hr extra so your additional rest time would only be 45+15hr or those 6hr dont mean anything and you still need to have 45+21hr?
Trust:
Hi guys, we are having a hard discussion in our office about calculating weekly rest. Question is:If you take reduced weekly rest of 24hr then you need to add 21hr back within 3 weeks. Thing is what if you have taken 30hr rest, does that mean that you no longer need to do 21hr and can takaway those 6hr extra so your additional rest time would only be 45+15hr or those 6hr dont mean anything and you still need to have 45+21hr?
A reduced weekly rest of 30 hours needs 15 hours to be paid back
24 is simply the minimum weekly rest that can be taken
Great, thats what I though. Thank you 
Doesn’t have to be added to another weekly rest period either, it can be added to any rest period of 9 hours or more.
Harry Monk:
Doesn’t have to be added to another weekly rest period either, it can be added to any rest period of 9 hours or more.
If I had to pay back 2 hours weekly rest and took an 11 hour daily rest could this be counted as paying back and a reduced daily rest? Or would the 11 hours count as a full daily rest and paying back the 2 hours?
WheelzRturnin:
Harry Monk:
Doesn’t have to be added to another weekly rest period either, it can be added to any rest period of 9 hours or more.If I had to pay back 2 hours weekly rest and took an 11 hour daily rest could this be counted as paying back and a reduced daily rest? Or would the 11 hours count as a full daily rest and paying back the 2 hours?
Your choice - if you have a reduced daily rest available
WheelzRturnin:
Harry Monk:
Doesn’t have to be added to another weekly rest period either, it can be added to any rest period of 9 hours or more.If I had to pay back 2 hours weekly rest and took an 11 hour daily rest could this be counted as paying back and a reduced daily rest? Or would the 11 hours count as a full daily rest and paying back the 2 hours?
Its either a full daily rest with no payback.
Or
A reduced 9hr rest with 2hrs payback.
Trust:
Hi guys, we are having a hard discussion in our office about calculating weekly rest. Question is:If you take reduced weekly rest of 24hr then you need to add 21hr back within 3 weeks. Thing is what if you have taken 30hr rest, does that mean that you no longer need to do 21hr and can takaway those 6hr extra so your additional rest time would only be 45+15hr or those 6hr dont mean anything and you still need to have 45+21hr?
You only need to pay back the time you have reduced your rest period by. So if you were to take a weekly rest period of 44 hours 59 minutes then this would be a reduced rest period, but you would only have to extend any rest period of 9 hours by one minute to pay the reduction back.
Harry Monk:
You only need to pay back the time you have reduced your rest period by. So if you were to take a weekly rest period of 44 hours 59 minutes then this would be a reduced rest period, but you would only have to extend any rest period of 9 hours by one minute to pay the reduction back.
But it also has to be done as one lump sum so if you owed say 5hrs you couldn’t just say you’ll spread it out over the week as you only work 11-12hrs a day, you’d have to take it as a single 5hr chunk added to a daily/reduced daily or weekly rest.
So to summarise in short.
If you’re the person who is struggling with stuff like this and getting it wrong it may be worth choosing to do the EU Drivers hours DCPC module to give you a refresher. Unfortunately for many drivers, myself included, you don’t get taught this stuff when you learn to drive and you have to figure it out yourself. Sadly a lot of drivers don’t know it either so the chance of who you ask telling you complete ■■■■■■■■ is high too, especially when it comes to the amount of drivers who think if you do a 15hr duty and then take an 11hr daily rest you’ve not had a reduced daily rest - that one I’ve heard from countless people.
how does it work out if it is a leap year …think ? all the hours are max …it is 2021 dont max them out you will feel a lot better at the end of the week .
So am I reading this right.
If so it’s something I didn’t know.
So If I was to work on a Sunday so taken reduced rest.
And I owe say 10 hours .
Then during during the week I have a few earlier finishes /late starts ie have 14 hours rest every night so could take 3 hours each time as pay back ?so by Friday I’d of paid all my rest back?
And in theroy then I could take another redcuded rest period work the Sunday again.?
For the record. I don’t work weekends rare only do Mon to Fri that’s more than enough for me
edd1974:
So am I reading this right.
If so it’s something I didn’t know.So If I was to work on a Sunday so taken reduced rest.
And I owe say 10 hours .
Then during during the week I have a few earlier finishes /late starts ie have 14 hours rest every night so could take 3 hours each time as pay back ?so by Friday I’d of paid all my rest back?
No, as mentioned above the reduction has to be paid back in one block.
edd1974:
And in theroy then I could take another redcuded rest period work the Sunday again.?
Payback doesn’t relieve the need to still take a full rest every second week.
Noremac:
edd1974:
And in theroy then I could take another redcuded rest period work the Sunday again.?Payback doesn’t relieve the need to still take a full rest every second week.
Are you sure?
the maoster:
Noremac:
edd1974:
And in theroy then I could take another redcuded rest period work the Sunday again.?Payback doesn’t relieve the need to still take a full rest every second week.
Are you sure?
Positive 100% absolutely for sure
the maoster:
Noremac:
edd1974:
And in theroy then I could take another redcuded rest period work the Sunday again.?Payback doesn’t relieve the need to still take a full rest every second week.
Are you sure?
Yes, you have to take a full rest period in every other fixed week, although that doesn’t necessarily mean that you can’t take a reduced rest period on two consecutive weekends.
Harry Monk:
the maoster:
Noremac:
edd1974:
And in theroy then I could take another redcuded rest period work the Sunday again.?Payback doesn’t relieve the need to still take a full rest every second week.
Are you sure?
Yes, you have to take a full rest period in every other fixed week, although that doesn’t necessarily mean that you can’t take a reduced rest period on two consecutive weekends.
Every day is a schoolday! In my defence it’s not something I ever need to worry about, a bit like the intricacies of double manning, I’d look it up if I needed to.
It just seems a bit counter intuitive to “pay back” reduced breaks (which in effect wipes the slate clean) and then have to take a full rest period.
the maoster:
It just seems a bit counter intuitive to “pay back” reduced breaks (which in effect wipes the slate clean) and then have to take a full rest period.
EU tacho regs and common sense/logic rarely go together 
the maoster:
It just seems a bit counter intuitive to “pay back” reduced breaks (which in effect wipes the slate clean) and then have to take a full rest period.
I guess it’s because some firms would have their drivers working a six-day week every week if the reduced rest could be paid back in the week to create a full rest period so it’s done to protect drivers from this.