Probably my sort of question as been put up before but as its the first time this as happened to me its all new.
We have had a busy year last year and as it is Ive still always managed to maintain my breaks and keep with in the law as such.
New Year is always quite and wasnt expecting the megga rush we seem to be getting at the moment and all of a sudden I seem to be doing alot of running in plus running up the road to deliver for saturday morming which is cutting my weekly breaks down.
So to the point. Ive worked the last two saturday mornings last week running up from down south and delivering saturaday morning to finish at 12 noon, back in at 6am on monday which is a break of 42 hours , so Iam owed 3 hours which must be taken en block in 3 weeks, as for as I know.
This week I also finished at 12 and Iam starting at 6 on monday to go down the road again which is another 42 hour break, so, Iam owed another 3 hours, by the look of things. How do I stand with this ?
The work is good with this company and being busy in january and feb, when you hear how quite things are, is a bonus, but I dont want to upset the apple cart as I just want to blend in and get on with the work they give me. I think I stand well with this company, but, I do feel that to many ifs and buts my lead to the good work I get being given to someone else amnd once that happens you just never seem to get it back.
There are so many grey areas in trucking these days and think breaks and weekly rests is very much one of those areas, judging by the the amount of times questions like these come up on forums.
I just want to get my facts right and nip this in the bud before it gets out of hand. Cheers. Any info will be great.
valleyforge1:
Probably my sort of question as been put up before but as its the first time this as happened to me its all new.
We have had a busy year last year and as it is Ive still always managed to maintain my breaks and keep with in the law as such.
New Year is always quite and wasnt expecting the megga rush we seem to be getting at the moment and all of a sudden I seem to be doing alot of running in plus running up the road to deliver for saturday morming which is cutting my weekly breaks down.
So to the point. Ive worked the last two saturday mornings last week running up from down south and delivering saturaday morning to finish at 12 noon, back in at 6am on monday which is a break of 42 hours , so Iam owed 3 hours which must be taken en block in 3 weeks, as for as I know.
Yes, you must add those 3 hours onto another rest period of at least 9 hours before midnight on the 19th February.
valleyforge1:
This week I also finished at 12 and Iam starting at 6 on monday to go down the road again which is another 42 hour break, so, Iam owed another 3 hours, by the look of things. How do I stand with this ?
You had a reduced weekly rest last week and therefore require a full weekly rest of at least 45 hours this week which means you cannot start before 09:00 on Monday. Start at 06:00 Monday and you are leaving yourself open to a fine and being parked up for 45 hours if stopped in a control. There is also the possibility of having your licence suspended for a while, not really worth it for 3 hours.
valleyforge1:
There are so many grey areas in trucking these days and think breaks and weekly rests is very much one of those areas, judging by the the amount of times questions like these come up on forums
There are virtually no grey areas in the regulations these days, most of them have already been tested by the courts and breaks and rest requirements are very clearly laid out with absolutely no room for confusion or grey areas.
The questions on breaks and rest periods only come up so often because people either haven’t read the rules or are fed incorrect information by Transport Managers, Trainers and RDC Lawyers.
In any two weeks you must have a minimum of one regular rest period of at least 45 hours and one reduced rest period of between 24 and 45 hours, it’s that simple.
Coffeeholic:
Yes, you must add those 3 hours onto another rest period of at least 9 hours before midnight on the 19th February.
Their should be no problem with this if it can be added to a daily break, 9 to make 12 or 11 to make 14, I just wasn’t to sure if it was to be added to a daily or weekly rest so as to take 45 to 48, like I say this is where I just don’t understand the rules and this is probably why it is a grey area to me.
Coffeeholic:
You had a reduced weekly rest last week and therefore require a full weekly rest of at least 45 hours this week which means you cannot start before 09:00 on Monday. Start at 06:00 Monday and you are leaving yourself open to a fine and being parked up for 45 hours if stopped in a control. There is also the possibility of having your licence suspended for a while, not really worth it for 3 hours.
Hmm this is a problem, I suppose that I can mention this so that the traffic office can sort it out so I get 45 off next week.
valleyforge1:
Coffeeholic:
Yes, you must add those 3 hours onto another rest period of at least 9 hours before midnight on the 19th February.
Their should be no problem with this if it can be added to a daily break, 9 to make 12 or 11 to make 14, I just wasn’t to sure if it was to be added to a daily or weekly rest so as to take 45 to 48, like I say this is where I just don’t understand the rules and this is probably why it is a grey area to me.
Yep, that’s fine as the compensation can be added to ANY rest period of at least 9 hours
valleyforge1:
Coffeeholic:
You had a reduced weekly rest last week and therefore require a full weekly rest of at least 45 hours this week which means you cannot start before 09:00 on Monday. Start at 06:00 Monday and you are leaving yourself open to a fine and being parked up for 45 hours if stopped in a control. There is also the possibility of having your licence suspended for a while, not really worth it for 3 hours.
Hmm this is a problem, I suppose that I can mention this so that the traffic office can sort it out so I get 45 off next week.
Getting 45 off next week isn’t the issue. You must have 45 hours rest this week otherwise you are committing an offence, taking a regular rest next week will not alter that fact.
You start at 06:00 tomorrow and you are leaving yourself open to a fine if stopped, you would also be parked up for 45 hours somewhere. You could be called before the TC and have your LGV entitlement suspended for a while. If the worst happened and you had an accident the headlines could be along the lines of - “Tired Driver Causes Accident” or worse “Killer Driver Did Not Have Proper Rest”. Worth it for 3 hours? You should be telling them you cannot start at 06:00 tomorrow, they should really know this anyway, not that you need 45 next week.
Ok I think we have the 3 hours backs. Started this morning at 4am and got sent home at 15.00 hours as it as gone a little quiet today and so Iam not back in till 6am tomorrow.
Thats 11 plus 4 in my calcalation and so the hours have been paid back.
As for the rest I was told to keep an eye on my hours from now on and keep a close check on things.
Something tells me I will be on this website a little more often as I dont want to slip up again.
valleyforge1:
Ok I think we have the 3 hours backs. Started this morning at 4am and got sent home at 15.00 hours as it as gone a little quiet today and so Iam not back in till 6am tomorrow.
Thats 11 plus 4 in my calcalation and so the hours have been paid back.
Yep, that’s the hours owed for the weekend of the 29th/30th compensated for but it doesn’t make any difference to the infringement this past weekend, even compensating for the shortfall in hours won’t alter that.