Wanted. ''ice road trucker''

just a pity Canadians cant apply (my neighbour with many years doing the sort of work / experience the job requires,) wants to do the same I did in reverse…ie Canada-Europe.) jimmy.

Hi Jimbo.Obviously a Canadian could apply.I Think it probably would be easier for a Canadian to come to Europé than the inverse,especially for the paperwork.Personally could see no benefit for someone from North America [especially Canada] to emigrate to Europé unless they either wanted to spend time driving round Europé or had roots here.Especially up here in the frozen north it would be like Canada in miniature.
It’s strange really,but when i posted this i thought that it would be attractive to a variety of people who wanted to change lifestyle and yet experience a sort of ‘‘Canadian dream’’ of driving but in an easier environment [emigration wise],yet from all the views ony 2 people replied[niether of them English.It seems that either you have to be an English speaking country or have trucks with ‘‘noses’’.

hutpik:
It’s strange really,but when i posted this i thought that it would be attractive to a variety of people who wanted to change lifestyle and yet experience a sort of ‘‘Canadian dream’’ of driving but in an easier environment [emigration wise],yet from all the views ony 2 people replied[niether of them English.It seems that either you have to be an English speaking country or have trucks with ‘‘noses’’.

Hi Mike,
I think the thing is for a lot of people, they come to Canada despite the harsh climate and not because of it. Most drivers I know, myself included came here not so much to drive in Canada, but to drive in the more climatically hospitable parts of the US. When I was younger and Canada was a distant prospect, my dream was to drive in America, which it later became apparent would not be possible and the only way to make it happen would be to move to Canada and then travel south. Now after having being in Canada for over six years I’m thankful that I wasn’t able to move to the US because in the most part I don’t like it at all, especially east of the Mississippi but on the same token I really don’t like the winter here. Living in it is fine, driving from home to town to go shopping is fine but I don’t like having to spend 11 or 13 hours a day driving in it in a truck for months at a time and sometimes its only the trips to Florida in January and February that make it bearable for me. Ultimately it does seem to be my destinty to end up in cold places. When I worked at sea from the age of 16-20 I imagined all the warm and exotic places I’d go to, yet when my time onboard came, I never went any further south than the English channel and spent the vast majority of the time going to Sweden and Finland with bulk cargoes inward and timber back to the UK again.
One of my main motivations for actually taking the leap and coming to Canada was a more regulation free job and thus way of life because I find the petty rules and bureaucracy in European trucking to be absolutely soul destroying. I did quite enjoy driving in Europe before coming here in itself apart from the over zealous regulations but opportunities were limited for any British person in Britain at the time doing European work, let alone one who was then still under 25 so just before turning 25 I accepted a job in New Brunswick and have been here ever since.
I also think one of the big problems you’ll have getting any British people to go for the job there is the language barrier. Canada is easy because they speak an odd form of English but we all know that British people are not known in general for being forthcoming when it comes to learning another language and the Dutch for example are and to them it would be no big deal to move to Sweden. Lets also not forget that there is a much smaller pool of people in the UK these days who are up for anything that takes them out of their little box and comfort zone. Most drivers want to be home every night, they’d never consider even doing continental driving, let alone moving to northern Sweden and yes there are quite a lot of British drivers who come to Canada, but a huge number of them return to Britain rather sharpish as well. Out of the ones I’ve come across who’ve come to New Brunswick, at least half go back within weeks or a month or two and more again within a few years.
Really the only way you could compete with the Canadian dream, would be if everyone in that part of Sweden spoke English and the company were running to Spain or Italy and offering a chance to get away from the harsh winter weather and even then there’d be few British people taking you up on it and a good number of those that did would bugger off after a while.

Hi Robin.I agree with most of what you say.However the Point was to try and give someone the chance to have a better quality of life without the thought of ‘‘burning your boats’’ so to speak, as it being Europé the barriers are less to overcome.As regards English the Swedes are in the top 3 for speaking it as second language,there is more English spoken here than in Quebec :wink:.
This country is also one of the few now in Europé to have what we would call ‘‘a proper climate’’ wth 4 real seasons.Its down to -40c in the winter [like Canada]but up to 30pl in the summer so i think thats comparable to many parts óf North america.
As regards the ‘‘regulation free job’’ i think that driving an ADR truck round Scandinavia legally for 1 week then having 1 week free for a normal month salary,or driving in the mines 10 hrs a day for 7 Days then 1 week free also for a normal month salary [tacho exempt],with the possibility of as much ‘‘extra work’’ [if you want it] has got to be a dream for many drivers.
As you say,it’s maybe a ‘‘comfort zone’’ mentality nowadays.
As i mentioned one of the Dutch guys who came up here has been doing ‘‘summer relief’’ and has put £5000down on a house in a village near to Gällivare.Ok it needs a bit of work[thats what free weeks are for],but for £30,000 the debts not exactly gonna ■■■■■■■ you.Also since the new contracts have now been issed to the mining contractors everyone is upbeat and looking to renew equipment.With this in mind the cloggy has already been offered a full time contract.
I’m not really bothered about helping my old boss fnd someone as sooner or later a ‘’ gem’’ always turns up.
In this case it was more me trying to help someone to find ‘‘a better life’’,as i was fortunate to find in both Canada and here.Mike

Got any office work?

Hi Sarah.I don’t really have much knowledge about those sort of jobs.The main thing is that most of the people in that sort of work in the mining industry will speak Swedish and Finnish as well as English.
There is a shortage of personell in the health sector but [as ever]the pay is not great.That is one of the reasons why at least 30-40 percent of the drivers of trucks and heavy machinery in the mining industry are female.Mike

hutpik:
Hi Sarah.I don’t really have much knowledge about those sort of jobs.The main thing is that most of the people in that sort of work in the mining industry will speak Swedish and Finnish as well as English.
There is a shortage of personell in the health sector but [as ever]the pay is not great.That is one of the reasons why at least 30-40 percent of the drivers of trucks and heavy machinery in the mining industry are female.Mike

LOL that last sentence should have the applications flooding in :smiley:

spoke to my neighbour and he says if the moneys liveable ,he is up for the challenge. he grew up at a mine in the north.ran plant /dumpers .ran his own super bs on mine supply and bush roads and at the age of 50 wants a new challenge . recon he would need to pass driving tests in Europe.and ADR .

Hi Jimbo.Sorry,had to work 3 Days this week :unamused:.I don’t know about the tests for driving,ADR etc.I suppose he would have to take the tests again. I know Sweden has some funny regs re heavy Equipment licenses.As a European you can change licenses for cars, trucks etc, but not for heavy plant so i have been told.
As regards money,i dont know what people expect but in the mining sector you average £2000-£2500 per month net after all deductions so i think thats quite comparable to most of Europé,especially when you consider thats for 14-18 days work.If you take the money,cost of living,standard of living and '‘quality of life’'here i think its good.
Get your neighbour to check out sites such as
LKAB mining
AITIK mining
Norrbotten\Lappland Sweden.
Gällivare
Kiruna.
WWW hemnet.se [for houses]
As i have said so many times on these forums the best thing is to take a holiday and come to have a look round,speak to people,get a feel for the place,etc.For the investment of a few hundred quid before you make a lifechanging decision.Mike

Hi very interesting job and change of lifestyle what’s the nearest airport and ferry ports, to yourselves, I will look into adr tanks this weekend I think it would be easier hear,little bit about myself been driving wagons for 51 yrs best regards albert.

Hi Albert.If you’ve been driving for 51yrs why the hell would you want to work :open_mouth:.If you’re interested,just move up here and live on your pension,or if like me,you only get a pittance you can always drive during the summer months and relax during the winter,or if you dont fancy the winter use the summer money to go somewhere warm.
The nearest airports are Luleå,Gällivare and Kiruna,look them up on google.
Ferry ports are not relevant as they only serve scandinavia.The nearest one for the UK would be Bergen in Norway,about 1500kms from here.

could you not just drive in the mine?

looked into this for Australia as money and time off seemed pretty good.

Hi Mike, are you still looking for a driver for this job?

I have not spoken to my old boss for a few weeks as both of us have been working,me in the mine,him driving for the road repairs.I assume he will be interested to speak to anyone who is interested.Last time i passed the garage they were renovating one of the trailers as the work is slower at the moment due to many people being on holidays. There is a lot of work everywhere,on the roads,in the mines both driving trucks and machines both due to the holiday time and an increase in work due to new contracts.

Hi Mike, you have a pm mate.

Hi all new to the forum here i quite like the idea of this job out in sweden however im certain its probably gone now. You mention the pay of 2000 to 2500 is that after or before tax? Im very interested in driving in europe just would rather know what the pay is like :slight_smile:

If you read what was written properly you will see that it clearly states ‘‘net’’ per month.What taxes and other social costs you pay are irrelevant,it’s what goes in the bank thats important.

Hi Mike, When you say in the mine do you mean underground or open-cast… Tony

Hi Tony.They have both types of mine here.LKAB has mines both underground and open cast for iron ore. These are in Gällivare Svappavara and Kiruna.Obviously not everyone is suited or feels comfortable driving a 60t tipper up to 1.5 kms underground.Underground pays better but above ground is easier for some people.
Aitik is an open cast copper mine just outside Gällivare and is different in that they have the giant dump trucks which run at up to 600t gross.
Look them both up on Google.

Many thanks for reply Mike, Will do. Tony