The leader of the Wagner mercenaries has died in a plane crash according to the Kremlin 
or did uncle Vlad order it ?
Yevgeny Prigozhin: Wagner defied Putin and now its leader may be dead bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66601553
Seen some footage on George Gallowayâs youtube channel of the alleged wreckage still ablaze.
I thought the aircraft was supposed to be a private passenger jet, unless it broke up mid flight after whatever event forced it down the crash scene looks too small and concentrated on the face of it.
Could be any number of possibles if its sabotage or missile attac, not necessarily the one that appears obvious to the legacy media, were the Wagner group going to assit Niger for example or other African states finally combining to throw off the leaches, who indeed could benefit from this if it really is a deliberate act.
3 crew and 10 passengers.
Not sure if this is 10 passengers including 3 crew, or plus 3 crewâŚ
I reckon this is a chess move by Ukraine more than anything:
(1) Anyone can take down a civillian jet these days.
(2) Innocents are among the dead
(3) Putin canât very well deny it, as the rest of the world already pre-disbelieves he didnât have anything to do with it (!!!)
(4) Putin cannot confirm it was his efficient execution machine neither: Innocents were killed. This makes Putin look bad if he DID admit to it being a FSB operation. âKill 13 to get oneâ. Not like Putin at all, I suggestâŚ
(5) If Putin has a lie to tell here - it would be that âMr Wagnerâ was even ON that plane, or was anyone else come to thatâŚ
Give him a new alias, ship him to Africa, and put him in charge of the Junta-supporting crowd down there - and whoâs gonna know him from Adam?
White bald males over 50 - all look alike to Africans, donât they? Imagine how many âAverage Driversâ could hide under that heading as well⌠
Looks like I might not be far off the mark here, I suspectâŚ
Now change that headline word âLastâ to âMost RecentââŚ
The notion that Putin may well have lied about him being dead - clearly doesnât occur to peopleâŚ
Doya really think Putin would need to shoot down a civil aircraft to get one person?
I wonder how many western journalists will now be present on what is about to become a new âfront lineâ in Africa between the Western-backed puppet african states, and the so-called âJuntaâ states that have finally overthrown colonial rule once and for all - with the help of BOTH China AND RussiaâŚ
What better âAdvisorâ to send there than the general who wants to take the gloves off, and kill the enemy with impunityâŚ
P-K8 Q!
Q-Mali
Why do you think it was a civil aircraft? Iâm led to believe that it was the personal jet of the Wagner leader. Surely that qualifies it as a military aircraft? Albeit unarmed, but nevertheless a military aircraft.
the maoster:
Why do you think it was a civil aircraft? Iâm led to believe that it was the personal jet of the Wagner leader. Surely that qualifies it as a military aircraft? Albeit unarmed, but nevertheless a military aircraft.
Isnât the very essence OF âBeing a Mercenaryâ that you hold no actual military rank in the country youâre fighting for?
If he was âMajor Preghozinâ or whatever - then he would no longer be a âMercenaryâ, heâd be one of these thousands of quality officers weâve been told have been easily murdered by the Ukraininan elite Privates, aka Azov BatallionsâŚ
If it is Preghozinâs private jet, then as a non-russian military officer, itâll be âCivillianâ by default.
To find out what really happened here, you need to find out all about the other people that were supposed to have died with him on this aircraftâŚ
Otherwise?
Weâre told by Western Media that Putinâs forces have suffered getting on for a million losses at this point, all people that were strangely cremated by this non-existant âMobile Crematoriumâ weâve also been âTold Aboutâ, but not actually shown to be a genuine artifact, rather than just a science fantasy thing, aimed at non-science understandersâŚ
So, I conclude that Putin hasnât actually lost anywhere near a million personnel, or even lost âMore than Ukraineâ come to that.
That doesnât look like a good return on investment for Western Proxy Backers, however - so they do what they always do.
Lies and Spin to dress it up to make the Western Public see some kind of righteousness in all this bulls hit.
âRighteousnessâ?
The first casualty of War has always been the TRUTH in the past, and I cannot imagine that this war is any different.
If you want facts - put your own boots on the ground, rather than listening to hearsay propaganda from the side we shouldnât even be backing here - The Azov Nationalist Socialists - i.e. Actual Bona Fide NAZIs!
Winseer:
If you want facts - put your own boots on the ground, rather than listening to hearsay propaganda from the side!
Sage words my friend. How about putting that into practice yourself?
the maoster:
Winseer:
If you want facts - put your own boots on the ground, rather than listening to hearsay propaganda from the side!Sage words my friend. How about putting that into practice yourself?
So youâre all happy to trust even the hated Tory government that all is well, nothing is amiss, and further people on all sides will continue to perish in Ukraine every day, thanks to the Western reaction thatâll keep this war going on until the food runs outâŚ
Sanctions didnât work, after all - so Western impotence in getting boots-on-ground - will ultimately be the entire Westâs undoing.
Jingping isnât even turning up to the G20 summit, likely because he no longer sees any of the âWestern Institutionsâ as anything of the sort to be recognized further.
Itâs only a matter of time now until China unloads itâs entire Western Debt Paper portfolio, at which point the 1930âs will seem like a happy memory for everyone West of Warsaw.