cooper1203:
i dont get where you live has to do with pay rates even just over the river from me the rates are drasticaly different at the same company
Most of it comes down to house prices, we need more money in some area’s compared to others. I currently live in a 2 bed flat with a value around 175k in Gloucestershire but if I was in Middlesbrough I could have a 3 bed semi for that, a 2 bed flat is probably 75k there. So as a single man I could live off a lower hourly rate to pay the mortgage on a 75k flat compared to my 175k flat.
There’s also the competition aspect. I live in an area that has many many many warehouses, transport and logistics outfits etc etc - the golden triangle. All the big players are here and if they want staff they have to pitch competitively to attract them.
cooper1203:
i dont get where you live has to do with pay rates even just over the river from me the rates are drasticaly different at the same company
Most of it comes down to house prices, we need more money in some area’s compared to others. I currently live in a 2 bed flat with a value around 175k in Gloucestershire but if I was in Middlesbrough I could have a 3 bed semi for that, a 2 bed flat is probably 75k there. So as a single man I could live off a lower hourly rate to pay the mortgage on a 75k flat compared to my 175k flat.
Thats kind of my point. if they invested in wages in midlesbrough it then has moremoney about to invest in local facilities. its a class system that i dont like
How about this then, work 70 hours a week, paid by the mile, no overtime, same rate weekends and holidays. This is how trampers are paid by the big trucking companies in the US so when they’ve worked 70 hours and end up God knows where they have to have 36 hours off duty which they don’t get paid for.
remy:
How about this then, work 70 hours a week, paid by the mile, no overtime, same rate weekends and holidays. This is how trampers are paid by the big trucking companies in the US so when they’ve worked 70 hours and end up God knows where they have to have 36 hours off duty which they don’t get paid for.
Have haulage bosses not got the memo that slavery was finally abolished in 1865?
remy:
How about this then, work 70 hours a week, paid by the mile, no overtime, same rate weekends and holidays. This is how trampers are paid by the big trucking companies in the US so when they’ve worked 70 hours and end up God knows where they have to have 36 hours off duty which they don’t get paid for.
Worth it if you can crack 100k p/a
Mug if your getting like 50k p/a
I guess the higher rates are reserved for owner operators with all the risk that entails
The headline wages have been jacked up, but the hours “norm” seems to have gone up from 48 hours to around 60?
If you’ve got a low hourly rate, you don’t want “extended” hours… Better a low contract hourage, so you reach the point where “overtime” kicks in sooner, assuming that you can still get time-and-a-half, which isn’t a foregone conclusion these days…
How the bugger are you supposed to EVER book “further overtime” if you’re working a 5x12 week one, and 6x10hr week two, fornight rotate?
I wonder if people are being “panic-ed into taking a full time job” of late, actually…
Big Truck:
2013 Tesco FT agency nightshift=£10.50hr and no OT rate.
2022 Tesco agency nightshift =£17.68hr
plus time/half OT after 42hrs.
Improved not too bad!!!
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The overtime is a bonus, but compared to the minimum wage at the time it’s only increased from 70% over to 86% over.
I think people might forget just how much £10 was worth nearly a decade ago.
Inflation has been fairly low over past 10yrs though.
Plus past 2yrs Tesco drivers/warehouse have enjoyed a compounded 15.5% pay rise which isn’t to be sniffed at!!!
remy:
How about this then, work 70 hours a week, paid by the mile, no overtime, same rate weekends and holidays. This is how trampers are paid by the big trucking companies in the US so when they’ve worked 70 hours and end up God knows where they have to have 36 hours off duty which they don’t get paid for.
Easy to see why they came across big pond to recruit drivers since PNP was introduced!!!
grumpybum:
I’m on a very low rate of pay, but a high rate of job satisfaction.
The pay is dire. Starting at £11 p.h for class one. Nights out and overtime bring in about £800 net for all the hours god sends. I know it sounds like a terrible job. The truck is not top spec, but it’s fine. The company is quite ‘casual’. No driver facing cameras, no chasing, park where you want to. Just get the (easy) job done and bring the truck back in one piece.
I used to work 37.5hrs in the civil service, but it felt like a hundred hours. I still struggle getting my lazy bum out of bed on a Monday, but I don’t get that knot in my stomach when you do a job you don’t like. That’s worth more to me the the £££s
Of course a pay rise wouldn’t go amiss. But if it carries on like this, we’ll get one anyway when minimum wage forces it
This is an absolute classic truck driver. So many take low pay and give this kind of excuse. This is why we have had ■■■■ money for years and years.
It’s how it should be yet the cash you are on is ■■■■ basically.
Yorkshire Tramper:
The reality of high wages that are being quoted on here is not reflected in my experience of the job. My last job aprox 5 months ago was on Bulk tipping mainly farm work, 4 nights out per week and 9 hr day driving was not paying me anywhere near £1k per week. If you take out the bonuses and night out money which I am sure many are quoting as part of their wages, this equates to a much lower figure. If you max out hours on any job the wage will look very appealing. My last wages were £690 per week and I was happy enough as mainly left alone to get on with the job and not a bad firm to work for. I had done just about every type of driving before this and never exceeded 34k per year. I didn’t work overtime or do additional shifts, I just did my job and got out at the end of each week.
In my experience big wages included maxing out hours, run ragged, micro managed and generally left you with no life. Not my cup of tea.
Bulk tippers where you don’t get a pay rate,but you get part of the profits is a big rip off and always has been.
Forgive me if this has been mentioned on the forum, but I haven’t seen or heard about it til today. But Wincanton tanker drivers get payrises of between 20 and 37%, secured by Unite. Could this set a precedent?
ezydriver:
Forgive me if this has been mentioned on the forum, but I haven’t seen or heard about it til today. But Wincanton tanker drivers get payrises of between 20 and 37%, secured by Unite. Could this set a precedent?
Juddian:
Whilst 20% + increase sounds brilliant, it all depends what the starting point is.
This if they were on ten quid an hour they have only gone up to 12 quid. All these bumper pay rises are bringing trucker pay more in line with what it should have been in the first place. Long may it continue.
Agency warrior. Currently on £18 an hour for all hours worked minus a 45 minute break per day. Nice easy clean work, occasional hand ball but nothing heavy. Mostly bay work at the usual RDC supermarkets.
Average about 11 hours per day which suits me fine. I like to get the hours in an are usually home at tea time in our house which again, suits me perfectly. Get a few quid more for PM starts which I do on the odd occasions my missus does afternoons so we get the mornings together. No weekend work.
Got shifts lined up for January already so not expecting a new year lull.
ezydriver:
Forgive me if this has been mentioned on the forum, but I haven’t seen or heard about it til today. But Wincanton tanker drivers get payrises of between 20 and 37%, secured by Unite. Could this set a precedent?
I’m aware that some tanker drivers got a 10% pay rise (can’t remember the specifics, I posted a link to it in another thread) but I’d need to see a different source of info than The Morning Star to be satisfied it was genuine.
Certainly I would expect to see that news on the Unite website, but all they have about Wincanton is this piece from November, which tells a bit of a different story. unitetheunion.org/news-even … -increase/
