We are on your side.Good luck.
I can understand your concern, and really you should just walk away. The ones who ■■■■ in the trailers, are just lazy B…ds if you call VOSA, theres a good chance that there is no evidence to subject the company to an enquiry, A break on a tacho is just that, a break, so long as vosa can see the legal requirements being carried out, there will be no response. Yes working and taking a break is illegal, but, they dont have to do it, its their choice, and vosa would have to follow the trucks, watch what they are doing, at every drop, and maybe only nick one driver+1 truck, and the crafty manager will obviously say, that he is not to blame, blah, blah, blah, and always encourages a safe work practice, and if drivers dont report faulty vehicles, he cant fix them, thay always have an answwer, and will go to any lengths to protect themeselves…Walk away…
You did the right thing in quitting, but sadly the greedy one’s doing the extra work or running bent will probally back the boss up anyway so they both don’t get done, in all honesty if the drivers were bothered they would just jack aswell, but sounds like they don’t care.
Hiya just move on CMH…everything you’ve said has been going on for years…its transport and
know one gives a dam…i’ve known coppers to work a full week then do some driving for cash in hand
at weekends.its been going on years…over loading i’ve been told to leave the yard and diesel up later
knowing the weight of fuel would put me over weight. (you was’t overloaded when you left the yard.)
I said to a transport manager one day let me look at your driver card please, he said he’d lent it to
someone and never got it back.
One man alone will never put transport straight .PLUS no one will stand by what you say…
if you’ve reported the company the word will get round and you’ll not be driving lorries for years.
my advice is to SEE all SAY nowt if your not happy move on. its a pity young drivers don’t see what
transports like before thy lean to drive lorries…something else to say the bigger the company the more
they can smooth things out…haulage is a hard game…
John
Sounds like they need a push in the right direction …give em a push…as for ■■■■■■■ on the food -Anthony Thomson is that you again dirty b…! 
seems you didnt fit in and are bitter . if was you id forget it now youre gone or you could really regret trying to cause a stink
corij:
seems you didnt fit in and are bitter . if was you id forget it now youre gone or you could really regret trying to cause a stink
There’s a difference between how things seem and the actual truth. Nothing to do with bitter, I fail to comprehend how you’ve formed such an opinion on the posts so far.
Am I meant to forget, by ignoring what I’ve seen, a guy driving an 18t truck+load with no licence? He kills a kid in a road accident, what then?
You also need to take on board that I QUIT, NOT GET SACKED, I REFUSE TO BREAK THE LAW!
I see a lot of people saying I’ll regret informing, on the contrary, I’d regret not informing if God forbid an accident were to happen.
I’ve done the noble thing here, I could have easily kept quiet and carried on working there. It’s just I value my licence and other peoples safety over a bloody paycheck. If more people spoke up, then the industry would be better off. By keeping quiet, it allows crimes and abuse of powers to continue. If I can’t get a job in this industry due to telling the truth, then I’d rather wave goodbye to it. I have plenty other options regarding other jobs in my previous industry.
Dob the cowboy in mate nevermind all this “it doesnt effect me so leave it alone” ■■■■ thats why this industry is ■■■■■■ because people run bent and cut the corners, well played for having some work ethic.
Same old crap doesnt matter till something happens and its who,d have thought it !!!
Such a cheer of mammy’s boys. If the money was right I would work for them. To hell with that lying about. Gave me a days work any day and i’m your man. I have 2 motto’s…u call and I will haul…when u snooze u lose…
CMH:
corij:
seems you didnt fit in and are bitter . if was you id forget it now youre gone or you could really regret trying to cause a stinkThere’s a difference between how things seem and the actual truth. Nothing to do with bitter, I fail to comprehend how you’ve formed such an opinion on the posts so far.
Am I meant to forget, by ignoring what I’ve seen, a guy driving an 18t truck+load with no licence? He kills a kid in a road accident, what then?
You also need to take on board that I QUIT, NOT GET SACKED, I REFUSE TO BREAK THE LAW!
Didn’t get the Class 1 routes then?
milkchurns:
Such a cheer of mammy’s boys. If the money was right I would work for them. To hell with that lying about. Gave me a days work any day and i’m your man. I have 2 motto’s…u call and I will haul…when u snooze u lose…
I kind of go along with this ethic, not to the point of sending kids up chimneys, but ffs, are we all afraid of a day’s graft nowadays 
Yes tacho breaks should be adhered to, but in the real world on a job and knock I would, more often than not, get my arse into gear, get the job done and get home asap.
Strictly speaking yes, it is breaking the law, but that doesn’t mean it is an unsafe practice, my own self preservation and judgement skills protect both myself and others a whole lot more than a law drafted up by some chinless wonder in Brussels.
The economy in Britain is a mess, hardly anything gets made there anymore and what is made is mostly done by immigrant workers, yet the ‘native’ workforce as a whole wants, or rather expects, an easy life, far too many are not prepared to go the extra mile and put in a bit of graft. Hard work is what helps a company grow, or in bad times remain in business, yes I know that the government and a million other things interfere with the economy, but in our industry it doesn’t matter as much, whether we haul manufactured goods around or just cart groceries and stuff it doesn’t really matter, a load on a lorry is a load on a lorry and the harder we work, the more money is made, it may not always filter down to the drivers, but even then it almost guarantees job security, as if a company is making good money, they’re liable to be around for a while and if you’re one of the ones making them good money, then they’re less likely to look around for a cheaper alternative 
If the enforcement and compliance with rules and regulations troubles you then become a VOSA or Police officer.
If you’re not happy with the culture, boss and atmosphere of where you work, move on, and get another job.
If you want to be informally blacklisted with transport companies locally and always be untrusted by work colleagues then become a grass.
Own Account Driver:
If the enforcement and compliance with rules and regulations troubles you then become a VOSA or Police officer.If you’re not happy with the culture, boss and atmosphere of where you work, move on, and get another job.
If you want to be informally blacklisted with transport companies locally and always be untrusted by work colleagues then become a grass.
Any decent law-abiding transport company worth working for wouldn’t blacklist you for ‘grassing’ on another transport firm for taking the ■■■■ and acting with complete disregard to the law, as they wouldn’t be worried. Companies try hard and go to great expense to adhere to the rules & regs, why should others have an unfair advantage by being allowed to get away with not doing.
rob22888:
Own Account Driver:
If the enforcement and compliance with rules and regulations troubles you then become a VOSA or Police officer.If you’re not happy with the culture, boss and atmosphere of where you work, move on, and get another job.
If you want to be informally blacklisted with transport companies locally and always be untrusted by work colleagues then become a grass.
Any decent law-abiding transport company worth working for wouldn’t blacklist you for ‘grassing’ on another transport firm for taking the ■■■■ and acting with complete disregard to the law, as they wouldn’t be worried. Companies try hard and go to great expense to adhere to the rules & regs, why should others have an unfair advantage by being allowed to get away with not doing.
I think you’re confusing how you think the world ought to operate with reality.
Most firms run with the intention of being compliant. The number that start from scratch as cowboys are tiny. Even the best run outfits can make oversights or mistakes why have a member of staff that are known to like grassing?
cos youre young you think you can change the world. its a commonyoung mans perception to be honourable
believe me , another ten years and youd likely still be there at the firm just getting on with Your job legally and likely ■■■■■■ in the truck too.
milkchurns:
Such a cheer of mammy’s boys. If the money was right I would work for them. To hell with that lying about. Gave me a days work any day and i’m your man. I have 2 motto’s…u call and I will haul…when u snooze u lose…
+1…jobsworth in a normal job,= best leave and get a beancounter job elsewhere…diff strokes,difffolks… i couldnt work for a agency type job as it would be an insult to my itintlligence,with the pride of the british transport industryslogic of,how little can i do,for the most money…hence british leylandsdemise/steelworks/miners,and every other ■■■■■■■■ worker with the same attitude,work for who you want to work,work how you want,for who you want,if you dont like it,leave,leve the work to the workers with a bit of hands on gumtion,
Is the TM called rob by any chance
MikeCunn:
CMH:
corij:
seems you didnt fit in and are bitter . if was you id forget it now youre gone or you could really regret trying to cause a stinkThere’s a difference between how things seem and the actual truth. Nothing to do with bitter, I fail to comprehend how you’ve formed such an opinion on the posts so far.
Am I meant to forget, by ignoring what I’ve seen, a guy driving an 18t truck+load with no licence? He kills a kid in a road accident, what then?
You also need to take on board that I QUIT, NOT GET SACKED, I REFUSE TO BREAK THE LAW!
Didn’t get the Class 1 routes then?
They never came about as the current depot we are in is too small and still waiting to change depot, they are looking at M6 J9 at the mo.
Someone reported one of our wagons parking up locally one night. The guy set off to Scotland at 4 in the morning, only to find a traffic copper pulling him as he exited the lay-by, and had him straight into Steeton test centre just a mile up the road. Shortly after, the yard was swarming in filth, and vehicles were seized that day. I got back to the yard that night and noticed that coppers were camping out waiting for other vehicles to return to the yard. . . After speaking to my boss, he had me take the wagon home.
They found every wagon they seized had major failures for MOT tests, had run for months without tax, or insurance, and we’d been filling fuel tanks with absolutely anything that burned. The only thing that was kept relatively legal was drivers records, but even some of them were borderline.
I’m not condoning any of the things that happened during my time at this company, but it’s amazing how quickly things can get to that. Jut a quiet word in the right direction seems to be able to have massive repercussions on things.
Genuinely laughed at some of the responses. Ok let me say this again, working through break is one of the list. How about employing people with no [zb] licence to drive a Class2 truck!
As for blacklisted, it would be impossible as I will wait a few weeks if not a month and then anonymously say something.
As for changing the world or taking on the industry, no that is not my intention. My intention is making sure cowboys come second to law abiding firms.
I went for a few jobs today and got an interview tomorrow for a firm who will take me on as a newbie Class1 driver. Some have said people don’t want to work hard, bull ■■■■. I did 60-70 hour weeks on building sites, this driving lark is a walk in the park in comparison. If working hard and doing a bit of graft qualifies as breaking the law then you fail to understand the definition of hard work, you mean illegal work. If I was pulled, it’d be me paying the fine. If I was overloaded and hit a car due to not stopping in time it’d be me going to jail. Remember guys, it’s a job, not worth risking your finance or freedom for.
I understand some things go against common sense, I understand making life a little easy for myself and others but watching people drive with no licence, watching a truck go out with a missing side-guard whilst cages roll around. I can only imagine what would be said if a mother and child in pram walked passed and the cage fell on them, the driver would be hung to dry, again the employer blaming the driver and walking away relatively unharmed.