Provide some talking points, rather than just critique.
That’s what makes the difference between a “Discussion” and a slanging match.
He could tell you, but then he’d have to kill you. 
These global conspiracies are no laughing matter
Someone calculated the forces involved in the collision and it was over 8 million newtons.
I’m confident it will be far more than that.
A 44 tonner at 56 mph (25m/s) with, for example, 2m of the vehicle being subjected to deformation (ie the whole cab area), and the duration of the impact being 1 second (that criteria doesn’t affect the calculations very much), has a peak impact force of 13.75 million newtons. The ship is a lot slower than our example truck, but has a far larger mass.
Just a short update, to me anyway, on a former and current seafarers’ forum. I think the last sentence is very telling and, if true, may have a major bearing on what follows in the legal and insurance sphere.
A power fail about 4min out, probably allied to a loss of M-Eng; (huge pall of black smoke from Stack), and the ship continued course to Starboard until the pier was hit. 4 min is not a lot of time to get the E-R up and running and M-E back on line. Even with steering power from the E-M Gen; ship would likely have been a De-facto Dead ship at the point of collision. It was also reported the the ship was having power failures alongside whch interfered with loading, according to Dock Workers?
Yes, but possibly irrelevant.
Power problems relevant to power for reefer boxes are likely to be on a different circuit to sailing power aren’t they?
I can’t find it now but someone was saying that commercial ships have a secondary power system running in parallel whilst in port areas? But turn off the back-up whilst at sea?
To add I guess the other critical engine feeds for cooling and oil are also electrically driven.So a problem at the main electrical board means the engine goes with it by implication.
Auxiliary power ‘generation’ doesn’t mean totally different wiring circuits.Its just feeding the same systems from a different source.The blowers on a ship two stroke diesel after electric driven not exhaust or mechanical turbochargers.I guess if there’s a problem at the electrical distribution board not generation the blowers will go down and the main engine will then automatically shut down.
I did not say “auxiliary power generation”
I did say “secondary power system”
I also said that I couldn’t find the original source.
There is no ‘secondary’ power system.There’s only auxiliary generation feeding into the same main board and breakers.
If that board goes down then it doesn’t matter how many sources of generation or even land line hook up feed it.
It’s like the consumer unit main breaker control in the house shutting down because of an electrical fault.Its not an issue of power source.
So major electrical fault causes main breakers to trip on the main board, engine shuts down because no cooling or oil pumps and no induction blowers.No engine no steerage way from already minimum steerage speed.
Since you present that as a fact, please give us a link.
Thank you.
Have Carryfast and Winseer arrived in Baltimore yet to get things sorted. That ship needs to be in Sri Lanka sharpish (tongue in cheek)
I believe they’re planning to do this one by Zoom; it’s such an open and shut case it doesn’t require them to be physically present.
Does anybody remember ‘Ask Elvis’ on the Steve Wright show.
No?.. It was a spoof Q&A session.
They asked him random questions on any goddamm subject under the sun, and he immediately answered everyone…
He was an expert and absolute authority on anything you can imagine .I’m just sat here trying to think who that reminds me of.
Maybe you can provide the link showing ships being wired up with multiple redundancy electric circuits and main boards and control rooms.
There’s plenty enough experts on here! Don’t need the BBC
To add I’m willing to admit that there is/probably is redundancy in the auxiliary/emergency generator wiring and board control.
But it still looks like insufficient time between the auxiliary power coming online and being able to restart the then fuel flooded engine ?.
Bearing in mind that power was lost a second time even after the supposed auxiliary power coming online which suggests no actiual wiring circuit redundancy ?.
Conspiracy at its best, it’s like watching a south park episode or bevis and buthead
Its a comedy show of experts, so funny
The questions,
regarding 9 mph over the ground v through the water, of a following ebb tide ? being sufficient to provide steerage way even under engine power ?.
At best that marginal steerage way being sufficient , let alone after an electrical failure leading to main engine shut down ?.
There being no protection in the bridge design from foreseeable ship collision ?.
Aren’t conspiracy theory.
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