I’am Just trying to work out what year and on what make of lorry did eminox style upright exhausts start appearing, I’ve a 1972 Dennis cess sucker with an original stainless pipe bracketed up the back of the cab ( pipe only not silencer box ) .
Eminox the company near Gainsborough were fitting municipal vehicles when I used to go with a local farmer to Lincoln Show, that must be 50 years ago. I delivered spare parts to them in my 20’s
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Probably the first manufacturer to fit upright exhausts as a factory option was Volvo with their third series F10/12/16’s, some were likely fitted by OD’s before then or converted older systems to bling the motor up but I don’t recall any UK makers fitting them during the 70’s or early 80’s but I wouldn’t bank on it. The Lawson’s motor below looks to be one of these detailed jobs especially with the bumper and lights etc. The Newsome’s motor would have had this factory fitted I would think. Franky.
Punchy Dan:
I’am Just trying to work out what year and on what make of lorry did eminox style upright exhausts start appearing, I’ve a 1972 Dennis cess sucker with an original stainless pipe bracketed up the back of the cab ( pipe only not silencer box ) .
What about the 50s/60s Fordson tractors with the “rattler” rain shield?
I’ve already got me coat!
I apprenticed at RHP Bearings from 1975 - 1981
They had some Leyland Buffalo units with stacks up the back of the cab. had a nice whistle to them too
Toddy2:
I apprenticed at RHP Bearings from 1975 - 1981
They had some Leyland Buffalo units with stacks up the back of the cab. had a nice whistle to them too
You just sort of feel for Leyland - like the bloke who invented 6up! So nearly there! Why ditch what you already know to move into fixed head? Why give away the 680 technology to Daf? Why not put a turbocharger on it? So many things where the Brits did all the work and others profited! I’m sure others understand it better than I do!
Foden big cam 290 in 1979 , turbo on the drivers side 90degree down , 90degree across under the gear box , 90degree forward , 90degree right into front mounted silencer . Only Foden could have thought that out instead of 90degree from turbo into the silencer . Could never get the fitters to do that instead of endlessly replacing thr bends when they rusted out .
Toddy2:
I apprenticed at RHP Bearings from 1975 - 1981
They had some Leyland Buffalo units with stacks up the back of the cab. had a nice whistle to them too
I think the standard Buffalo exhaust Was up the back of the cab. There was an option for it to be mounted at the front for applications like fuel tankers etc.
Tyneside
Punchy Dan:
I’am Just trying to work out what year and on what make of lorry did eminox style upright exhausts start appearing, I’ve a 1972 Dennis cess sucker with an original stainless pipe bracketed up the back of the cab ( pipe only not silencer box ) .
Ooer- that name ‘Eminox’ still makes me shudder, 20 odd years after dealing with them. I was making a lot of large capacity fuel tanks at the time,and often fitting upright exhausts to make some more ‘tank’ space on the chassis.
Some of my customers just said fit an ‘Eminox’ - using it as a ‘generic’ term for an upright exhaust - whereas some people specifically wanted an ‘Eminox’, as they thought they were the ‘bees knees’ - which they weren’t, in terms of quality, fit, price, and customer relations…
Better quality exhausts - and much cheaper too, came out of Warrington from a couple of companies - Dynex, who were my preferred supplier, or Wasey, who weren’t far behind Dynex. Both of these Warrington companies were a pleasure to deal with, compared to the ‘E’ word.
Wasey in particular specialised in municipal vehicle exhausts, and may well have fitted out your Dennis Dan, if they were around at the time.
Cheers, Keith
Sure the Buffalo i drove was M reg, so '73 registration? Leyland must have been one of the first adopters of a standard upright stack.
With the turbocharged engine the vehicle was quite a flyer, the range change box used was perfect for the engine’s power delivery each change ideally spaced making rapid progress possible, as said it sounded superb too.
Something a bit different on this subject!
Jeddah Saudi Arabia in about 1977/8 - Trans Arabia with a small fleet of ERF’s working in and out of the sport of Jeddah - you had to enter the port thru the port rear entrance for empty vehicles - stop - show the guard your pass and eventually be allowed in - most truck exhaust were lower mounted with the fumes being pushed to the left, the security guards became fed up with this so an edict/procuration wad issue with immediate effect that all heavy vehicles had to have stack exhausts - otherwise no entry to the port - no Period of grace - immediate. Just imagine the panic and trying to source the necessary equipment.
That’s how life was.
Ken b
Juddian:
Sure the Buffalo i drove was M reg, so '73 registration? Leyland must have been one of the first adopters of a standard upright stack.
With the turbocharged engine the vehicle was quite a flyer, the range change box used was perfect for the engine’s power delivery each change ideally spaced making rapid progress possible, as said it sounded superb too.
Some of those Leyland tippers had a horizontal silencer box up behind the cab although not a stainless one .
The ERF one is perhaps the worst design ever , the foden type made by eminox is by far the heaviest ever .
Well in my time I have paid out quite a bit on Eminox exausts as has been mentioned it freed up space on the chassis and I used to have boxes made to stow gear in like toolboxes and oil cans etc, they were not a cheap item back in the day and I can remember taking motors to them for while you wait fitting think they had a place in Abington IIRC. to be honest I never had a quibble about quality and found them to be sound. The first examples I had were on a 141 as in the picture below and also had one fitted on the first new motor I bought which was a Globetrotter in 1986.
When we had our first FH Volvo’s the factory upright exausts used to lean out so you could not fit the wind deflector kit that side so we got MC truck & Bus to cut and shut the frame so we could fit the kit, once we had that done on the first four in early 94 every body else followed suit and in the end Volvo modified it before it left the factory.
Eminox and other upright exausts are ok to a point, more glitz and glamour really and if they were not high enough the exaust gases could make a hell of a mess on a tilt of worse on a white fridge box, cheers Buzzer.
I had an upright eminox on my daf 3300 in the 80s.Not for bling though.It would outlast several standard daf exhausts fitted close to ground level.
A poster above mentioned the docks in Jedda,Saudi Arabia.I used to work out of Yanbu as yard supervisor with about 30 or so standard middle east type merc tractor units.They did the round trip most days.One day our local police chief decided that all trucks had to have flashing amber lights on the roof.All of them.NOW.Panic to source and fit them.
Next day on the way to Jedda the police chief in Rabigh,about half way to Jedda) stopped all the trucks and asked what all the lights were about.When told, he decided that they were illegal and had to be removed on the spot.
Don’t you just love it!
The 16 ‘M’ reg. (1973 -74) AEC Mandators Turners had for the British Sugar contract had upright exhaust stacks. it was a requirement of the contract and quite enlightened thinking for the time. The reason being to keep exhaust fumes away from the driver when he was blowing off the tank.
The subsequent makes on that contract also had upright exhausts, Volvo FL10, DAF 85, ERF E10
The fixed head engine Leyland Buffalo of that era had the exhaust at the back of the cab as already stated. This was the standard fitting, the option being the front mounted exhaust for fuel tankers and to comply with pet. regs.
4 inch stack with pipes on eBay ,a bit modern looking for the Dennis may be .
kmills:
Punchy Dan:
I’am Just trying to work out what year and on what make of lorry did eminox style upright exhausts start appearing, I’ve a 1972 Dennis cess sucker with an original stainless pipe bracketed up the back of the cab ( pipe only not silencer box ) .Ooer- that name ‘Eminox’ still makes me shudder, 20 odd years after dealing with them. I was making a lot of large capacity fuel tanks at the time,and often fitting upright exhausts to make some more ‘tank’ space on the chassis.
Some of my customers just said fit an ‘Eminox’ - using it as a ‘generic’ term for an upright exhaust - whereas some people specifically wanted an ‘Eminox’, as they thought they were the ‘bees knees’ - which they weren’t, in terms of quality, fit, price, and customer relations…
Better quality exhausts - and much cheaper too, came out of Warrington from a couple of companies - Dynex, who were my preferred supplier, or Wasey, who weren’t far behind Dynex. Both of these Warrington companies were a pleasure to deal with, compared to the ‘E’ word.
Wasey in particular specialised in municipal vehicle exhausts, and may well have fitted out your Dennis Dan, if they were around at the time.
Cheers, Keith
Punchy Dan:
Juddian:
Sure the Buffalo i drove was M reg, so '73 registration? Leyland must have been one of the first adopters of a standard upright stack.
With the turbocharged engine the vehicle was quite a flyer, the range change box used was perfect for the engine’s power delivery each change ideally spaced making rapid progress possible, as said it sounded superb too.Some of those Leyland tippers had a horizontal silencer box up behind the cab although not a stainless one .
The first two Bison tippers we had (H and N reg) had the 500 engine with the exhaust along the chassis. We had a P reg Octopus with the 502 / fuller combo which had the vertical exhaust. The 502 was introduced into the Bison about 1977 and the standard exhaust was vertical. About W reg the TL 11 was introduced into the Bison and the exhaust was back along the chassis. Tyneside
G.Lowdon Ltd Of Seaton Burn had a Leyland B/L, An ex David Spouse tractor unit from Dunns, It had a vertical stack with a flapper on the top, It was a L reg , It used to go well & was nice to listen too If I may say so 
, When changing gear it had a great sound, Regards Larry.