Hello drivers.
I would like to know,
Can hgv class 2 drivers get prosecuted for driving down a road, thats meant to be unsuitable for hgv lorrys…
I made a mistake, following my sat nav
That directed me along rarrow road,
At the same time a small van
was coming towards me
Only for the driver of the van being difficult
That refused to park in layby so I could have room to pass.
When he decided to park in layby
He reserved without looking and hit another car that was now in the layby
Then he blamed me for accident
And then called police…
4 police cars arrive inside 10 minutes,
That would not happen if there was a bank robbery going on
dont worry about it and as for van driver think you can call it karma…
i had similar years ago In Bradford, delivering to a pub that was on a street that was a dead end, used to reverse to pub and do drop… locals knew you could cut through the back alleys, we were round back of pub dropping kegs into cellar and heard the horn blowing, car driver getting annoyed as we had no option but to block road… said 5 minutes and carried on, heard the revs and then the crunch ran round front of pub expecting to see driver in back of truck but no he had reversed at speed, however not seeing the X5 behind him, even worse the owner was off duty police officer… cant bear karma…
I did say to the police, who were throwing loads of questions and accusations at me,
( I wished I recorded them saying this below )
because my lorry was here,
They were saying, the accident happened.
I told the police, no way can I be hold responsible for other drivers actions.
They said, I should not be using the road that had a sign saying unsuitable for hgv lorrys,
I did tell the police I was using my own discressing and knowledge, driving along this road.
Then they decided to book me for unlawful use of a road.
This charge can’t stand against me, can it ?
i would not have thought so tbh, but i,m not certain so hopefully someone will give better advise…
however I have delivered to plenty farms where the access is by going pass one of these signs, and there was a spot in Halifax, cant think of the place name at the mo but again only access is by passing one of these signs and there is a factory that have several trucks in and out…
I live on such a road, believe me the sign means what it says - unsuitable. By that it indicates that it may be too narrow, you may not be able to get round a bend or corner or a hill may be too steep for you to climb. The dust cart gets up and down my road without too much trouble, but full size artics generally come to a grinding halt with wheelspin right in the middle of the S bend on the steepest part of the narrow hill… and that is normally it until recovery arrives. As has been said the sign does not mean prohibited although when the police have come out in the past to organise recovery for non-English speaking drivers, the uneducated among them generally make a bit of a fuss about a banned road; which it is not.
If you have damaged property - trees, fences and the grass banks belong to someone - then you could be charged with failing to report an accident, but if the police took your details at the scene then this is hardly likely. Perhaps your best course of action might be to present insurance details at your local police station, this would be as soon as possible after this incident in your case, thus meeting any obligation. Be very careful about what you say and is recorded although you will have to explain why you are presenting details.
Like others I don’t think you’ve got anything to worry about, the police often have no idea what they’re talking about and this one was probably ■■■■■■ off at you for using the road without a good reason.
I’m not disputing what cav says as he seems to know the score by actually living on an ’ unsuitable’
However in my case I have to use them all the time on Cornwall farm deliveries, and on an artic not a Class2.
(I was even thinking of a paralell career of tree and hedge trimmer using my 14 6 trailer to make a few extra quid while doing my main job at same time. )
Ok I aint stupid, I obviously always ring ahead first to check for access, suitability and manouverability, but you get the odd one who is only interested in getting his farm building at any cost and will tell you anything, …so I have had a few arse twitching moments myself looking for potential turn arounds en route to farm, and/or getting there and trying to turn around on a postage stamp.
I have also come across the complete arse on a single track who will not move , even after an altercation, but I find that if I put my feet up on steering wheel and pretend to read the newspaper they soon get sick and see sense.
So basically mate I would not worry, the fact that matey hit a car was his own fault for being a knob in the first place by refusing to move.
I don’t know how long you’ve been driving mate but you have just learned a valuable lesson…‘‘Do NOT fully rely on sat navs’’…, use them as a guide backed up with something like google earth, or perish the thought., wait for it… a Trucker’s map.
Or as tachograph says, stay off unsuitables…even better.
That is one of the reasons I do not have an all bells and whistles expensive truck sat nav, but a basic one, even if I wanted one (or needed one which I don’t) the places I go every week would tell it that they are unsuitable for trucks and I would never get any of my drops off.
Red rings or circles tell you what you must not do, e.g. you must not exceed 30 mph or no vehicles over the weight shown may proceed.
I’d read a sign with a red circle as “prohibited”
Where as signs with a red triangle as “advisory”
As for class 2 deliveries (such as pallet networks) encountering an “unsuitable” road sign, it’s usually a case of stop, call either the office or customer for advice before proceeding. Put the decision in the hands of the boss, or ask the customer to come meet you. I’d rather fail a delivery than get myself in a situation that may end up causing me a whole load of grief.
Before someone asks I’ve had the T-shirt years ago, taking an Artic down a street I shouldn’t have gone. iirc it was to a builders merchant in BSE, going through a 7.5T past the magistrates and ending up in a cul-de-sac. Squeezing past parked cars by driving up the pavement. I got in OK. It on the way out a woman stepped out of her gateway in front of me with a pram, I swerved & the trailer stepped off the kerb and the taillift frame ended up taking off 13 wing mirrors before I left the street. The cops ended up sending me a letter giving me a rollicking and asking for insurance details.
I smell bs with the OP. I’ve never heard of a driver being prosecuted for an accident they weren’t involved in. Also a traffic copper should know that the unsuitable signs are advisory. I drive along unsuitable roads all the time, if the powers that be have a problem with that then stop granting planning permission to developers.
No offence to the OP but we’re not getting the full facts.
Anyone done sugarich in Falkirk. 2 roads into it and both are marked up “unsuitable for long vehicles”
One way is an abouslute nightmare and you need to go right over bushes almost in a field to do the turn.The other way is perfectly fine.
Now if it was illegal to go up these roads how did sugarich get an olicence for their own trucks?
Me personally I’d stop and google steeet view the whole road. Some are fine to go down but some are a nightmare and you could get stuck if you’re not careful.
Drive through an “unsuitable for HGVs” zone down an A road every time I go to our Radlett depot. Its got that because there is a short stretch of road a few hundred yards where its too narrow for HGVs to pass each other and not clip the cars parked at the side of the road. Everyone who drives down it regularly knows this so if you see another truck coming you wait until its passed then go on your merry way. Its not signposted as unsuitable if you’re coming from the other direction out of London. Given the amount of B&Q double deckers you see using the same road as they have a depot on the same business park you’d have thought that if it were illegal you’d not see one.
It’s no different than the “unsuitable for motors” sign.
All it means is we advise you not to go there as the road surface is ■■■■■ or non existent , nothing illegal about doing so though.
I frequently look for these roads to purposely drive my Landrover down.
galeforce96:
Hello drivers.
I would like to know,
Can hgv class 2 drivers get prosecuted for driving down a road, thats meant to be unsuitable for hgv lorrys…
I made a mistake, following my sat nav
That directed me along rarrow road,
At the same time a small van
was coming towards me
Only for the driver of the van being difficult
That refused to park in layby so I could have room to pass.
When he decided to park in layby
He reserved without looking and hit another car that was now in the layby
Then he blamed me for accident
And then called police…
4 police cars arrive inside 10 minutes,
That would not happen if there was a bank robbery going on
I see you’re posting under another new name,same made up bad grammar,who are you going to be next week?
galeforce96:
Hello drivers.
I would like to know,
Can hgv class 2 drivers get prosecuted for driving down a road, thats meant to be unsuitable for hgv lorrys…
I made a mistake, following my sat nav
That directed me along rarrow road,
At the same time a small van
was coming towards me
Only for the driver of the van being difficult
That refused to park in layby so I could have room to pass.
When he decided to park in layby
He reserved without looking and hit another car that was now in the layby
Then he blamed me for accident
And then called police…
4 police cars arrive inside 10 minutes,
That would not happen if there was a bank robbery going on
I see you’re posting under another new name,same made up bad grammar,who are you going to be next week?
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