tyres

just had 2 new drive tyres fitted and noticed the date on them is 2005
I’ve asked for my money back, they are claiming there’s nothing wrong with them and ok to run with

would you drive with them

I would phone trading standards.

DVSA are making noises about any commercial vehicle running tyres over 10 years old, I think it was along the lins of they wouldnt/couldnt prosecute but would take a dim view of any operator doing so.

Are you sure you read the codes correctly? got a pic?

I brought them from a tyre wholesaler
went to my local tyre fitter who struggled to put air in because the wall had gone hard they checked the date

If you paid 2005 prices they maybe have a point but in General 6 years is about the shelf life of a tire,

In Europe we are more precise and know how to spell Tyre

The European Tyre and Rim Technical Organisation (ETRTO) clearly specifies that when stored in optimal conditions, tyres may be considered new for 5 years from the date of manufacture.
A tyre sold as a new product may be safely used for at least 5-6 years. Some sources indicate that the upper limit of operational life may be even 10 years, but we recommend that 5 years after the purchase, tyres should be checked by a specialist at least once a year.

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The first two numbers are the week of manufacture and the last two numbers are the year.

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The relatives of those who died in both incidents which were related to over age tyres have been lobbying MPs to outlaw tyres over ten years old. While this may take 18 months to 2 years to come in effect you will be lumbered with having to renew what will probably be only part worn tyres. It is clearly your choice but you would do well to kick up a right stink now.

he called me back after with a different attitude
had 2 new tyres delivered this morning from him
but his still claiming I’m in the wrong

sheep1:
he called me back after with a different attitude
had 2 new tyres delivered this morning from him
but his still claiming I’m in the wrong

Name and Shame, its not your fault he has ■■■■ stock control

More likely tyre guy got some cheapies on a deal and wasnt counting on a savvy customer.

This knob is chasing me for another £40
Would you pay ?
Cost me 2 days off work and £40 for fitting the new tyres he give me

No, don’t pay. Or do pay but charge him for the lost labour time of taking time out to get the old new tyres removed and the new new tyres fitted. Also charge fuel and labour for getting to and from the fitter, unless they came to you. Recharge all costs associated with the second fitting.

Ask him if he still wants to quibble over £40?

I did think the same
Were do I legally stand if he takes me to court ?

sheep1:
I did think the same
Were do I legally stand if he takes me to court ?

I have no idea about that but this was a recent(ish) statement by DVSA :-

"From today (23 November 2018), if the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) finds a tyre more than 10 years old as part of its routine heavy vehicle enforcement work, it will carry out follow-up investigations on the vehicle operator.

If the operator cannot give an adequate explanation for using an old tyre, or their tyre management systems are not up to standard, DVSA may refer them to the Office of the Traffic Commissioner for potential regulatory action"

If your tyre man is part of any trade association or whatever maybe contact them.

Personally, based on what you have said, I think he is a cowboy.

sheep1:
I did think the same
Were do I legally stand if he takes me to court ?

He won’t. It will cost more than the value of the claim.

And if he does, just pay it. In the grand scheme of things, what’s £40? Less than a third of a day’s labour. Not worth blackening your credit rating over.

That being said, I would be prepared to push it right to the point of legal action. I would also change my tyre company with extreme haste and prejudice.

nsmith1180:

sheep1:
I did think the same
Were do I legally stand if he takes me to court ?

He won’t. It will cost more than the value of the claim.

And if he does, just pay it. In the grand scheme of things, what’s £40? Less than a third of a day’s labour. Not worth blackening your credit rating over.

That being said, I would be prepared to push it right to the point of legal action. I would also change my tyre company with extreme haste and prejudice.

I was going to go to court and explain to then what has happened and if they say I need to pay I would or would I still get a black mark for this ?

I have changed company, this has taught me to stop being tight to save a few quid

sheep1:
I was going to go to court and explain to then what has happened and if they say I need to pay I would or would I still get a black mark for this ?

Yes, because you would have a court judgement against you.

I always say, no matter what size the vehicle, tyres and brakes are the one part you never try to save a few quid on. After all, its just those contact patches and those discs that are stopping a very nasty accident.