globby 480:
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Father and son drivers operating out of ‘The Port elixstowe’ were sentenced to prison last week after pleading guilty to falsifying tachograph records.
Good. Perhaps you’re happy at sharing the road with drivers who can’t keep their eyes openn whilst in charge of 44 tonnes travelling at 56MPH but personally I’m not [zb]. It could be suggested that maybe you do this which is why you’re so narked as you see “nowt wrong with it, just earning a crust”.
Conor:
globby 480:
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Father and son drivers operating out of ‘The Port elixstowe’ were sentenced to prison last week after pleading guilty to falsifying tachograph records.
Good. Perhaps you’re happy at sharing the road with drivers who can’t keep their eyes openn whilst in charge of 44 tonnes travelling at 56MPH but personally I’m not and your rant just confirms you’re as much of a prick as they are. It could be suggested that maybe you do this which is why you’re so narked as you see “nowt wrong with it, just earning a crust”.
Bad because they are probably occupying the cells which should be used to hold blokes like the one on the ■■■ offenders list who’s just confessed to being involved in the death of a girl found dead in a ditch yesterday.But of course there’s no room to lock up those like him because all the jails are full of road transport ‘offenders’.So what was wrong with just taking their O licence away for good and giving them a suspended sentence and using those cells to lock up idiots who run around killing people■■?.
Carryfast:
So what was wrong with just taking their O licence away for good and giving them a suspended sentence and using those cells to lock up idiots who run around killing people■■?.
Probably because they blatantly broke the law risking many more lives and would not give a ■■■■ about not having an O licence after all, they blatantly risked others lives driving long hours, so why would they bother about losing their O Licence.?
■■■ offenders should be taken out of society for good, but it’s not because of the cells being full of drivers breaking the laws that they are not, it’s because of all the Political Correctness Bull [zb] this country has adopted from Europe.
It is a fair sentence if it applied to everyone but it does not, MAGNETS ECT ECT,
fuse:
It is a fair sentence if it applied to everyone but it does not, MAGNETS ECT ECT,
Totally Agree with you but then again, Life aint fair is it?
Broken Britain living up to its shamefull name once again! Place sux!
Koop:
Shoulda got 12 years!Made an example of…they wont run bent again!
As for kiddy fiddlers and muggers and so on…shoot them.
so you never been,for instance half hour,3 quarter or so away from home before your time is us up and thinking wish i could get someone to drive this last bit so i could get back home to my own bed,lorry safely parked in the yard or whatever instead of paying 20 quid for a crap services or being in a rancid layby.
I do the same for my dad most weeks so he can see my mum,be at home a bit more etc,he is an owner driver and is out 5 an a half days a week generally,i don’t work for him but do a multidrop job n finish in the day within 20 miles of base.so what harm am i doing?,i also work out for 2 hours 3 times a week so dont give me that that ‘I’ aint had enough rest rubbish.cos there aint no law about that is there?
so should me and my dad get 12 years then?fume!
c’mon,think about it,what would you do?
Conor:
globby 480:
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Father and son drivers operating out of ‘The Port elixstowe’ were sentenced to prison last week after pleading guilty to falsifying tachograph records. .
Good. Perhaps you’re happy at sharing the road with drivers who can’t keep their eyes openn whilst in charge of 44 tonnes travelling at 56MPH but personally I’m not and your rant just confirms you’re as much of a prick as they are. It could be suggested that maybe you do this which is why you’re so narked as you see “nowt wrong with it, just earning a crust”.
glad to see your post on this and i take it you support people been sent home onrape charges then and back in the real world again because the main bit get of with it, no i aint narked with it just seems a harsh way this time no one was hurt, and as i say conor i dont condol running like that as said earlier ,so “it may be suggested wrong i do this as you so say” as i dont. i learnt the hard way!! but i aint on about drivers running bent on this thread and this and that, i am saying its harsh when other people comit a lot worse offences than these two have done and get away scott free
there is a few conor who carnt keep there eyes open running straight!! with 44t traveling at 56mph but you are will to share the road with these arnt you,
and please note!!! the lap top is playing up only posted half of reply for 2 re edits as you will see with davys quote below it was not typed like the below try"d to change on first post etc but would only let me type few words at a time, so the below post wasnt ment to “say conor was a ■■■■■■ in any shape or form”, sorry about that part,but having to keep posting then re editing this post due to over sensitive lap top for some reason in only sending parts of this on to the board?, this is now the 9th edit on this bloody post now and hopefully it should post all complete
globby 480:
this makes me laff the courts pass custodial sentences on two drivers yep ok what they did was wrong!!!
but the law of the land is a total,total FARCE, you read and see the news where gangs mug poor old ladys etc and get a 2 week all pay holiday to try to learn them not to re offend my kin arse, people mess around with little kiddies and get what 2 weeks horse riding and genral activitiesto try to teach them not to re offend the law is a total pee take, if your in the system the system works for you robbing peoples houses,taking there cars and what do they get yet again sod all!!!
ok here is two drivers who did a little nawty running “old chestnut” but they go to prison basically for going to work and paying into the system to keep all the pond life out there and the imigrants what is flooding this country and bleeding it dry,yes i know they did a bad act and made false records BOOOG A BLOODY lOOO,ok they didnt hurt anyone “this time”
my rant here is the law is a peeee take going to prison for working to long,this country is shot to bits , i aint condoning bent runing as we have had this posted on here time and time again,ayhe whiter than whiter brigade will be out again i guess, why dont they send all the car theifs,old people bashers, and most all those dirty pervs who mess with kids these should be hung never mind sent to prison, but oooh no they are let of to re offend time and time and time again and still nothing, you work and go to knick MERCHANT BANKERS!!!
kevin reed ought to join the police force if hes that good and make the streets a safe place aswell.HAVE A READ ANYWAY, and the whiter than whiter brigade kiss my stump before you start
Father and son drivers operating out of ‘The Port elixstowe’ were sentenced to prison last week after pleading guilty to falsifying tachograph records.
The Judge at Ipswich Crown Court heard from prosecuting Barrister, Miles Bennett how the son had allowed his name to be used on tachograph record sheets to hide excess driving and insufficient rest.
Father, Colin Linder was sentenced to six months in prison after knowingly making 20 false records and disqualified from driving for 12 months. His son Sean Newson, also the CPC holder was sentenced to four months for knowingly falsifying 16 tachograph records due to, as the Judge described “misguided loyalty towards his father”.
The Judge at Ipswich Crown Court has sent a clear message out to the industry - drivers who allow their names to be used on tachographs records by others will face a custodial sentence.
Alex Fiddes, Chief Operating Officer for VOSA said: ‘’This case highlights the severity of fraudulent records.
‘’We are dedicated in improving road safety and a large proportion of that is ensuring drivers are adhering to the rules. We take falsification of tachograph records extremely seriously. As this case has proved it can result in a prison sentence.‘’
No costs were incurred by either perpetrator due to their financial circumstances.
Kevin Reid, the investigating VOSA Traffic Examiner has been awarded a Judges Commendation for his diligence in the case.
why were they running bent■■?,the jobs on its arse 
,carnt afford to employ anyone,trying to do a bit to make ends meet 
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propa lorry:
Koop:
Shoulda got 12 years!Made an example of…they wont run bent again!
As for kiddy fiddlers and muggers and so on…shoot them.
so you never been,for instance half hour,3 quarter or so away from home before your time is us up and thinking wish i could get someone to drive this last bit so i could get back home to my own bed,lorry safely parked in the yard or whatever instead of paying 20 quid for a crap services or being in a rancid layby.
I do the same for my dad most weeks so he can see my mum,be at home a bit more etc,he is an owner driver and is out 5 an a half days a week generally,i don’t work for him but do a multidrop job n finish in the day within 20 miles of base.so what harm am i doing?,i also work out for 2 hours 3 times a week so dont give me that that ‘I’ aint had enough rest rubbish.cos there aint no law about that is there?
so should me and my dad get 12 years then?fume!
c’mon,think about it,what would you do?
propa, and the rest on here i am not trying to say this that or the other , what i am trying to say is the sentence is harsh, yes they broke the law it doesnt matter with the facts of life, they broke the law ok, and yes punishment is deserved/needed, but thankfull no one was hurt!! and only a very few “thank GOD do get hurt due to tired drivers, yes no one should get hurt due to tiredness etc but it does happen” but a drink driver doesnt go to prison unless the killS or re offend a few times, a tierd driver is the same as a drunk drive or so the vostapo put across in the courts! if the law was the same through out the land i for one wouldnt be saying anything regarding this but life isnt fair, it should BE!! but it isnt, everyone has diffrent opions on this matter but i for one dont think they needed to be sent to prison for this this is all i am trying to say, there is a lot more ways to punish them with out a custodial sentence,
this bloody laptop aaaaaaaargh
Ok Globby lets look at it this way.
Lets say the 2 of them got a £1000 fine and 500 hrs of community service
What message would that send out to other hauliers trying to make a living?
They could take the view that £1000 is a drop in the ocean compared to what they can rake in until they get caught, the community service would be at a rate of about 3 hrs a week, which they would probably do during their daily or weekly rest period.
Instead they got Jail, to highlight the seriousness of their wilful law breaking for greed, not stupidity but greed, they were obviously undercutting the rates that much to stop law abiding hauliers getting the work, so really there’s another charge called theft, they were stealing income from other hauliers by doing the job too cheap so they had to work the long hours to make a living, unfortunately my indian meals turned up so I cant add a lot of things that I was going to add to their list of misdemeanours 
ok davey your right , but lets take a look at say saudi where you steal they cut ya hand of yes, but they still do it dont they, and run the risk even if it means loosing a hand,
comunity service mmmmh that is a balls ache have you ever done it■■? if you havent mate you aint a clue!! if you have you should know what a pain in the arse it is working your hours of but as i say davy everyone has there own say, plus as you should know, you carnt/shouldnt do community service on a rest period your breaking the law as its classed as other work correct me if i am wrong!!
you loose you hgv licence anyway so your on a long rest period
loss of o lic, loss of hgv lic, and re test after ban, community serv 500 hrs jesus it would take you years to work that amount of at 7~8hrs one day a week, ,
but on a post earlier last week man found witha magnet on got £200 fine?? whats the diffrence from a son /mate putting a chart in to using a magnet think you will find they both relate to falsifcation of records “fact” so what does that say to other hauliers we best not put a name on a chart, but i put a magnet on we will get £200 fine if we get caught phaaaa they spend that down the local on a friday night £200, been happy cause they only got a £200 fine and no prison ban etc,read the posts right davy old pal, people cutting rates mmmmmh yer it happens but most companys tell you what the rate is anyway be it a job rate or ppm rate and i would say 90% of companys tell you the rate if you want to work for it thats up to you,
so for misdemeanours ,■■? and you could have ask"d the rest of us if we wanted a indian ya git wi ya
misdemeanours
thiis laptop
Rikki-UK:
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5. When this industry stops simply contracting on price and starts looking at quality then we may see these problems drop, however while waiting for that to happen i am investing in my cash in a new project to help pigs fly
you looking for new investors in this new project 
, looks like it could get of to a flying start
Read all of the replys still comes down to the basics should these guys be jailed, awnser no, end of story for christs sake they where just trying to make a living, live in the real world there are worse offenders than hauliers who need locking up.
Pauly99:
Read all of the replys still comes down to the basics should these guys be jailed, awnser no, end of story for christs sake they where just trying to make a living, live in the real world there are worse offenders than hauliers who need locking up.
We are all just trying to make a living, to feed our family. a simple fine would not work, it would just be added to the haulage rates, there is a large Dutch company who run fridges with blue and white Scanias who “paid the fines” it got so bad that that the Brit was replaced by 2 Poles because the fines were getting much higher and more frequent, it didn’t stop the company doing it though.
There are more than one Dutch company who work like this, maybe it is time to start jailing the company directors too.
Someone earlier in the thread mentioned, you cannot choose which laws to break and which are not important. Until more drivers go to jail the message will not get through
Wheel Nut:
maybe it is time to start jailing the company directors too
The title of this thread is two drivers go to jail!!! but is it really that 
Have they jailed the DRIVERS or the OWNERS (directors)
ROG:
Wheel Nut:
maybe it is time to start jailing the company directors tooThe title of this thread is two drivers go to jail!!! but is it really that
Have they jailed the DRIVERS or the OWNERS (directors)
Spose so,
“misguided loyalty towards his father”.
Father is company director and son is CPC holder 
Pauly99:
Read all of the replys still comes down to the basics should these guys be jailed, awnser no, end of story for christs sake they where just trying to make a living, live in the real world there are worse offenders than hauliers who need locking up.
here here,in a lot of cases its survival,not greed.