Carryfast:
switchlogic:
newmercman:
Using Carryfast’s logicIsn’t that an oxymoron?
Absolutely terrifying all over the road and around 100 kmh too.
Errrrr, what? Do you know what an oxymoron is?
I don’t but the moron bit makes sense.
kr79:
I don’t but the moron bit makes sense.
Indeed 
It means two contradictory statements. So Carryfast and logic are an oxymoron as they clearly mean opposite things.
Sounds like most of Geoffreys posts.
switchlogic:
kr79:
I don’t but the moron bit makes sense.Carryfast and logic are an oxymoron as they clearly mean opposite things.
Only from the point of view of someone who views logic in the opposite way to which it actually applies in the real world.In this case that would be anyone who thinks that a turnpike doubles outfit is just a bogged up piece of kit that can’t be driven in a straight line and isn’t a more cost effective way of hauling freight over long distances. 
The people who are on the ground dealing with them in real life not sitting in front of a computer with baby wipes watching you tube you mean.
kr79:
The people who are on the ground dealing with them in real life not sitting in front of a computer with baby wipes watching you tube you mean.
I think the only one ‘dealing with them in real life’ here seems to be on the road again 
.Who’s comments didn’t seem to be a million miles away from mine .
I think the only reason as to why I’m not in the that position,of being able to state my case first hand had more to do with Canadian immigration and work permit policy during the 1980’s than any doubts about driving one when I’d got the job. 
As my boss says usually at last knockings on a Friday. You can do anything if you try hard enough so how comes you never found a way to get there?
kr79:
As my boss says usually at last knockings on a Friday. You can do anything if you try hard enough so how comes you never found a way to get there?
Your boss obviously never had any dealings with Canadian,let alone US,immigration and asking them for a work permit during the 1980’s. 
Couldn’t you have just married someone out there. They love an English accent especially down south. A man with your charm would have been knee deep in clunge.
Quick trip down the drive through elvis wedding Chappell and its green card sorted.
kr79:
Couldn’t you have just married someone out there. They love an English accent especially down south. A man with your charm would have been knee deep in clunge.
Quick trip down the drive through elvis wedding Chappell and its green card sorted.
He’d of been back on the plane before the ink was dry. You have to work for a living out there 
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
kr79:
I don’t but the moron bit makes sense.Carryfast and logic are an oxymoron as they clearly mean opposite things.
Only from the point of view of someone who views logic in the opposite way to which it actually applies in the real world.In this case that would be anyone who thinks that a turnpike doubles outfit is just a bogged up piece of kit that can’t be driven in a straight line and isn’t a more cost effective way of hauling freight over long distances.
Oh that’s the pot calling the kettle black. You keep forgetting you barely have much experience of the real world of haulage in the UK let alone the US you fruit loop. As for ‘turnpikes’ I have no opinion as I’ve no experience of them on the road or driving.
Oh hang on I’ve just read it again, you are of course referring to yourself as the one who ‘who views logic in the opposite way to which it actually applies in the real world’. Of course, now I get you.
Carryfast:
kr79:
As my boss says usually at last knockings on a Friday. You can do anything if you try hard enough so how comes you never found a way to get there?Your boss obviously never had any dealings with Canadian,let alone US,immigration and asking them for a work permit during the 1980’s.
Are you telling us you tried properly then? You don’t even have to balls to go for a euro job so I’m not sure I believe you tried to move to the US
billybigrig:
kr79:
Couldn’t you have just married someone out there. They love an English accent especially down south. A man with your charm would have been knee deep in clunge.
Quick trip down the drive through elvis wedding Chappell and its green card sorted.
He’d of been back on the plane before the ink was dry. You have to work for a living out there
I thought they only worked 11 hours a day?
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
kr79:
As my boss says usually at last knockings on a Friday. You can do anything if you try hard enough so how comes you never found a way to get there?Your boss obviously never had any dealings with Canadian,let alone US,immigration and asking them for a work permit during the 1980’s.
Are you telling us you tried properly then? You don’t even have to balls to go for a euro job so I’m not sure I believe you tried to move to the US
Your wrong the euro jobs just weren’t avalible in the uk in the 80s
(probally the heyday for British international hauliers)
Oh yeah I remember now, really hard to get a job, dead mans shoes, not many jobs, blah blah blah
These contraptions seem to have taken off in a big way since I was last here in 2007, I saw one leaving Penners the other day in The Steinbach rush hour fair play to him he got it round the lights & onto the 12, I was up in the top end of Winnipeg the other night & there where loads of them leaving town, it must be killing the dry freight market stone dead, coming into town with them would only happen here anywhere else theyd be split on the outskirts.
Overtaking them is a tad dodgy & I thought they where limited to 90 but I’m struggling to pass some at 105, Marks right too every where with a bit of parking theres bits of em dropped, we need an unscrupulous hiab bloke here to clean them up a bit & show them some parking etiquette, that ind est in Saskatoon is a joke & Bison have there own yard on it so why they allow em to use the surrounding roads is beyond Me.
Yes they are a pita in a big way…
I would give most things ago think ill leave turnpikes alone or atleast till got a few miles under my belt.
kr79:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
kr79:
As my boss says usually at last knockings on a Friday. You can do anything if you try hard enough so how comes you never found a way to get there?Your boss obviously never had any dealings with Canadian,let alone US,immigration and asking them for a work permit during the 1980’s.
Are you telling us you tried properly then? You don’t even have to balls to go for a euro job so I’m not sure I believe you tried to move to the US
Your wrong the euro jobs just weren’t avalible in the uk in the 80s
(probally the heyday for British international hauliers)
The fact is the so called ‘heyday of the British international haulage sector’ wasn’t a lot different to what it is now with the exception that the east europeans weren’t a factor at that time.I think you’re putting the 2 + 2 ( of what you’ve heard by owner drivers at the time and/or those employed drivers who were just lucky in being able to either bs their way into the job or already had the experience required that the employers wanted at the time,just as is the case today) together and coming up with 5.For the average uk driver,looking to get off uk work and get onto international,it was about as difficult as doing the same would be today.Although having said that the actual types of work left over,after the east europeans have cherry picked most of the long distance full load traffic,probably makes the job less attractive to anyone with any sense now anyway.
On the subject of (trying to) get into North America to drive trucks during the 1980’s.I’ve told it like it was having been there seen it done it and got the T shirt and told by the immigration authorities,at the time,no way.So effectively it was an impossible labour market for Brit drivers to crack at that time. 
But what that process,together with having been over there plenty of times before that,did tell me,was that doubles operations in North America are nothing new.
The figures here might help confirm what I’m saying concerning Canadian immigration between at least the years 1985-1990 and it seems obvious that the current situation concerning British immigrant drivers working in Canada is a relatively recent issue going by the indigenous drivers’ comments. 
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blogtn.trucknews.com/2011/11/sho … _be_al.htm
By the way the new triples outfit is coupled using fifth wheel connections like a B train not dollys according to one of it’s drivers who says he prefers that to a dolly connected doubles outfit. 
On that note I’d have to agree with nmm and Billybigrig only the Ozzies seem to know how to make a proper roadtrain after all.
The problem with these Turnpikes/A Trains is that there is absolutely no infastructure for them to function properly as things stand now. Wether or not they are the most cost effective way of transporting goods is irrelivent when they’re not fit for purpose. Anything that transports things in greater volume is more cost effective and the same could be said about rail freight, but the inconvenient truth is that trains dont offer the same high speed, door to door service that a truck does and turnpikes are being used in a most inapprorpriate way, ie going into congested towns that are not designed for them and taking over every single piece of parking for regular trucks and making them into their own make shift marshalling yards.
Thankfully they have not taken such a hold here in the Maritimes and even where they do exist, its to very rigid guidelines, they can only go 90kph, which is enforced and they’re only allowed on very limited routes and definetenty not in rush hour. If they get delayed they have to sit outside of town and wait, and they’re only allowed to exit the highway on a certain number of junctions.
The princepal behind them is well and good but putting them into practice in the real world is another matter.