My passport was stollen in Jeddah 1977 ? So I could not get my leave until a new passport was sent from London, and when I got a new One. ■■? They would not issue a exit re/ entry because the passport had no entry stamp in it and how did I get into the Country with out this stamp , it was confusing to there minds !! and this took more time to sort out , eventually I came home on a dryflight ,Saudi Air, With my tong hanging out along with other things ,So if you happen to see ? A bloke who looks like me , with a fan belt on his head it ain’t ME !!! The passport office in Jeddah they had passports under there table leg to stop it wobbling, this is true so you can imagine the state of the place ? It Carn’t still be like that can it. Ron
Ronaldo, how much did you get for that passport? Enough to pay for a good 3 week knees up in Blighty I suspect! Ha! Ha!
I remember you dragging me round to some jewellers in Al Khobar. Working on the premise that I was the only one down the villa with an honest face and therefore the bloke behind the counter was more likely to be taken in, you spun him a story about this valuable diamond you had come across and asked him to make you a substantial offer. After he gazed at this enormous glittering rock through his eye glass, he shook his head and muttered something in Arabic. I suspected it translated to- " Kindly leave my shop you double dyed, camel backed, flip flop wearing, spawney eyed pair of thieving, fibbing, English gentlemen!" Or something like that!
As for that picture of me, you were always making me dress up!!
A few pictures. Not many of interest left to upload now. And, I suspect, some are coming round for the second time!
Great pictures. Reminders of another country and another life.
Firstly Merlin, you look worryingly at home in the thobe and ghutra! Are you sure your mother wasn’t friendly with any Arab Princes? It could be you with the 5 super cars shown in the Mail…
Went out on the bike today for the first time since last Autumn. Such a gorgeous day. Stopped at Devils bridge, Kirkby Lonsdale for the obligatory bacon sandwich and met a guy who had owned and driven a 111 to Greece and Turkey in the early eighties.
Exchanged war stories for a while. When it came time to go, I realised I’d parked the bike forwards towards the kerb on a downslope. A chum of mine has a trick of spinning his bike round on the kick stand. I suspect if I tried it I would have several hundred kgs of Honda on top of me!
Where’s Ron’s circular turntable when you need it? Sorry, Ron, it’s a great idea, but I have to ask for help to even get it up (the bike that is) on the main stand!
John
John West:
Great pictures. Reminders of another country and another life.Firstly Merlin, you look worryingly at home in the thobe and ghutra! Are you sure your mother wasn’t friendly with any Arab Princes? It could be you with the 5 super cars shown in the Mail…
Went out on the bike today for the first time since last Autumn. Such a gorgeous day. Stopped at Devils bridge, Kirkby Lonsdale for the obligatory bacon sandwich and met a guy who had owned and driven a 111 to Greece and Turkey in the early eighties.
Exchanged war stories for a while. When it came time to go, I realised I’d parked the bike forwards towards the kerb on a downslope. A chum of mine has a trick of spinning his bike round on the kick stand. I suspect if I tried it I would have several hundred kgs of Honda on top of me!
Where’s Ron’s circular turntable when you need it? Sorry, Ron, it’s a great idea, but I have to ask for help to even get it up (the bike that is) on the main stand!
John
Devils bridge, long time since I had a bacon sandwich there, was a good pull in with the wagon as well. Les.
Ron …I,ll be back …Bukrah inshallah or there about and hope I,ll see the F89 you had the thrill to sit in …what luxury after the "old " T/A ERF,s
John, I was pleased to hear you where on the bike ,and read your tail with a smile , last year I road my BSA A7 and turned round on my Sisters drive she was out !!! Her drive has a slope? Quite steep ? As I put my foot down, the ground was somewhat lower ? Resulting the bloody lot coming over and trapping My OS LEG under the bike , I am now lying down this drive with the petrol poring out of the tank struggling to get away , f ^^^^^* hell !! eventually. I limped away , flagging a van down the driver helped me to pick it up then I could not not kick it over to start ? Because of the pain in my foot !!! Rolling down the rd I thought it would jump start ?( It would not ) I am now on the main rd with the Number plates of my old BSA on this bike making it look legal ? Unable to start just waiting for the pigs to show up ? As luck would have it our kid came up the rd and saw the state I was in, !!! he saved me from the pigs Har Har ,taking me to the hospital I was on crutches for a couple of weeks but no Broken bones , I sold the A 7 soon after ,I was just thinking if ,Mirlin had been in the same situation with that burqa on ? would I have saved him ? . Ron
Welcome back Backsplice, I thought you may have been Bushwhacked ? I will post a photo of the F 89 in a couple of weeks ? The ERF was easier to clime into ,this 6x4 was a logger from Holland much higher in the saddle , full of dust and dirt , But some truck in its day Ron ,
ronhawk:
Welcome back Backsplice, I thought you may have been Bushwhacked ? I will post a photo of the F 89 in a couple of weeks ? The ERF was easier to clime into ,this 6x4 was a logger from Holland much higher in the saddle , full of dust and dirt , But some truck in its day Ron ,
I don’t like to contradict you Ron, of all people, but wasn’t that unit (117) one of the 4x2 units with 290 ■■■■■■■ and 13-speed Fullers that were a cancelled Swiss order? Robert
robert1952:
ronhawk:
Welcome back Backsplice, I thought you may have been Bushwhacked ? I will post a photo of the F 89 in a couple of weeks ? The ERF was easier to clime into ,this 6x4 was a logger from Holland much higher in the saddle , full of dust and dirt , But some truck in its day Ron ,I don’t like to contradict you Ron, of all people, but wasn’t that unit (117) one of the 4x2 units with 290 ■■■■■■■ and 13-speed Fullers that were a cancelled Swiss order? Robert
Now come on R 52 ? I was referring to the F89when I wrote about this truck was an ex logger from Holland The photo of this will appear in two weeks inshallah
ronhawk:
robert1952:
ronhawk:
Welcome back Backsplice, I thought you may have been Bushwhacked ? I will post a photo of the F 89 in a couple of weeks ? The ERF was easier to clime into ,this 6x4 was a logger from Holland much higher in the saddle , full of dust and dirt , But some truck in its day Ron ,I don’t like to contradict you Ron, of all people, but wasn’t that unit (117) one of the 4x2 units with 290 ■■■■■■■ and 13-speed Fullers that were a cancelled Swiss order? Robert
Now come on R 52 ? I was referring to the F89when I wrote about this truck was an ex logger from Holland The photo of this will appear in two weeks inshallah
OK!
.make sure you have full air , before putting you mouth in gear , Rons quote of the day ,
“The ERF was easier to clime into ,this 6x4 was a logger from Holland much higher in the saddle , full of dust and dirt , But some truck in its day Ron”.
Robert
Backsplice your getting me into deep water , what with me writing about 6x4 F89 !!! with a nit picker jumping on my back !!! confusing it with 4x2 ERF , it’s a good job I can swim ,This thread I love it ,just writing about the good times We had abroad, we had get together with the x pats ,there where a couple of banjo,s and guitars , playing that peace called Diliverance you know the one where it builds up faster & faster ! Larry Norman was drunk in the corner ! Shouting Play Temptation Will Yay , our daughter Sally playing the sinthersizer it was brill , then this singer got up and sang Dany Boy ! He was really good ?so good I congratulated him !!! He said to me that I would have to pay good money to hear him back home ! What a disgrace that some people only do things. for gain instead of just reading our stories for free ,of life experiences , that we had out there in Saudi , and now Evan this thread is getting like ITV with the commercials coming on as for me ,it all about the lads working under that hot hot Sun Ron
I must say the F 89 the other day felt good , I know that Backsplice was proud of this truck when in Saudi , well having climbed up into the cab , it seemed higher than our ERFs with the split screen , and the steel cab it felt strong,like our NGC s so I can understand him going on about this truck + the fact it is a 6x4 , with a spliter box Toggle switch on the stick , I got the feeling that I could have been as good as our 13 Speed fuller going up Teif mountain ? Although we had much heavier loads , our ERF s where loaded beyond all sense pulling up this 1in 5 for three hrs the NGCs was our best truck , in those days, the weight factor along with the heat took its toll on 4x2 s tyres and transmission The ■■■■■■■ engine was brilliant , but the lads all coped well and deserve the praise, Ron
ronhawk:
I must say the F 89 the other day felt good , I know that Backsplice was proud of this truck when in Saudi , well having climbed up into the cab , it seemed higher than our ERFs with the split screen , and the steel cab it felt strong,like our NGC s so I can understand him going on about this truck + the fact it is a 6x4 , with a spliter box Toggle switch on the stick , I got the feeling that I could have been as good as our 13 Speed fuller going up Teif mountain ? Although we had much heavier loads , our ERF s where loaded beyond all sense pulling up this 1in 5 for three hrs the NGCs was our best truck , in those days, the weight factor along with the heat took its toll on 4x2 s tyres and transmission The ■■■■■■■ engine was brilliant , but the lads all coped well and deserve the praise, Ron
I very much enjoyed this post, Ron; especially your comments on the NGCs. I drove F88s and B-series during the early ‘80s and was able to compare the driving experience. They were quite different as you suggest, and of course the Volvo had a synchromesh ‘box. The driver sat higher in the NGC than any of them, even the B-series. The Volvo was lovely to drive, but the cab space was more cramped than the ERFs. Nonetheless it seems that some wise choices of truck were made all round. Cheers, Robert
The street vendors selling sticky sweets and soft drinks , I rember the woman on the left ,was scrapping her child down with cardboard that JD and I laid on to service the trucks ,her child had Diarrhoea she never washed her hands ,it was a very diferent World , the flies loved it , and the sticky sweets , I can see this very scene now , how we survived is a mystery , one lad Peter Slym did not !! He caught Hepatitis B and died from it in England GRHS , he was a great lad and a good friend, big in stature nd allways laughing , Ron
This mountain just North of Jeddah , was right on our door step , this rd was a killer for trucks and men, the trucks that died on this rd and men was through sheer ignorance and not understanding the task they had before them ,with the exhaust system at night, from the manifold to the tail pipe Glowing Red Hot , only fools would over load, resulting in massive problems, on this dangerous Road, to recover ,vehicles in 50 deg heat was exhausting work not to mention the mad Tonker drivers with Allah in the cab , even a blow out was something to dread , there was carnage all over this country , the flat desert rd was just as bad ,the death toll must have been one of highest in the world ,The skill of ,Trans Arabia drivers ,from day one with the A series to the 6x4 Bs together with the extraordinary feats of the mechanics kept our trucks rolling , the life that the ERF s and Mac,s had was hard to say the least , Trans Arabia so different from any other out fit mainly because of our lads ,Ron
So, here we are Ron. I’m 68 today. Merlin has sent me a Facebook message calling me an old git!
Cheeky bugger!
The Asir mountains, the start of which, from Jeddah, was Taif - as you say a long climb in a low gear. As a boy of 21 I used to go over old shap. Admittedly, there was never winter snow on Taif, but it was about 10 times as high as shap.
Then you would wind back and forth and up and down among the peaks and valleys of the mountains, to Abha and Khamis Mushayt. In my case in a 240 HP Saviem.
Some forty years later I still have dreams of climbing those mountains. So steep in my dreams I sometimes fall off backwards and wake sweating!
Also, told before somewhere on here, my dream of the brakes failing on a particular hill on that road. Next morning, being given a load for Khamis. I came down that hill, so vivid in my dream, in first gear! Obviously I survived.
When I had the Amtrak franchise, we had a driver with a Liverpool accent, about 22 years old. One morning, as we were loading, he said ‘ey, John, I’ll have to drive carefully today - I had a phone call at 5.00 am from a friend of mine. He said he’d had a dream that I was going to crash today. Thing is, he had a similar dream about his Grandad dying and later in the day, he found he had!’
Talking to another driver at about midday, I could hear sirens in the background. Sure enough, that driver had cornered too fast, no seatbelt on, gone out through the open window and the van had landed on him!
I don’t believe in life after death and all that stuff, but I do wonder if I’d ignored my fears from the dream whether I would be a long forgotten footnote in history!
John
Well happy Birthday John , you are a mere Boy ■■ 68 !! Thanks for reminding me of Mirlin ?!!! His favourite N/o is was 69 ? No wonder he’s Lost his hair ? But back on the road, and what I got away with, is burnt into my scull ,having trucks in trouble so far away from base , and relying solely on your own skills ,bloody hell how lucky was I , The Mountains further south as you well know where Fantastic the scenery was fantastic ,but you know how dangerous it was , then some how repair the trucks in trouble , in red hot temp there’s nowhere to hide ,traveling from Jeddah was always a challenge , traveling from Dammam to Abha was something else , the red hot sun was in the screen for days I must have been Mad , nothing but a pair of shorts and a blanket ,little faloose and food ,no contact with the Outside world I. lapped it up , I think the adventures I had keeps me going ? The trucking part was enjoyable but not to brake down was the quest , the ERF that I recovered 1/2 way to Ryhad !! The one with the flat tin road driving up the soft sand at full bore onto the Trailer that disapeared , Was better than the wall of death Welsie and the Philo ran of , that was bloody frightening , there was allways trouble from trailers on there knees to wheel blow outs , most trailers had wheels instead of feet just the job for soft ? sand the legs in Jedda disapeared down cellars ! Not that we where heavy ■■? Ron