Training

Just a bit of a query really , I was wondering if there are any companies out there who do a " how to" kind of course. As a new pass it would be really helpful to find somewhere that will teach you real world basics that aren’t covered in training… things like how to use a digi taco, how to use a curtain side, how to strap loads etc . Found a couple of good YouTube channels but am surprised no one offers this kind of thing as a day course?

Where are u based?

When I set up my CPC training company I would have liked to set up something like this, possibly seeing if I could have got it approved as a CPC module. The issue is that you would need access to a vehicle, all the equipment (straps, ratchets, chains, sheets, bars etc) to cover all eventualities. Then you would only be able to teach small numbers, possibly as low as a 4 or 5 to make sure everyone got sufficient time practicing to make sure they got learned what they needed to but also met the requirements to qualify for CPC.
Unfortunately it just wouldn’t be very cost effective, and most of these things do get covered, although not in a practical sense, on various other CPC modules, and the practical aspect could (and should) be shown when starting a new job, as long as they are aware that the person is a newbie with no previous knowledge or experience

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Asif:
Where are u based?

Manchester area.

Largeperm:
Just a bit of a query really , I was wondering if there are any companies out there who do a " how to" kind of course. As a new pass it would be really helpful to find somewhere that will teach you real world basics that aren’t covered in training… things like how to use a digi taco, how to use a curtain side, how to strap loads etc . Found a couple of good YouTube channels but am surprised no one offers this kind of thing as a day course?

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I learned to drive the truck but know bugger all about strapping loads, curtains, tail lifts, retarder brakes and tacho’s. On the 3/4 agency shifts I’ve had it’s been rigid’s thankfully, but every time I’m offered a shift I’ve got to ask what truck is etc.

I understand that not everything can be covered but a course of few hours covering the basics must be a good idea? Training schools all ready have the vehicles and experience to do it, charge people £80 for half day I bet 9/10 newbies would sign up … they’re missing a trick.

I had the same thoughts when i started 2 year ago and just had to learn on the job by talking to other drivers but once you have learnt the procedure for making a manual entry for example it can be transfered to any vehicle.

There’s no “trick” being missed here. When I owned PSTT, I tried on numerous occasions to set up this type of course. All attempts failed simply because the huge majority of folk simply want to know enough to pass the test. And any suggestion of increasing the cost is not generally welcomed. And this is very understandable.

Other difficulties include (as mentioned) the small numbers that could be effectively taught on this type of course. Also, as mentioned, tacho training is readily available as a cpc module and should be taken by every new driver. Add in the fact that the trainee could spend time learning how to strap a load securely and operate curtain sides. That’s great until they get work driving a tipper. Or a fridge. Or a skip wagon. Or a bin wagon. Or a car transporter. This list is endless. And that’s possibly the greatest issue. Similar conversations have taken place in regards to training on range change gearboxes. There are too many variants. The employer has a responsibility to ensure that the driver has had the correct training for the equipment in use. This training varies from NIL to a week or so depending on employer.

Yes, there is a gaping hole in what could/should be offered. But it’s a real problem to offer the correct training at a cost that would be acceptable.

Out of interest, over 30 years ago I developed a 2 day Euro driving course. Took forever to persuade the insurers it was a good idea. Produced all relevant training materials and wrote the course. Went to France and devised the routes (beginner, intermediate and advanced). Kept costs to a minimum. Advertised nationally. Take up - ZERO.

Pete S :laughing: :laughing:

I think a lot of the learning/training in this industry is done on the job. ?So you get paid for learning :smiley:

I’m currently only a few weekend shifts in, on my first ever job in the industry (supermarket work), and have already learned a whole load more than I did to pass my tests. As Pete says, the wide variety of different types of work would make this sort of training course difficult to offer at a suitable price.