Train drivers/is this true

i was told they get 60 days paid leave if there involved in a fatality whilst driving[someone jumps in front of train],if it happens a 2nd time there pensioned off ta

You wanting in on that action ady, fancy an early retirement ? :laughing:

The first part is true, they can be paid up to 60 days, and also recieve any councelling needed…

Bear in mind that driving trains is vastly different from driving cars/trucks etc, f someone trespasses on what is private railway property and get hit the driver has no responsibility over them, nor is he able to stop quickly, as he does have a responsibility for the safety of his passengers, ie if he really slams on and a person is walking up the train with a hot coffee, they could burn themselves if they fell, and try and then sue the railway operator…

And no the bright white light at the front of the train is for the train to be seen, not for the driver to see 2 miles up the track, otherwise train drivers would have 10 spots on the front and a maget on the gearbox…

Do firemen do part time train driveing

I wouldn’t think they’d pension then off after two fatalites. It costs a fortune to train them. I used to be a train driver back in BR days; we had one driver at my depot who had three fatalites. The attitude then (from both management and union) was to get them back out driving asap, doesn’t do you any good sitting at home dewelling about it.

Coddy:
The first part is true, they can be paid up to 60 days, and also recieve any councelling needed…

Bear in mind that driving trains is vastly different from driving cars/trucks etc, f someone trespasses on what is private railway property and get hit the driver has no responsibility over them, nor is he able to stop quickly, as he does have a responsibility for the safety of his passengers, ie if he really slams on and a person is walking up the train with a hot coffee, they could burn themselves if they fell, and try and then sue the railway operator…

Thats not true - if a train had to slam on its brakes for whatever reason - the company is not liable. Otherwise companies like London Underground would be sued all the time with people making claims for falling over. Any way an emergency brake application isn’t as severe as they show you in the movies - the thing just eventually stops. Exceptions to this are tube trains and trams which have have very good brakes due to being lighter.

ady1:
i was told they get 60 days paid leave if there involved in a fatality whilst driving[someone jumps in front of train],if it happens a 2nd time there pensioned off ta

If a train driver has a fatality they are brought back in to the work environment as soon as possible (in most cases the next day depending on the individual drivers attitude to the fatality). The average time off work is two weeks. Drivers are offered counselling if needed (very rarely taken up) and are then put back to work as and when the feel fit to do so. In most cases this is within a fortnight. A driver must have a “driver manager” ride with them on their first trip back on duty, as well as the first time they travel over the location where they had the fatality. As for being pensioned off after a 2nd fatality - nah, not true. Most drivers go a whole career without a fatality. Some are unlucky enough to have one and a very small percentage have more than one (one guy was on his back to work drive following a fatality and someone jumped in front of him!!). Some guys I work with have had three or four fatalities, it s just seen as one of those things by drivers. The big exceptions are when children are involved (thankfully very very very rare) - 99% of fatalities are suicides and they happen on such a regular basis, drivers become hardened to them. As one guy said to me “I was where I should have been - he wasn’t, end of story”.

daveb0789:

Coddy:
The first part is true, they can be paid up to 60 days, and also recieve any councelling needed…

Bear in mind that driving trains is vastly different from driving cars/trucks etc, f someone trespasses on what is private railway property and get hit the driver has no responsibility over them, nor is he able to stop quickly, as he does have a responsibility for the safety of his passengers, ie if he really slams on and a person is walking up the train with a hot coffee, they could burn themselves if they fell, and try and then sue the railway operator…

Thats not true - if a train had to slam on its brakes for whatever reason - the company is not liable. Otherwise companies like London Underground would be sued all the time with people making claims for falling over. Any way an emergency brake application isn’t as severe as they show you in the movies - the thing just eventually stops. Exceptions to this are tube trains and trams which have have very good brakes due to being lighter.

So I take it you have been ob a train thats had an emergency application, or better still done one yourself… No?

Thought not.

Believe me, punters do TRY and sue (Read the post)

God I just love the know it alls lol…

To be honest I’m an ex- train conductor guard so yes I have experienced a few. We’ve paid compensation for someone tripping on a slippery ungritted platform in icy weather but never for a train applying it’s emergency brakes.

How about yourself?

Again read the post, I said punters do try and sue, they dont get anywhere because of the reasons for the application, but it takes a lot of time and resourses to resolve those issues.

Oh yes im trained (Geddit) to drive all manner of motive power, also well versed in maintenance of the trains…

Coddy:
Again read the post, I said punters do try and sue, they dont get anywhere because of the reasons for the application, but it takes a lot of time and resourses to resolve those issues.

Oh yes im trained (Geddit) to drive all manner of motive power, also well versed in maintenance of the trains…

From your postings I see you drive on a Heritage railway. The maximum speed in service is a mind blowing 25 mph. You aren’t a qualified train driver on Network rail lines.

Coddy:
So I take it you have been ob a train thats had an emergency application, or better still done one yourself… No?

I have when I worked for the railway - I was going for a trip to Weymouth when a tractor crossed in front of the train narrowly missing hitting it :open_mouth:

daveb0789:

Coddy:
Again read the post, I said punters do try and sue, they dont get anywhere because of the reasons for the application, but it takes a lot of time and resourses to resolve those issues.

Oh yes im trained (Geddit) to drive all manner of motive power, also well versed in maintenance of the trains…

From your postings I see you drive on a Heritage railway. The maximum speed in service is a mind blowing 25 mph. You aren’t a qualified train driver on Network rail lines.

Actually I now work for a national railway, the Heritage is a hobby, and yes that is restricted on that line to 25mph, but the mainline, woohoo… So there.

Coddy:

daveb0789:

Coddy:
Again read the post, I said punters do try and sue, they dont get anywhere because of the reasons for the application, but it takes a lot of time and resourses to resolve those issues.

Oh yes im trained (Geddit) to drive all manner of motive power, also well versed in maintenance of the trains…

From your postings I see you drive on a Heritage railway. The maximum speed in service is a mind blowing 25 mph. You aren’t a qualified train driver on Network rail lines.

Actually I now work for a national railway, the Heritage is a hobby, and yes that is restricted on that line to 25mph, but the mainline, woohoo… So there.

I thought you are truck driver. So you are a main line train driver ?

Gave up trucks some time back, waste of time, what im doing now is far better.

Coddy:
Gave up trucks some time back, waste of time, what im doing now is far better.

:open_mouth: you can’t say that on the forum! :open_mouth:

So anyway what do you do on the railway ?

merc0447:
You wanting in on that action ady, fancy an early retirement ? :laughing:

no,one of our drivers had bloke jump off bridge, bloke died, driver was given 2 days off paid, they were seeing if they could give him a few more off, he came back after 5 days i think,was told rail drivers got 60 off,just wondered if it was true,if yes it makes you wonder how a truck driver only get 2/5 off,seems alot of difference to me, or are we more battle hardened[or picieved]to be than train drivers.
n.bthe coppers involved in sorting out aftermarth of accodent are still on sick,but drivers back to work :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation:

There is a trucknet member, Brookie, who apparently is now a train driver, im sure he could enlighten you!!

I thought 60 days was their annual holiday entitlment!! :grimacing: :grimacing:

fuse:
Do firemen do part time train driveing

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Probably Mr Fuse, but only for Steady Eddie, he loves em!! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :laughing: :wink:

daveb0789:

Coddy:
Gave up trucks some time back, waste of time, what im doing now is far better.

:open_mouth: you can’t say that on the forum! :open_mouth:

So anyway what do you do on the railway ?

He works in the buffet carriage washing up the dirty dishes.