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Disgusting barbaric Muslims at it again, thankfully banned in Denmark and I believe Poland, no way should the civilized world accommodate halal slaughter, it belongs in the dark ages has does that particular religion and all that goes with it. Racist? Go on then…
Having watched the full process at Halal sites and normal abattoirs over the years the Halal killing I’ve seen isn’t any worse tbf. They cut the throat and the animal drops and that’s it.
What’s barbaric is watching a cow take two bolts to the head and still be standing. Thankfully that’s quite rare.
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Disgusting barbaric Muslims at it again, thankfully banned in Denmark and I believe Poland, no way should the civilized world accommodate halal slaughter, it belongs in the dark ages has does that particular religion and all that goes with it. Racist? Go on then…
It’s not only Muslim that slit the throats, Jewish faith do to, mustn’t forget the Sikhs.
short walk:
Disgusting barbaric Muslims at it again, thankfully banned in Denmark and I believe Poland, no way should the civilized world accommodate halal slaughter, it belongs in the dark ages has does that particular religion and all that goes with it. Racist? Go on then…
It’s not only Muslim that slit the throats, Jewish faith do to, mustn’t forget the Sikhs.
Every animal slaughtered in the UK is killed by having its throat slit.
short walk:
Disgusting barbaric Muslims at it again, thankfully banned in Denmark and I believe Poland, no way should the civilized world accommodate halal slaughter, it belongs in the dark ages has does that particular religion and all that goes with it. Racist? Go on then…
It’s not only Muslim that slit the throats, Jewish faith do to, mustn’t forget the Sikhs.
Every animal slaughtered in the UK is killed by having its throat slit.
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Every animal slaughtered in the UK is killed by having its throat slit.
After its dead or stunned.
Animals don’t have their throats slit after they are dead, throat-slitting is the means by which they are slaughtered. In the UK animals generally are stunned with an electric shock to the head prior to slaughter, but it probably unlikely that this lessens their trauma by any considerable amount.
I’ve watched chickens getting slaughtered many times at a kosher place and there is no struggle or fuss.
One at a time out of the crate, held by the legs upside down, they go into a trance and are perfectly still and calm. Knife across the throat and onto a hook to bleed out. Even the ones waiting in the crates are calm and don’t seem to give a ■■■■.
And any that escape from the crates get spared the knife and get to live around the farmyard, with the nuns kittens
dieseldog999:
every time ive watched " no country for old men" its the ones that didnt get the stungun to the forehead that seemed to suffer from trauma…
Wonder if you can get an attachment for your air lines with one of those, would come in useful out there
idrive:
I’ve watched chickens getting slaughtered many times at a kosher place and there is no struggle or fuss.
One at a time out of the crate, held by the legs upside down, they go into a trance and are perfectly still and calm. Knife across the throat and onto a hook to bleed out. Even the ones waiting in the crates are calm and don’t seem to give a [zb]. And any that escape from the crates get spared the knife and get to live around the farmyard, with the nuns kittens
Oh bloody hell. Are you saying that any time we speed/get an infringement, we’re now putting nuns, kittens AND chickens at risk?!?!
idrive:
I’ve watched chickens getting slaughtered many times at a kosher place and there is no struggle or fuss.
One at a time out of the crate, held by the legs upside down, they go into a trance and are perfectly still and calm. Knife across the throat and onto a hook to bleed out. Even the ones waiting in the crates are calm and don’t seem to give a [zb]. And any that escape from the crates get spared the knife and get to live around the farmyard, with the nuns kittens
Oh bloody hell. Are you saying that any time we speed/get an infringement, we’re now putting nuns, kittens AND chickens at risk?!?!
Theres prob a perverse paradox at work there in that ritually dispatched birds suffer less trauma than the mass slaughter machinery of kfc and mcd,s who are I’m reliably informed are pursuing a newer high speed slaughter process in the near future.
idrive:
I’ve watched chickens getting slaughtered many times at a kosher place and there is no struggle or fuss.
One at a time out of the crate, held by the legs upside down, they go into a trance and are perfectly still and calm. Knife across the throat and onto a hook to bleed out. Even the ones waiting in the crates are calm and don’t seem to give a [zb]. And any that escape from the crates get spared the knife and get to live around the farmyard, with the nuns kittens
Oh bloody hell. Are you saying that any time we speed/get an infringement, we’re now putting nuns, kittens AND chickens at risk?!?!
Seems a shame they can’t utilise a less brutal method such as carbon monoxide as I understand is used in certain abbatoirs.Mate of mine used to transport a certain gas product for such purposes,pigs I think it was,somewhere in Wales.
I think we can safely assume the " calm " is more a case of deep trauma for the critters.
Could be wrong, but isn’t Carbon Dioxide used, rather than Monoxide?
It is a process to starve them of oxygen. They are effectively being suffocated, not poisoned.
Would meat from an animal poisoned, be fit for consumption?
Open to correction on all of that.
Edit. It`s not suffocation, but asphyxiation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas … _slaughter
Edit. Typo
Franglais:
Could be wrong, but isn’t Carbon Dioxide used, rather than Monoxide?
It is a process to starve them of oxygen. They are effectively being suffocated, not poisoned.
Would meat from an animal poisoned, be fit for consumption?
Open to correction on all of that.
Edit. It`s not suffocation, but asphyxiation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas … _slaughter
Edit. Typo
Don’t think there’s much difference bleedin inhumane and a pointless expense regardless.On that note try breathing in a plastic bag even close to the point of CO2 saturation it’s not much different than being strangled.Probably why they found the Kursk flooded with the surviving crew probably having chosen drowning rather than suffer CO2 saturation.
While surely it would be better to just use a large sealed stable type area with roomy pens with straw etc where the animals would have no idea that it’s a death factory and just reduce the air pressure to levels that creates firstly euphoria/carelessness then unconciousness just as oxygen deprivation does in the case of humans.
Franglais:
Could be wrong, but isn’t Carbon Dioxide used, rather than Monoxide?
It is a process to starve them of oxygen. They are effectively being suffocated, not poisoned.
Would meat from an animal poisoned, be fit for consumption?
Open to correction on all of that.
Edit. It`s not suffocation, but asphyxiation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas … _slaughter
Edit. Typo
Don’t think there’s much difference bleedin inhumane and a pointless expense regardless.On that note try breathing in a plastic bag even close to the point of CO2 saturation it’s not much different than being strangled.Probably why they found the Kursk flooded with the surviving crew probably having chosen drowning rather than suffer CO2 saturation.
While surely it would be better to just use a large sealed stable type area with roomy pens with straw etc where the animals would have no idea that it’s a death factory and just reduce the air pressure to levels that creates firstly euphoria/carelessness then unconciousness just as oxygen deprivation does in the case of humans.
I guess the meat quality would be improved as well without the adrenal secretions activated by the animals at death point.Now if only they would consider not pumping them full of growth hormones into the bargain those nice people at kfc et al.
Franglais:
Could be wrong, but isn’t Carbon Dioxide used, rather than Monoxide?
It is a process to starve them of oxygen. They are effectively being suffocated, not poisoned.
Would meat from an animal poisoned, be fit for consumption?
Open to correction on all of that.
Edit. It`s not suffocation, but asphyxiation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas … _slaughter
Edit. Typo
Don’t think there’s much difference bleedin inhumane and a pointless expense regardless.On that note try breathing in a plastic bag even close to the point of CO2 saturation it’s not much different than being strangled.Probably why they found the Kursk flooded with the surviving crew probably having chosen drowning rather than suffer CO2 saturation.
While surely it would be better to just use a large sealed stable type area with roomy pens with straw etc where the animals would have no idea that it’s a death factory and just reduce the air pressure to levels that creates firstly euphoria/carelessness then unconciousness just as oxygen deprivation does in the case of humans.
Knowing that has to raise questions as to the motivation of those imposing any type of end which involves more needless suffering or potential awareness of the process in whatever form.Either on animals or humans such as struggling for breath through excessive CO2 saturation or under going a bolt gun to the head or hanging and/or being bled out or lethal toxic injection or gas etc etc.
manalishi:
I guess the meat quality would be improved as well without the adrenal secretions activated by the animals at death point.Now if only they would consider not pumping them full of growth hormones into the bargain those nice people at kfc et al.
I think growth hormones in meat for human consumption is banned in the EU but allowed in US, Canada, and some other places. The EU ban applies to meat imports too of course.
