Tipper/Grab Drivers - when do you have to sheet your load?

Just wondered whom makes the call as to when your load is safe to move without a sheet on?

Not sure but the buck stops with the driver If your moving dry sand or dusty stuff then cover it if your moving large lumps off concrete etc i can’t see the sheet stopping g it if it wants to go so you may think there’s no point but if you have an easy sheet for the few seconds it takes to sheet it I’d do it on every load its one less excuse to give the old bill or vosa a reason to look at you :slight_smile:

grab crane would need to be put up in air. like when tipping. dont do that on the job…
sheet would be torn/ripped by bucket. dont do that…
load responsibly and its all good. do this.

Jenson Button:
Just wondered whom makes the call as to when your load is safe to move without a sheet on?

Isnt that question a bit like at what point do you put a condom on ,answer when you load could blow.

Dan Punchard:

Jenson Button:
Just wondered whom makes the call as to when your load is safe to move without a sheet on?

Isnt that question a bit like at what point do you put a condom on ,answer when you load could blow.

HA HA I know someone whom should have thought a bit more about that…my first should of been a space man ! lol

anyways not driving tippers for many a year, you hear so many stories about the load has to be dry has to be smaller than 2 inches etc… I just wondered what are the written rules and what do you do if your driving a grab and your ask to shift dry muck or a load of sand what do you do then ?

Grab-tippers’ sheets go 3/4 of the way down the body, leaving a gap for the clam to sit on the load. It’s very rare to see one sheeted unless they’re loading aggregate from somewhere where it’s mandatory. Many grab wagons on utility work split-load, ie they’ll have shingle or stone loaded on the back so they can drop some off at a job and pick muck up aswell, loading it up the front. As the shingle runs out, they end up with a load of muck to dump somewhere. I can’t say I’ve ever see one sheet up onsite, probably due to the risk of hitting overhead wires when as Diggertony said, raising the bucket right up in the air in order to flip the sheet out.
Jensen, those on sewer works don’t have the worry of dry material blowing off, more likely it’d be “is it leaking out of the tailgate?” Or “will the stuff come out when it’s tipped?”
:laughing:

Muckaway:
Jensen, those on sewer works don’t have the worry of dry material blowing off, more likely it’d be “is it leaking out of the tailgate?” Or “will the stuff come out when it’s tipped?”
:laughing:

That has just made my night - not… and there was me thinking that brown water must be wet sand…- jeeze I honestly do not know how the sewer lads work in that ! chaning the little uns nappy a few times was beyond me - you deffo need ppe for that job… digging crap out - no thanks !

Jenson Button:
Just wondered whom makes the call as to when your load is safe to move without a sheet on?

Driver makes the call.
Just because it’s a Grab Lorry, it won’t make it a Magic ‘load won’t blow off’ Lorry.
Common sense is you Friend, though you do see an awful lot of vehicles being driven around unsheeted. :imp:
See my eartlier topic. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=96702

Grab lorry’s pick up all sorts of Crap with litter & light rubbish in the some of the loads, so I would sheet these every time. Sand & small aggregates can get blown off & if you had a Motorcycle behind you, it could go straight into his/her eyes, it doesn’t take too much imagination to know what would happen !
If you hit a pothole, Bricks & bigger stuff can become dislodged & roll off higher loads straight into the path of any following vehicle.
The biggest problem I can see in this industry is- Some people don’t seem to have a minute to spare, everything HAS TO BE DONE FAST, so they can get home 2 hours before their shift even ends (Job & Knock is a pain in the a r s e) & every now & again it’s in the news that this or that vehicle was involved in a fatal due to loads shifting or flying off the back of a Tipper.
These people need to consider other road users & what might happen is something did fall off the back of their wagon !

Jenson Button:

Muckaway:
Jensen, those on sewer works don’t have the worry of dry material blowing off, more likely it’d be “is it leaking out of the tailgate?” Or “will the stuff come out when it’s tipped?”
:laughing:

That has just made my night - not… and there was me thinking that brown water must be wet sand…- jeeze I honestly do not know how the sewer lads work in that ! chaning the little uns nappy a few times was beyond me - you deffo need ppe for that job… digging crap out - no thanks !

I did muck shifting last year on a major sewer upgrade in Oxford. The most overpowering smell from old cracked sewers is actually a mixture of detergents, bleach and cooking oil. Most of Oxford is built on gravel so the nasties must leech a long way away.
And yes, the muck was classified as inert too…

Only had a bulker on a couple of times but always been told it must sheeted without fail to keep the load dry.