Yep I agree, religion in it’s own form is bad enough, adding politics to the mix can be, and is lethal.
When you think that primitive religion is sold by those who perpetrate it,.and try and prolong it in a modern age. …on peace and love,.(aye right.
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Adding politics makes it a bit if a paradox does it not
You missed the bottom half of my quote out,.which kinda makes my point as a reply to you.
More complicated than what? You instantly assume that I know nothing of the history of Muslims in France - precisely the kind of response that RR bridles at!!
Yes, most of us get along as best we can.
But those who are very strongly for their own religion, tend to be less tolerant of other religions.
Equally so with those who are strongly for their own political stance or very strongly for their own culture.
You say your mate rejected his religious upbringing, and I understand so did you.
So why should anyone be expected to keep to a particular culture? As you say, whatever that is!
Why is culture paramount anymore than religion or politics? I really do not understand that.
No i state that it is more complicated than what you have written.
I think we need to beware of straying into our own dogma here: to ‘hate’ religion is to reject it entirely. I am not (any longer) religious at all, but I’m happy to exist side-by-side with people who are, so long as they don’t hog the agenda by making up all the rules (and then pretending that God made them). Tolerance of other points of political / religious view is paramount here. Refusal to co-operate with lunacy should come with that territory.
Political schools are not allowed here; nor should religious schools be. I would like to see all Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu etc etc schools outlawed.
Yes that is fine.
And if society as a whole does not agree with me, then so what.
As I reject those who strive to retain a religion I reject campaigns that strive to retain one small idea of what “culture” is or should be.
Culture is not God given. It is not immutable.
It should evolve, and is doing so.
Culture to some seems to be “religion without the sky pixies”.
Totally agree.
And I am not happy with the common idea that someone is “born into a religion”.
No one is born as a believer or adherent into any faith.
It is taught/indoctrinated.
What is your culture? Can you define it? Is it confined to your town, country, ethenticity, colour, beliefs?
At this point I’m maintaining an agnostic view.
Social behaviour, values, customs, behaviour in general, manners, respect,.even our history.
Basically stuff handed down by previous generations,
Granted some of those values, manners and empathy for example, seem to be dwindling, but we must hang on to the core of our culture it is what defines us.
As I said the loons on the left seem to hate our traditional values and ways of life, they are even sanitizing our history…which is wrong
Some cultures find the behaviour of other cultutes totally unacceptable, which brings me back to certain cultures trying their best to change ours into an imitation, even a parody of their own.
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Interesting explanation of culture. It is difficult to define, but that looks a fair attempt at it.
I would argue that not all “traditional values” should be retained.
100 years ago employees would traditionally almost have been in thrall to employers.
Most would have been very “respectful” of their “social betters”. That has changed for the better. Our culture has evolved.
Are fewer people well behaved today? Maybe. But is that because of different cultures, or of our own culture evolving by itself?
Is it that kids are freer and more cheeky today? Or is that me getting old? Kids in copper’s uniforms!
Do we hark back to a golden age that never existed?
The UK murder rate is now lower than 30years ago, although the media doesn’t often tell us that.
I remember reading an old edition of my local paper describing gangs from St Maty’s fighting gangs from Woolston. And in my youth Mods’n’Rockers were at it. It goes on all the time, but everyone sees it anew.
Different cultures might be the latest scapegoat, but if it wasn’t it would be, Bigendians vs Littleendians. (Swift)
Is that really happening much?
There are some odds’n’sods of extremists in all camps, but a serious attempt to change culture? I haven’t seen it.
I do disagree with.
I am not defined by my country of birth. My background and place of birth are of course an influence, but I am a thinking person, I make my own choices and stand by them.
I define myself.
Another opinion
Drinking tea like it’s going out of fashion
Very good at queuing in a line
Drinking for years in the past pi55 as beer, light and mild or bitter comes to mind and all push button
Having a push button on a tap thats pouring guinness, in the past
The English breakfast
Roast beef
Beans
Football
The 60’s music
On a serious note
[The Beatles](Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The_Beatles) exemplified changing cultural dynamics, not only in music, but fashion and lifestyle. Over a half century after their emergence, they continue to have a worldwide cultural impact.
You’re talking my language now mate.
The Beatles still influence new bands today, their experimentation in other genres in the studio done before nobody else before them in ‘pop’ knew no bounds.
I have just bumped up my Beatles thread about the new John Lennon programmes on Sky btw if you are interested.
They sang with quasi-American accents! How British is that? 
That didn’t last two minutes: many of us on here were being served Guiness before buttons!
There we are: our own kulture has been subverted. What is wrong with our own Wurzels?
Better than that 'Merikan stuff that has been stolen from African slaves.
About 1973, everything i remember was on push button draft, can’t remember how long before that it was there or how long it lasted,
I have a special memory About that year
Nah…Strawberrry Fields?
Eleanor Rigby?..to name 2
Not all in American accents, then.
But that all started with 50s rock and roll ,.the Yanks started it off, the Brits copied in order to sell to the US market.
Most Brit bands did,.and a lot still do.
I reckon the early stuff like …She loves you yeah yeah yeah,.would not have the same effect (or sales) as ‘Yes Yes Yes’ 
In fact McCartney said when him and Lennon were writing it in his front room,.that his Dad said it SHOULD be ‘yes yes yes’ 
