tachograph:
delboytwo:
how may 24 hour days can you drive between weekly rests tachograph, come on
[zb]
tachograph:
delboytwo:
Q4
How many hours cans a driver drive under EU regulations between weekly restsdelboytwo:
come on guys Q4 is the easy oneI get it to a theoretical maximum driving time of 70 hours 45 minutes between weekly rest periods.
Now tell me where I’ve gone wrong
I suspect you’re going to disagree with this so here’s how I’ve worked it out
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just think if coffeeholic see this
delboytwo:
tachograph:
delboytwo:
how may 24 hour days can you drive between weekly rests tachograph, come on[zb]
Actually you had me there for a minute Del, but you can work as many shifts as you can fit into a period of 144 hours (six periods of 24 hours), so I stick to my original answer 
tachograph:
delboytwo:
tachograph:
delboytwo:
how may 24 hour days can you drive between weekly rests tachograph, come on[zb]
Actually you had me there for a minute Del, but you can work as many shifts as you can fit into a period of 144 hours (six periods of 24 hours), so I stick to my original answer
Article 6
- The daily driving time shall not exceed nine hours.
However, the daily driving time may be extended to at most
10 hours not more than twice during the week.- The weekly driving time shall not exceed 56 hours and
shall not result in the maximum weekly working time laid
down in Directive 2002/15/EC being exceeded.
so if you finshed your shift on monday at 1 am and drove from midnight till 1am and started back to work at 10 am you would sill only be able to drive for 9 hours if you had a ten or only 8 hours if only had a 9.
Daily driving time is the total accumulated driving time between two daily rest periods of a daily rest period and a weekly rest period
Article 4 - 561/2006
‘daily driving time’ means the total accumulated driving
time between the end of one daily rest period and the
beginning of the following daily rest period or between a
daily rest period and a weekly rest period;
delboytwo:
so if you finshed your shift on monday at 1 am and drove from midnight till 1am and started back to work at 10 am you would sill only be able to drive for 9 hours if you had a ten or only 8 hours if only had a 9.
That’s nonsense Del, a new period of 24 hours begins when you’ve completed a daily rest period.
Daily means from the end of one rest period to the start of the next and does not mean 24 hours
In your question you should have said the driver starts and finishes at the same time each day which would have then made your answer 58
tachograph:
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How many reduced daily rests are in that example (between weekly rest periods) ?
ROG:
tachograph:
0How many reduced daily rests are in that example (between weekly rest periods) ?
Yes you’re right, I’ve allowed more reduced daily rest periods than I should have done.
tachograph:
ROG:
tachograph:
0How many reduced daily rests are in that example (between weekly rest periods) ?
Yes you’re right, I’ve allowed more reduced daily rest periods than I should have done.
I often do that - mix up the rules on fixed weeks and between weekly rest periods
How does that affect your calculations?
It brings the total driving time down quite a bit to 65 hours 30 minutes.
I think that’s right this time, you could change the driving and rest periods round to get two 10 hour drives in the second week, but I don’t see that it would affect the total.
Could you use your original plan under MM rules where only one driver does the driving?
That way all the rest periods could be 9 hours
tachograph:
It brings the total driving time down quite a bit to 65 hours 30 minutes.I think that’s right this time, you could change the driving and rest periods round to get two 10 hour drives in the second week, but I don’t see that it would affect the total.
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i am sorry but you can’t do 65 hours 30 minutes you would have to stop driving at 58 hours if the you took advantage of the Monday/Tuesday
between weekly rests is the same the max you could do is 58 and that only if the 4 of the tens can be do in i two fix weeks
in you list the last shift would only be 1 hours drive left not 8.5 and thats only if the two tens were in the new week
if you start after a weekly rest on a friday and do as many shift in 6x24 or as you say 144 hours your drive time can only be a max of 58 hours and thats if the day of the first fixed week before you weekly rest were 9 hours drives and the and you do 2 ten hour drives on on the next fixed week before you go on your next weekly rest
ROG:
Could you use your original plan under MM rules where only one driver does the driving?That way all the rest periods could be 9 hours
multiman rules do not take away the driving limits for each driver there can only do 56 hours each max in a fixed week or 58 between weekly rest when the working week straddles two fixed weeks
delboytwo:
i am sorry but you can’t do 65 hours 30 minutes you would have to stop driving at 58 hours if the you took advantage of the Monday/Tuesdaybetween weekly rests is the same the max you could do is 58 and that only if the 4 of the tens can be do in i two fix weeks
in you list the last shift would only be 1 hours drive left not 8.5 and thats only if the two tens were in the new week
Where are you getting the 58 hours from ?
I might agree with you if you can explain where you’re getting this 58 hours from 
The regulations say you can only drive 56 hours in “a week”, a week is “the period of time between 00.00 on Monday and 24.00 on Sunday”, so that doesn’t explain your answer of 58 hours.
The question you asked was about the driving time between weekly rest periods not the driving time in “a week”.
If you still maintain that you can only drive for 58 hours between weekly rest periods explain why ?
delboytwo:
if you start after a weekly rest on a friday and do as many shift in 6x24 or as you say 144 hours your drive time can only be a max of 58 hours and thats if the day of the first fixed week before you weekly rest were 9 hours drives and the and you do 2 ten hour drives on on the next fixed week before you go on your next weekly rest
If I’ve got it wrong I’ll happily put my hands up to it, the problem is that you say I’ve got it wrong but offer no explanation of why or where.
Explain where it’s wrong in the image I’ve posted.
You can’t just say it’s 58 hours and offer no explanation
delboytwo:
if you start after a weekly rest on a friday and do as many shift in 6x24 or as you say 144 hours your drive time can only be a max of 58 hours and thats if the day of the first fixed week before you weekly rest were 9 hours drives and the and you do 2 ten hour drives on on the next fixed week before you go on your next weekly rest
Is this what Del is thinking - that a set period of 24 hours can only have X amount of driving time in it … that is true for domestic regs but not for the EU regs … me thinks he has both mixed up
45 hours off
i come to work and my week starts Friday at 1 am my next rest must start no late than 1 am Thursday
Friday 01:00 10 hours drive other work 1 hour rest 9 hours
Friday 21:00 10 hours drive other work 1 hour rest 9 hours
Saturday 17:00 9 hours drive other work 1 hour rest 9 hours
Sunday 12:00 9 hours drive other work 1 hour rest 11 hours
monday 09:00 10 hours drive other work 1 hour rest 11 hours
tuesday 07:00 10 hours drive other work 1 hour rest 11 hours
wedesday 05:00 no driving alowed but can work but as a driver what woud be the point. in working as no driving can be done till he completes a weekly rest
hope it clears it up my last post