The history of the 8 wheeler

The 8 wheelers in the 1980s video seemed to be sporting “normal” wheel/tyre equipment, while current NZ 8’s seem to be on small wheels and/or low profile tyres. Has NZ fallen victim to vehicle height legislation, in the intervening period?

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anorak:
The 8 wheelers in the 1980s video seemed to be sporting “normal” wheel/tyre equipment, while current NZ 8’s seem to be on small wheels and/or low profile tyres. Has NZ fallen victim to vehicle height legislation, in the intervening period?

nzta.govt.nz/vehicles/vehicl … -vehicles/

Carryfast:

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anorak:
The 8 wheelers in the 1980s video seemed to be sporting “normal” wheel/tyre equipment, while current NZ 8’s seem to be on small wheels and/or low profile tyres. Has NZ fallen victim to vehicle height legislation, in the intervening period?

nzta.govt.nz/vehicles/vehicl … -vehicles/

4.3m maximum height. I’m going to guess that this limit was introduced some time after 1990. Any NZ hauliers/engineers care to confirm that?

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Lawrence Dunbar:
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Hi Larry, would that load be from Wright Anderson Gateshead? They had a lot of stuff moved on trestles back then. Regards Kev.

kevmac47:

Lawrence Dunbar:
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Hi Larry, would that load be from Wright Anderson Gateshead? They had a lot of stuff moved on trestles back then. Regards Kev.

Hi Kev, Most likley, Smilers did a lot of Wright Andersons work, When I was there in the 60s I had a few loads very similar to these from Gateshead down to Gatwick Airport, Their own lads were working on sight, It was a good pay job to say the least extra dosh for the 40ft beams on tressles, The only problem was where to park at night, But it was a quick tip when you got on site, Getting passed the security geezers took a while because they didnt speak Geordie :frowning: :frowning: :frowning: , But there was allways a bit gear to go back to Gateshead, So It was a bonus when not having to ring around for a back load, The good old days, Park up on the Hill a few beers in The Crooked Billet, Cab it in the summer, Or kip at Tonys in Mansell Street in the winter, They were the days when drivers were drivers, No Wendy house sleeper cabs Eh, Take care my friend & stay safe, Regards Larry

These MK 5 AEC,s replaced the old ERF,s Smiles had a lot of work from Henery Forsters Fire Brick Co At Backworth in those days running to South Wales, Llanwern, Neath, Britton Ferry. steel works, Plus plenty of return traffic in the early 60s, When that was a bonus to Smiles and their drivers , The good old days, Regards Larry.



Lawrence Dunbar:

kevmac47:

Lawrence Dunbar:
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Hi Larry, would that load be from Wright Anderson Gateshead? They had a lot of stuff moved on trestles back then. Regards Kev.

Hi Kev, Most likley, Smilers did a lot of Wright Andersons work, When I was there in the 60s I had a few loads very similar to these from Gateshead down to Gatwick Airport, Their own lads were working on sight, It was a good pay job to say the least extra dosh for the 40ft beams on tressles, The only problem was where to park at night, But it was a quick tip when you got on site, Getting passed the security geezers took a while because they didnt speak Geordie :frowning: :frowning: :frowning: , But there was allways a bit gear to go back to Gateshead, So It was a bonus when not having to ring around for a back load, The good old days, Park up on the Hill a few beers in The Crooked Billet, Cab it in the summer, Or kip at Tonys in Mansell Street in the winter, They were the days when drivers were drivers, No Wendy house sleeper cabs Eh, Take care my friend & stay safe, Regards Larry

Very interesting pic’s there Larry, cheers. It makes me wonder though if there were any regulations/limitations on what could be loaded on a 8 wheeler regarding the width or in this case length?

Cheers, Patrick

A more “modern” continental version of the classic 8 wheeler design.

pv83:

Lawrence Dunbar:

kevmac47:

Lawrence Dunbar:
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Hi Larry, would that load be from Wright Anderson Gateshead? They had a lot of stuff moved on trestles back then. Regards Kev.

Hi Kev, Most likley, Smilers did a lot of Wright Andersons work, When I was there in the 60s I had a few loads very similar to these from Gateshead down to Gatwick Airport, Their own lads were working on sight, It was a good pay job to say the least extra dosh for the 40ft beams on tressles, The only problem was where to park at night, But it was a quick tip when you got on site, Getting passed the security geezers took a while because they didnt speak Geordie :frowning: :frowning: :frowning: , But there was allways a bit gear to go back to Gateshead, So It was a bonus when not having to ring around for a back load, The good old days, Park up on the Hill a few beers in The Crooked Billet, Cab it in the summer, Or kip at Tonys in Mansell Street in the winter, They were the days when drivers were drivers, No Wendy house sleeper cabs Eh, Take care my friend & stay safe, Regards Larry

I worked for a steel stockholder at that time, if I remember correctly our regs were, 6ft max in front of the cab, no warning triangle requirements. Over the rear, flag only at 3ft, warning triangle up to 6ft, and lights required after dark. Over 6ft up to 10ft warning triangles, rear and sides (plus lights). Over 10 ft , movement order needed. I think wide loads were similar to present day regs. I think I’m approximately correct, but it was a very long time ago. Regards Kev
Very interesting pic’s there Larry, cheers. It makes me wonder though if there were any regulations/limitations on what could be loaded on a 8 wheeler regarding the width or in this case length?

Cheers, Patrick

Oops sorry! I’ve put my reply in the middle of Larry’s and Pv’s posts.
I don’t know how to change it without deleting it!! Regards “Donkey” Kev.
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Here’s my accumulation of 8 wheelers.

One from long ago, all credit to Snapshooter46 for the photo.
Oily

8wheeler Sentinel S8 steam lorry 'Shrewsbury Flyer' (1934) cc by nc sa 2.0 7764372000_2c1af62c88_o.jpg

This one thanks to Eddie(eastleighbusman), 4 axles an 8 wheeler, not in the real old sense.
Oily

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oiltreader:
One from long ago, all credit to Snapshooter46 for the photo.
Oily

Richard Hazell has the ‘full set’ of those Sentinel steamers, four, six and eight wheelers. He has a surfacing business near Whitchurch, Berks.

Pete.

Two well known Kent 8 wheelers, taken from the Kent Transport thread, which survived in everyday use until the mid 1970s. AEC MK III AF 57 and Foden FG AF 66. Their fleet contemporaries were MK V Flats AF 80 which was shortened into a tractor unit, AF 105 which is in preservation, 2 PKR and Bulker 641 NKJ. A second of Karl’s excellent pictures also taken at Wares Farm, shows AF 57 with an almost full load of hops

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A Couple working in Greece 2018