chippy:
‘…Think I will use the sat nav and forget the drawings until I can see the store…’
…or follow the legions of Stepford People as they report-in with their Clubcard for recreational worship at the brain-sapping altar of Big ‘T’.
Happy Keith:
chippy:
‘…Think I will use the sat nav and forget the drawings until I can see the store…’…or follow the legions of Stepford People as they report-in with their Clubcard for recreational worship at the brain-sapping altar of Big ‘T’.
Can’t stand shoping in Tesco…Thet only have their express thingy’s here— at the moment 
how the hell did we manage before satnav?? common sense, a map and learning from mistakes!! they should turn off the signal from the satellites for a week to teach em a thing or two!!
truckermarcus:
how the hell did we manage before satnav?? common sense, a map and learning from mistakes!! they should turn off the signal from the satellites for a week to teach em a thing or two!!
I’d imagine this kinda thing trucks getting stuck down narrow streets happend just as much before just we didnt have 24 hour news, news web site etc… so less news to fill up so this kinda thing would maybe get a few lines in a local newspaper.
Maps are ok but then again, some B-route towards some destination maybe be a decent road with no problems for HGV’s but then again it might be one lane and unpassable. All look the same on a map.
Kenny1975:
truckermarcus:
how the hell did we manage before satnav?? common sense, a map and learning from mistakes!! they should turn off the signal from the satellites for a week to teach em a thing or two!!I’d imagine this kinda thing trucks getting stuck down narrow streets happend just as much before just we didnt have 24 hour news, news web site etc… so less news to fill up so this kinda thing would maybe get a few lines in a local newspaper.
Maps are ok but then again, some B-route towards some destination maybe be a decent road with no problems for HGV’s but then again it might be one lane and unpassable. All look the same on a map.
Yep I would agree. I have been in some narrow scrapes in the past and I drove artics before sat nav existed. I do find that if you programme the shortest route then this is likely to get even a car into trouble. Avoid the shortest route and it tends to keep you on the major roads ect. The problems can start if you miss a direction and the nav starts recalculating.This can then lead to stuck.
The one I use is an garmin i3 which only cost £99 3 years ago. If you put it on truck mode it takes you a different route than car mode. Mostly dual C/ M/way and A roads. Put it on car mode and your down ’ the laneof death’
One problem you might find with going by satnav to some Tesco stores is that with some stores the Backdoor/ unloading area is nowhere near the store front door/ car park. and some i can think of you would have problems if you turned up in the front customer car park towing a 13m trailer…
alfamale66:
One problem you might find with going by satnav to some Tesco stores is that with some stores the Backdoor/ unloading area is nowhere near the store front door/ car park. and some i can think of you would have problems if you turned up in the front customer car park towing a 13m trailer…
I see plenty of this at the local Sainburys. Some come into the car park and they get stuck. This may be down to lack of common sense. When I drove years ago I would pull up park somewhere close and ask ,or go into the supermaket and ask for directions to the unloading area.
I did this so I would not get my self in a silly predicament.
chippy:
Thats what I mean . If the maps have errors ect , whats the use in giving you them. You would of thought that someone with Tesco’s clout could organise this. So according to Tesco the sat nav could send you onto a housing estate. Then what about the maps misleading information?. Would this not cause similar problems?Think I will use the sat nav and forget the drawings until I can see the store.
The point is that if the maps do have errors and do send you onto a housing estate this is the way that the company has told you to go 
Stan
Stanley Knife:
chippy:
Thats what I mean . If the maps have errors ect , whats the use in giving you them. You would of thought that someone with Tesco’s clout could organise this. So according to Tesco the sat nav could send you onto a housing estate. Then what about the maps misleading information?. Would this not cause similar problems?Think I will use the sat nav and forget the drawings until I can see the store.
The point is that if the maps do have errors and do send you onto a housing estate this is the way that the company has told you to go
Stan
So they are well ■■■■■■ if something happens then. After all you are only following their directive. No wonder VOSA keep an eye on them. Should it not be the case that the driver decides which way he should go not the company?
After all it is the drivers responsibility. If the route is pre determined by the company and that route is not correct then the person who devised the route would be in ■■■■ street? Possibly. Following a pre determined route is nonesense.How much do these people get paid?
truckermarcus:
how the hell did we manage before satnav?? common sense, a map and learning from mistakes!! they should turn off the signal from the satellites for a week to teach em a thing or two!!
Before sat-nav we drove and read the maps at the same time. That was fine when i was young, but now that i’m the same age as most drivers (50) i need specs to read. Plus, i work nights, which makes it a bit dark for map reading.
So, without sat-nav, if i want a quick check of the map its specs on and light on. Then its specs off and light off and hope my eyes don’t take too long to adjust. Thats another thing about getting old, your eyes take longer to adjust.
And anyway, what do you mean by “a map”. If you’re trucking, you need loads of them. Check this pic out:
Its a crate of maps belonging to a Stobby driver. My Tom Tom there has every road in Europe. That crate doesn’t have every road in England, and what’s more, in an accident it will be a bloody liability.
PS Sorry about the size of the pic, it hasn’t come out that big on other forums i’ve posted it on. 
I’ve resized the pic for you 
640x 480 is much better than 1600x1200 …Denis F
Stanley Mitchell:
A lot of these RAs are written up by managers who don`t drive trucks,
aint that the truth? 
renfrew
dont bother looking for a phone box to turn left at. go to the end and turn left. then turn left at the fire station. far easier than trying to follow their drivel
kilmarnock 2
its wrong. it says drive up the side of the shop. if you do that you are then reversing out blindside into one way traffic coming from the car park. its a dead end! 
blairgowrie
kicking out time on a saturday night is not the best time to squeeze around the town centre (as i found out myself). forget the A93, use the A94. its a better road and it avoids the town centre
if you know a better way, go that way. i never follow their directions to the ■■■■■■■■■■■ shop. single carriageway, roundabouts etc etc etc. far easier to use the motorway network. taking the ■■■■■■■■■■■ turn off from the A80 (at the 50MPH limit) takes you straight to the shop. literally! come off, follow it to the first roundabout and the shop is right there on the 3rd exit. why anyone would use M8 j6 and cut across the A73 is beyond me 
i used to work for tesco and you are given all the routes and risk assesments for the store your going to also it even shows you whare to drive in the yards at the site by arrows.as for using a satnav you as a driver should instantly know where you have gone wrong
ie; the road is far too small for the truck come on guys dont be thick!!
you wouldnt try and drive your car into a cardboard box now would ya?
durrantlee:
i used to work for tesco and you are given all the routes and risk assesments for the store your going to also it even shows you whare to drive in the yards at the site by arrows.as for using a satnav you as a driver should instantly know where you have gone wrong
ie; the road is far too small for the truck come on guys dont be thick!!
you wouldnt try and drive your car into a cardboard box now would ya?
I think you’re talking complete cobblers. As i say, every map i have been given has been wrong. the so called ‘risk assesments’ are virtually identical on every map, irrespective of the store. if changes have been made to the store, they haven’t changed the map.
And what if the road i go down isn’t too narrow? What if its even wider?
i dissagree i have never had a problem with the maps they supply and as for the risk assesments all the wording is the same granted but i think they were always handy to have
co i work for del direct to tesco stores,no company maps,i dont hav sat nav,its common sense when u see the store as to where the backdoor is.plus,whichever town you go,gteed anyone you ask will know where the tescos is!if access/turning rnd is a problem due to cages etc,you sit there till they are moved!as for stobarts pushin in…the tescos dont bother,its the general haulage who are pushed…discretion to let em in,or wait their turn is yours! 
Are these maps for the whole route or just the last mile or so?
Again I ask is the driver allowed to deviate his/her route as appropiate depending on local knowledge ect?.
It seems ridiculous to follow a route which may not be beneficial to the drivers own plan of how to get there. I would of thought the driver is responsible for his/her own discretion on route preference as this is how truckers have worked for years.
chippy:
Are these maps for the whole route or just the last mile or so?Again I ask is the driver allowed to deviate his/her route as appropiate depending on local knowledge ect?.
It seems ridiculous to follow a route which may not be beneficial to the drivers own plan of how to get there. I would of thought the driver is responsible for his/her own discretion on route preference as this is how truckers have worked for years.
Your paid by the hour, WHY try to be clever
I know a couple of stores, where the “map” takes you the long way round, but, It ain`t my derv or wage bill, HAPPY DAYS 
PLUS, and its a BIG plus, if you do have a problem, and your “off route”, how do you expect to come out of it smelling of roses 
Hi Stanley( my middle name). A few questions
What sort of trucks do tesco use and are they auto?
How much pulling and shoving trolleys do you have to do?
Do they send you into tesco xpress?
Do you work out of Fradley and is it any good?
Thanks for your advice. I intend to take the long way round if I do it?
I would prefer containers though or distance work ie nights out ect as this is what I did before.
chippy:
Hi Stanley( my middle name). A few questionsWhat sort of trucks do tesco use and are they auto?
How much pulling and shoving trolleys do you have to do?
Do they send you into tesco xpress?
Do you work out of Fradley and is it any good?
Thanks for your advice. I intend to take the long way round if I do it?
I would prefer containers though or distance work ie nights out ect as this is what I did before.
Chippy,
1 ; Merc Axor, in the manual mode, there fit for purpose IMO.
2 ; 100%, keeps you fit though
3 ; Yes, and up to 3 at a time, but, TBF, I ain`t done any for ages 
4 ; Yes + Yes, I like it, but, I havent been in for a couple of weeks, there a bit Q.T., so im told. 
As ive said before, just go with the flow, keep your head down, mouth shut, follow the rules, and its like BINGO, you win some, you lose some, BUT, unlike bingo, youre getting paid
truckermarcus:
how the hell did we manage before satnav?? common sense, a map and learning from mistakes!! they should turn off the signal from the satellites for a week to teach em a thing or two!!
So whats wrong with using an electronic map instead of a paper map? Thats basically what a sat nav is…an electronic map.
They are perfectly fine if you use them in conjunction whith the mk1 eyeball